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Don't understand Array creation syntax
by Franklin Mike June 14, 2016

June 14, 2016

Why the first element of #( ( 1 + 2 ) . 3 ) is #(1 #+ 2) and not #'('. Thanks!!

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[Raspberry Pi] Accessing GPIO pins on Raspberry Pi?
by sergio ruiz June 14, 2016

June 14, 2016

Does anyone know if itâs possible to access the header on Raspberry Pi vi Pharo? I am mostly interested in running a 16x2 LCD from pharo at this point. Thanks! ---- peace, sergio photographer, journalist, visionary #BitMessage BM-NBaswViL21xqgg9STRJjaJaUoyiNe2dV http://www.Village-Buzz.com http://www.ThoseOptimizeGuys.com http://www.CodingForHire.com http://www.coffee-black.com http://www.painlessfrugality.com http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101 http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

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OSProcess command with german umlaut does not work
by Sabine Manaa June 13, 2016

June 13, 2016

Hi, on command line, this works, my file is copied: cp /Library/WebServer/Documents/reports/bÃ¤r.pdf /Library/WebServer/Documents/reports/test.pdf In Pharo (4+5) this does not work (file not copied, no error message) OSProcess command: 'cp /Library/WebServer/Documents/reports/bÃ¤r.pdf /Library/WebServer/Documents/reports/test-a.pdf'. This works (file is copied): OSProcess command: 'cp /Library/WebServer/Documents/reports/bar.pdf /Library/WebServer/Documents/reports/test-b.pdf'. Seems that german umlauts don't work. Is there something, I can I do, I don't want to replace the umlauts in filenames... Regards Sabine -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/OSProcess-command-with-german-umlaut-does-not-work-tp… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Pharo Mooc after the 19th of june
by Johan Fabry June 13, 2016

June 13, 2016

Hi all, a question about the Mooc: I have some people that may want to take it, but this will be in July probably. Now the page of the Mooc says that inscriptions and classes end on the 19th of June. Will there be a new round of inscriptions afterwards or is there a different solution for these guys? -- Does this mail seem too brief? Sorry for that, I donât mean to be rude! Please see http://emailcharter.org . Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

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Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 5 accented chars bug/regression
by Peter UhnÃ¡k June 13, 2016

June 13, 2016

> > I thought stackoverflow.com might be a good place for that. I was > wrong. Having had my stackoverflow.com post attacked by aggressive > incompetent anonymous down voters who were interested in down voting but > possess no sense of humor or knowledge of Pharo or Smalltalk I think > I understand now that stackoverflow.com is overrated. I don't think a > site that actively encourages that kind of behavior deserves to benefit > from my fix in any way. I would need a whole bunch of sympathizers to > overturn the downvoting. I am not sure it is worth anybody's time. I understand now that mailing lists have several good qualities that > stackoverflow.com does not have: posts can not disappear. People can not > anonymously make you look bad even if they are incompetent in the subject > matter. Are you referring to the post titled "Pharo/Seaside for Windows: Cannot type Latin Ä, Ä, Ä or Russian Ð, Ð, Ð, Ð, Ð, Ð characters in Workspace/Playground or System Browser"? If so, then although it was (imho) a very nice bug report, it has no place on stackoverflow ; we have issue tracker for that https://pharo.fogbugz.com/ So my guess is that your post was downvoted because it didn't fit SO criteria for questions ( https://stackoverflow.com/help/on-topic ). Judging by your SO rep you seem quite new to the site, so you might not be familiar with how the site works (reviewing queues, what's on topic https://stackoverflow.com/help/on-topic , etc.) It is true that sometimes the questions are reviewed by people that have no knowledge of Pharo/Smalltalk, and then they will judge it on generic criteria, which sometimes results in incidents; however most of the time it seems to work rather well. So blasting SO because of a single incident, and calling people you don't know "incompetent" is certainly not the way to have a discussion, whether you are right or wrong. But I do not like places where anonymous bullying is actively encouraged. Downvoting is not bullying, it's there to help ensure that SO doesn't become garbage dumpâ¦ and there's a lot garbage incoming. I've reviewed almost thousand posts there and flagged almost half of them, and way too often the user clearly didn't even bother spending five minutes reading about the site and what's appropriate and what's not. With such constant flooding where literally every other question is garbage, I can see why people might be harsherâ¦ and not care about misflagging a small fraction of thatâ¦ in this context it's better to have a more uptight standard than to loosen it up. When you've asked/answered three questions, having one flagged is a lot and can be upsettingâ¦ it's third of all your work. If you have hundred(s) of questions you just shrug and move to the next one, because it's not worth to be upset over it. Is there anyone out there using Pharo 3, 4, 5 or 6 on Windows that would > benefit now from being able to type the characters Ä, Ä, Ä or Russian Ð, > Ð, Ð, Ð, Ð, Ð in Workspace/Playground and System Browser? > It's a bug and as such should be fixed. > I was so proud of myself. I thought I deserved some recognition. And I > still do. > I guess I would like to know how to get this fixed with my fix and get > some visibility in the process. If there is any interest. Explicitly asking for a recognition is going on a very thin ice. You see, I've myself invested a ton of time into Pharo over past two years, but I wouldn't even dream about asking for recognition, because there are people who invested hundred and thousandfold times more and yet I barely thank them myself. The latest release ( http://pharo.org/news/pharo-5.0-released ) has hundred contributorsâ¦ is it fair that the list has side-by-side people that invested maybe an hour into Pharo and next to him someone with thousands of hours? Visibility is not built by fixing a single issueâ¦ there are tens of fixes every single week, but by continuous and systematic investment. If and when people appreciate ones efforts is up to them. It certainly feels great when someone thanks you or appreciates your efforts, but it (to me) seems like a fragile ground to build your motivation upon. I contribute because I enjoy it, because I enjoy the system and I want to see it grow, because I want to learn and improve myself, and because I need the problems fixed for my workâ¦ and all of it is internal motivationâ¦ if noone thanks (which is the majority case for majority of bugs, because most people have no idea that a bug even existed or was fixed)â¦ then I don't care, because I had fun and I made the system better. I actually feel guilty that I do not contribute enough and that I merely reap the benefits of other people's work. But of course I can only speak for myself, and you may feel different about it. :) Peter On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 10:30 PM, Milan Vavra via Pharo-users < pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Milan Vavra <vavra_milan(a)yahoo.com> > To: pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org > Cc: > Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 12:50:27 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: Re: Pharo 5 accented chars bug/regression > I have debugged the issue and figured out how to fix it. I have seen > it as an opportunity to learn Pharo debugging and I did learn a few > tricks on the way. It took me 2 full days of debugging. > > It is a simple fix that works for all the Pharo versions on Windows > that have this problem. Including Pharo 6 without Nicolai's fix applied. > And it does not break any shortcuts as far as I can tell. > > I was so proud of myself. I thought I deserved some recognition. And I > still do. It is not that someone else could not do it. I am sure that > many people would be able to do that as well. But I did take the time > to do it. And it worked. I kind of would have liked to be able to point > to it and say "I fixed that". > > > > > Don't get me wrong. I'm ok with being told that I'm ugly or stupid > if I understand what it is that is disliked. But I do not like places > where anonymous bullying is actively encouraged. Hey I even got a 'Peer > Pressure' badge for deleting my down voted post. > > So much for context. > > > I understand that Nicolai is working on a fix of his own. The preliminary > version for future Pharo 6.0 shows promise. With it, it is possible to > type all the russian characters. Even with the fix it is not possible > to type the Latin 'Ä' but I guess that can be fixed too. > > Back to business: > > Is there anyone out there using Pharo 3, 4, 5 or 6 on Windows that would > benefit now from being able to type the characters Ä, Ä, Ä or Russian Ð, > Ð, Ð, Ð, Ð, Ð in Workspace/Playground and System Browser? > > I guess I would like to know how to get this fixed with my fix and get > some visibility in the process. If there is any interest. > > > Milan > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Pharo-5-accented-chars-bug-regression-tp4898863p49005… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > >

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Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 5 accented chars bug/regression
by Nicolai Hess June 12, 2016

June 12, 2016

2016-06-12 22:30 GMT+02:00 Milan Vavra via Pharo-users < pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org>: > > > ---------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht ---------- > From: Milan Vavra <vavra_milan(a)yahoo.com> > To: pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org > Cc: > Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 12:50:27 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: Re: Pharo 5 accented chars bug/regression > I have debugged the issue and figured out how to fix it. I have seen > it as an opportunity to learn Pharo debugging and I did learn a few > tricks on the way. It took me 2 full days of debugging. > > It is a simple fix that works for all the Pharo versions on Windows > that have this problem. Including Pharo 6 without Nicolai's fix applied. > And it does not break any shortcuts as far as I can tell. > > I was so proud of myself. I thought I deserved some recognition. And I > still do. It is not that someone else could not do it. I am sure that > many people would be able to do that as well. But I did take the time > to do it. And it worked. I kind of would have liked to be able to point > to it and say "I fixed that". > > I thought stackoverflow.com might be a good place for that. I was > wrong. Having had my stackoverflow.com post attacked by aggressive > incompetent anonymous down voters who were interested in down voting but > possess no sense of humor or knowledge of Pharo or Smalltalk I think > I understand now that stackoverflow.com is overrated. I don't think a > site that actively encourages that kind of behavior deserves to benefit > from my fix in any way. I would need a whole bunch of sympathizers to > overturn the downvoting. I am not sure it is worth anybody's time. > > I understand now that mailing lists have several good qualities that > stackoverflow.com does not have: posts can not disappear. People can not > anonymously make you look bad even if they are incompetent in the subject > matter. > > Don't get me wrong. I'm ok with being told that I'm ugly or stupid > if I understand what it is that is disliked. But I do not like places > where anonymous bullying is actively encouraged. Hey I even got a 'Peer > Pressure' badge for deleting my down voted post. > > So much for context. > > > I understand that Nicolai is working on a fix of his own. The preliminary > version for future Pharo 6.0 shows promise. With it, it is possible to > type all the russian characters. Even with the fix it is not possible > to type the Latin 'Ä' but I guess that can be fixed too. > > Back to business: > > Is there anyone out there using Pharo 3, 4, 5 or 6 on Windows that would > benefit now from being able to type the characters Ä, Ä, Ä or Russian Ð, > Ð, Ð, Ð, Ð, Ð in Workspace/Playground and System Browser? > > I guess I would like to know how to get this fixed with my fix and get > some visibility in the process. If there is any interest. > > > Hi Milan, there are different ways to fix this bug. One way is to clean up the keystroke handling - that is what I am working on. If you have a fix for an intermediate solution, feel free to submit your solution. (see http://pharo.org/contribute) best nicolai > Milan > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Pharo-5-accented-chars-bug-regression-tp4898863p49005… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > >

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Re: Pharo 5 accented chars bug/regression
by Milan Vavra June 12, 2016

June 12, 2016

I have debugged the issue and figured out how to fix it. I have seen it as an opportunity to learn Pharo debugging and I did learn a few tricks on the way. It took me 2 full days of debugging. It is a simple fix that works for all the Pharo versions on Windows that have this problem. Including Pharo 6 without Nicolai's fix applied. And it does not break any shortcuts as far as I can tell. I was so proud of myself. I thought I deserved some recognition. And I still do. It is not that someone else could not do it. I am sure that many people would be able to do that as well. But I did take the time to do it. And it worked. I kind of would have liked to be able to point to it and say "I fixed that". I thought stackoverflow.com might be a good place for that. I was wrong. Having had my stackoverflow.com post attacked by aggressive incompetent anonymous down voters who were interested in down voting but possess no sense of humor or knowledge of Pharo or Smalltalk I think I understand now that stackoverflow.com is overrated. I don't think a site that actively encourages that kind of behavior deserves to benefit from my fix in any way. I would need a whole bunch of sympathizers to overturn the downvoting. I am not sure it is worth anybody's time. I understand now that mailing lists have several good qualities that stackoverflow.com does not have: posts can not disappear. People can not anonymously make you look bad even if they are incompetent in the subject matter. Don't get me wrong. I'm ok with being told that I'm ugly or stupid if I understand what it is that is disliked. But I do not like places where anonymous bullying is actively encouraged. Hey I even got a 'Peer Pressure' badge for deleting my down voted post. So much for context. I understand that Nicolai is working on a fix of his own. The preliminary version for future Pharo 6.0 shows promise. With it, it is possible to type all the russian characters. Even with the fix it is not possible to type the Latin 'Ä' but I guess that can be fixed too. Back to business: Is there anyone out there using Pharo 3, 4, 5 or 6 on Windows that would benefit now from being able to type the characters Ä, Ä, Ä or Russian Ð, Ð, Ð, Ð, Ð, Ð in Workspace/Playground and System Browser? I guess I would like to know how to get this fixed with my fix and get some visibility in the process. If there is any interest. Milan -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-5-accented-chars-bug-regression-tp4898863p49005… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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[ANN] PBMAuthenticator
by Attila Magyar June 11, 2016

June 11, 2016

Hi, I made a library for an online 2 factor authentication service called PassBy[ME] <http://passbyme.net> . This a service that provides PKI based 2nd factor authentication (using smartphones) among other things like message sending and electronic signatures. The library lets you start new authentication sessions and send messages to the user's phone. For more info: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~zeroflag/PBMAuthenticator Attila -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-PBMAuthenticator-tp4900393.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Smalltalkhub Admin
by Pierce Ng June 11, 2016

June 11, 2016

Hi, Who is the Smalltalkhub admin, anyone knows? Pierce

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GTDebugger - sort stackTop to the top of the list, 2 variable lists
by PAUL DEBRUICKER June 11, 2016

June 11, 2016

Hi - How do I mold the debugger so the stackTop is at the top of the variable list? Also is there a way to have the two copies of the variable list shown next to each other where there is only one now? I find my self scrolling up and down to check changes in multiple spots which I think could be done if two were side by side. And then how do I persist those changes somewhere so every image I ever use has them when I start it? Thanks Paul

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