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Re: [Pharo-users] Gemstone as a service?
by Iwan Vosloo Aug. 20, 2018

Aug. 20, 2018

Hi Andy, On 18/08/2018 18:12, Andy Burnett wrote: > I was wondering if anyone offers GaaS? I would love to be able to just > focus on writing code, and leave the system management to others. > Gemstone does seem to offer a very complete package. We have one client for whom we are managing a fair number of GemStone servers and I am itching to do this "aaS". Being able to use the same for several clients would make it easier to spend more time and resources, hopefully making the offering better. I've been holding back on the idea though because I have no idea of knowing whether there is enough interest for something like this to make it financially viable. If people are interested, I'd also love to know what their requirements are: - how big are the systems they want to run ito the various machine resources and network resources needed? - how complicated the setup needs to be (we run a fairly simple setup, more flexible setups may be difficult to generalise)? - where to you prefer to locate servers physically, and do you require hot-standbys (perhaps in a different location)? - what do you require in terms of the process deploying new versions of your code to production? - ... or any other requirements? Regards Iwan --

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Re: [Pharo-users] Gemstone as a service?
by Iwan Vosloo Aug. 20, 2018

Aug. 20, 2018

Hi, On 18/08/2018 18:25, Tim Mackinnon wrote: > I was steered towards Digital Ocean which was really simple to setup and > very cheap. Although I think this is all heading towards kuberneties and > docker images as the end game. Although we are not using Docker and kubernetes currently, we've been eyeing them and hoping to grow in that direction too. Is there a problem with such an approach? Could it help if someone produced, say a set of usable docker containers for various gemstone bits? Regards Iwan --

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Re: [Pharo-users] Gemstone as a service?
by Andy Burnett Aug. 20, 2018

Aug. 20, 2018

James wrote: <<< Will you be coming to ESUG? Perhaps we could discuss this in more detail after my talk on Wednesday at 12:30 (https://esug.github.io/2018- Conference/conf2018.html <https://esug.github.io/2018- Conference/conf2018.html>). >>> Unfortunately not, so I will have to wait for the slides, and video. However, this does sound encouraging. Might GemTalk get into the business of offering GaaS? Perhaps through Heroku or similar. Cheers Andy

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Where (as in Git project) should Calypso browser source code commands live?
by Tim Mackinnon Aug. 19, 2018

Aug. 19, 2018

Hi - Iâve had a few changes lined up to try and help P7 be a little more IntelliJ like. But Iâm not sure what package my small extensions should live in? I used SycRenameTempCommand as an example - but it lives in a package called "SystemCommands-SourceCodeCommandsâ - however I canât see where that package is git versioned as when I browse the Pharo working copy, it doesnât appear. Is this some low level piece that hasnât been moved into git yet? My commands are - ExtendSelection (a keypress to intelligently widen the selection of selected code to aid refactoring or moving code around), and JumpToNextKeyword - a keystroke to intelligently jump you to where you can enter a code completed keyboard or block variable etc. This got me thinking - about where these should live - are they in the Calypso project - and would l do a PR there - or are they in Pharo and I create a PR there? Suggestions? Tim

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RubShoutStylerDecorator doesnotunderstand: #move:for:controller:
by Jeff Gray Aug. 19, 2018

Aug. 19, 2018

Hi all, I was debugging my seaside application yesterday. I saved and closed the image. Then when I opened Pharo tonight I got the RubShoutStylerDecorator error. If I close the error window another one immediately pops up. Any idea what I can do? -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

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Working with an entire project in git
by sergio ruiz Aug. 18, 2018

Aug. 18, 2018

Hey, all.. I was just checking in to see the progress of managing an entire project with git. The last I checked in, this was a work in progress. My current pet project consists of a handful of classes with maybe two handfuls of required packages. Is the entire metacello configuration being handled on github yet? I would like to work this into my workflow so that I can do something like: - Grab a fresh Pharo - Pharo.image ../scripts/setup-client-application.st where the setup script just grabs the Configuration and loads and starts a fresh project. Thanks! ---- peace, sergio photographer, journalist, visionary Public Key: http://bit.ly/29z9fG0 #BitMessage BM-NBaswViL21xqgg9STRJjaJaUoyiNe2dV http://www.codeandmusic.com http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101 http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

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Re: [Pharo-users] [Moose-dev] feenk log
by Tudor Girba Aug. 17, 2018

Aug. 17, 2018

Hi, Bindings is an issue indeed. They are at the same level as theming and we are not at that level yet. At present time we are focused on showing the breadth of what we can achieve with the new infrastructure. We are currently using only the Bloc keybinding mechanism (equivalent to Keymapping). We did explore the use of Commander, but it was not a match for our initial work. This does not mean that itâs not a good library. Just that we are still exploring and still need to learn what we need. Our focus is on an infrastructure for actions that is as close as possible to Bloc, and to figure out which parts need to go at which level of abstraction. Cheers, Doru > On Aug 17, 2018, at 5:14 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > Hi Doru > > this is great. We are brainstorming to see if and how Commander should be tuned to offer a smoother extensibility. > Julien was developing commands for all his spec tools and guille used commander for Iceberg. > We plan to have a meeting brainstorming about commands and context when guille is back from vacation (before > ESUG). On your side what did you use for the key binding? > > I would like to able to have pluggable binding so that we can have emacs like ctrl a / ctrle â¦ > > Stef > >> On 17 Aug 2018, at 06:47, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> We again got carried away and forgot to update the world about what is up in our corner. Here is a summary: >> >> -- >> Bloc & Brick >> -- >> >> - Text editor stability has been significantly improved >> - Improved support for selection in the text editor >> - Support for typical editing keybindings (copy, cut, paste) >> - Text editor debuggability: >> https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1024680215379959808 >> https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1020768298017992704 >> - The text editor can handle emojis: >> https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1021872214151507968 >> >> -- >> GT >> -- >> >> - Inspector >> We now have an initial version of a working inspector with resizable panes: >> https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1030091849795612672 >> https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1030314856736538624 >> It shows a display string for the current object: >> https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1024564065870512129 >> It can handle errors in the definition of views gracefully: >> https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1009174937217720320 >> We now have multiple extensions expressed in the new Inspector: >> https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1024321868566814720 >> https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1022393383850008576 >> >> - Documenter saw multiple enhancements. >> We can now resize various previews live: >> https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1002851190475026432 >> https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1001407762285375490 >> https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1001152789874167808 >> It now relies on the annotation mechanism from Pillar: >> https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1006508725409079298 >> We can now link classes and expand their definition: >> https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1014609460520775681 >> https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1029085603948843008 >> The preview of examples can handle errors gracefully: >> https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1022123808524836864 >> We can run examples in place, enabling a smoother tutorial experience: >> https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1028390957023223809 >> We have new documentation expressed in it: >> https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1007008814204444672 >> >> >> >> Have fun, >> The feenk team >> >> -- >> www.feenk.com >> >> "Presenting is storytelling." >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)list.inf.unibe.ch >> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev > > -------------------------------------------- > StÃ©phane Ducasse > http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr > http://www.synectique.eu / http://www.pharo.org > 03 59 35 87 52 > Assistant: Julie Jonas > FAX 03 59 57 78 50 > TEL 03 59 35 86 16 > S. Ducasse - Inria > 40, avenue Halley, > Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, BÃ¢t.A, Park Plaza > Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 > France > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)list.inf.unibe.ch > https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.feenk.com "Yesterday is a fact. Tomorrow is a possibility. Today is a challenge."

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feenk log
by Tudor Girba Aug. 17, 2018

Aug. 17, 2018

Hi, We again got carried away and forgot to update the world about what is up in our corner. Here is a summary: -- Bloc & Brick -- - Text editor stability has been significantly improved - Improved support for selection in the text editor - Support for typical editing keybindings (copy, cut, paste) - Text editor debuggability: https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1024680215379959808 https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1020768298017992704 - The text editor can handle emojis: https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1021872214151507968 -- GT -- - Inspector We now have an initial version of a working inspector with resizable panes: https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1030091849795612672 https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1030314856736538624 It shows a display string for the current object: https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1024564065870512129 It can handle errors in the definition of views gracefully: https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1009174937217720320 We now have multiple extensions expressed in the new Inspector: https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1024321868566814720 https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1022393383850008576 - Documenter saw multiple enhancements. We can now resize various previews live: https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1002851190475026432 https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1001407762285375490 https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1001152789874167808 It now relies on the annotation mechanism from Pillar: https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1006508725409079298 We can now link classes and expand their definition: https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1014609460520775681 https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1029085603948843008 The preview of examples can handle errors gracefully: https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1022123808524836864 We can run examples in place, enabling a smoother tutorial experience: https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1028390957023223809 We have new documentation expressed in it: https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/1007008814204444672 Have fun, The feenk team -- www.feenk.com "Presenting is storytelling."

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Trait method override
by Vitor Medina Cruz Aug. 17, 2018

Aug. 17, 2018

Hello, In a class that uses a Trait, how can I override one of it's method by appending behavior to the method implemented by the Trait? In a typical override, this is done by calling super: method super method "extended behavior" ... Is there a way to change "super" to a reference the Trait? Regards, Vitor

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Is the debugger known to be unstable on recent Pharo 7?
by Tim Mackinnon Aug. 17, 2018

Aug. 17, 2018

Hi, Iâm doing some travelling and had a stretch on a plane with Pharo 7 - 64bit b166, and was trying out some changes to Calypso to plug in some potential keyboard extensions. Anyway, in figuring stuff out I noticed the debugger had a number of issues - which I can try to investigate more but wanted to say something before ploughing on. When I hit a method invoked from the keyboard which has self halt (not a soft breakpoint, as I was changing code and didnât want to keep losing the breakpoint) - when I made a change and hit save I get an extra empty predebug window ? The older debug window also has a my single method but no stack and is not debuggable. The upshot is that I have to start debugging all over again? I also noticed that when I hit an error and got a debugger and then fixed the error, resumed but then hit another - the title of the window was still the old error msg and not the new one (so quite confusing). Has there been recent work done in the debugger that might explain these? Tim Sent from my iPhone

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