January 2015 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

The SRP Has Moved
by horrido Jan. 23, 2015

Jan. 23, 2015

By now, every Smalltalker and his dog have heard about the Smalltalk Renaissance Program. So it is no longer necessary to stay in the Pharo forum. I have moved all future SRP-related discussions to the /English/ forum at forum.world.st. I ask everyone who is even remotely interested in the campaign to join the English forum (aka Smalltalk Research <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/smalltalk-research> ). I remind everyone that the SRP is about you and your community. Without you, there is no campaign. Please participate. Thank you. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/The-SRP-Has-Moved-tp4801141.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Glorp on Pharo 4
by Craig Jan. 22, 2015

Jan. 22, 2015

Hi All, I see that Sven is active on this list. I've tried to use his excellent tutorial on his "concerning-pharo" blog to understand Glorp and to get my own instance of the demo app running on Pharo 4 and Postgres. I have not burnt a lot of time on this yet, but I would like to know if this combination of technologies is known to work anywhere. I have not yet got it working. Craig

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Essays
by horrido Jan. 22, 2015

Jan. 22, 2015

We have a couple of essays published at Smalltalk renaissance <https://smalltalkrenaissance.wordpress.com/category/essays/> . *We need more.* This is our opportunity to answer the questions, concerns, and criticisms of non-Smalltalk developers, an opportunity afforded by the SRP, which is drawing much new attention to Smalltalk. We should exploit this opportunity and not waste it. Suggested essay topics include: - talk about actual use of Smalltalk in the enterprise - expand on the much-touted productivity advantage of Smalltalk (many people are skeptical) - explain how the experience of using the Smalltalk environment is superior to that of Eclipse, IntelliJ, Visual Studio, etc. - talk about future developments in Smalltalk, eg, concurrency features, new IDEs, new tooling, etc. - any other topics you may deem noteworthy So, please, contribute an essay. /Without you, there is no campaign./ Send all submissions to my personal email: horrido.hobbies at gmail dot com. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Essays-tp4800394.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Re: [Pharo-users] Mea Culpa
by Joachim Tuchel Jan. 22, 2015

Jan. 22, 2015

I don't think there is a need for new lists. We've had comp.lang.smalltalk.advocacy and comp.lang.smalltalk. Currently we leave them to the spammers, and trolls, which is a bad sign for outsiders. Always moving somewhere new and leave old trash around doesn't improve anything, does it? Joachim Am 22.01.2015 13:41 schrieb Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com>: > > Hey Richard, > > I believe the only alive cross-dialect space is the #smalltalk IRC channel in FreeNode. There's an average of 25~30 people online in that channel, which is not _too_ bad considering the size of our community. Still, compare that to, say, #lisp, with ~400 users and also being a cross-dialect channel. > > Smalltalkers feel quite strong about their particular dialect. I'm not criticizing this behavior, I'm just stating facts. I also have strong feelings for "my dialects" and I don't think this is necessarily bad. > > However, there are some "de-facto" meeting points for all Smalltalks, like http://world.st. Even though there is no mailing list that joins all of us together, this space does feature a homogenized list of all forums (http://forum.world.st/) Planet Smalltalk (http://planet.smalltalk.org/) is another great one for those of us who use RSS feeds. > > Indeed, it could take quite a while before a generic Smalltalk list was populated enough, but these two efforts show there might be an interest. > > Cheers, > Bernat. > > 2015-01-22 9:11 GMT+01:00 Martin BÃ¤hr <mbaehr(a)email.archlab.tuwien.ac.at>: >> >> Excerpts from kilon alios's message of 2015-01-22 08:13:57 +0100: >> > Popularity indeed comes with a high price. Guido the creator of python he >> > has said in one of his presentation that there many people who want to add >> > their libraries to python distribution but they should not want to do that, >> > because once a library is added it become very difficult to change since so >> > many people depend on it to keep backward compatibility. He claimed that >> > even simple bug fixes have to go through lengthy review process. This can >> > be expanded to the entirety of the IDE and the language. >> > >> > This the most important reason why pharo has been moving forward so fast >> > and why popular languages move at glacial speed. >> > I dont want to lose that so yes I dont want for pharo to become popular. >> >> squeak already hast that 'problem' i believe and pharo is actively working to >> counteract it by removing less important things. so i doubt pharo will suffer >> from the pressure to fill it up with new packages any time soon. >> >> in this case it may be a win for all because those who want backwards >> compatibility can choose squeak, and those who want fast paced action may use >> pharo. >> >> also craig with context is working on minimizing the images which i believe >> should help to move more and more things out of the core, allowing you to pull >> them back in, making it possible to choose from various versions, based on your >> compatibility needs. >> >> ironically, i actually expect to want backwards compatibility in the future. >> but backwards to now, not to a decade ago, so i hope pharo development will >> eventually slow down somewhat. >> >> in addition, the multiple smalltalk implementations also act as a stabilizing >> factor, because people will want to write code that runs on all of them. >> (seaside for example) so pharo can't go that far out of line and make itself >> completely incompatible. >> >> i am also not sure which is better. a large standard library makes for a more stable system. >> having lots of important 3rd party libraries can lead to dependency issues... >> >> greetings, martin. >> >> -- >> eKitaÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â -Â Â the online platform for your entire academic life >> -- >> chief engineerÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â eKita.co >> pike programmerÂ Â Â pike.lysator.liu.seÂ Â caudium.netÂ Â Â societyserver.org >> secretaryÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â beijinglug.org >> mentorÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â fossasia.org >> foresight developerÂ foresightlinux.orgÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â realss.com >> unix sysadmin >> Martin BÃ¤hrÂ Â Â Â Â working in chinaÂ Â Â Â http://societyserver.org/mbaehr/ >> > > > > -- > Bernat Romagosa.

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Re: [Pharo-users] could not find display
by Lozenguez Guillaume Jan. 22, 2015

Jan. 22, 2015

Hi, Finally it's working normally this morning. I suppose that a simple reboot has actualized the environment variables. So, I'm ready to start the tutorial now... Guillaume L. Afin de contribuer au respect de l'environnement, merci de n'imprimer ce courriel qu'en cas de necessite Please consider the environment before you print

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The Smalltalk Revolution is still going!
by horrido Jan. 22, 2015

Jan. 22, 2015

My article "The Smalltalk Revolution" is a frickin' Energizer Bunny! It just keeps going and going and going... At this moment, it has surpassed 15K views and 8.1K reads. Instead of petering out, *as it appeared to be doing earlier this week*, it seems to be growing again! /I wonder what's going on??/ -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/The-Smalltalk-Revolution-is-still-going-tp4800873.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Centering a Label with Spec
by Piotr Klibert Jan. 21, 2015

Jan. 21, 2015

Hello, I started playing with Spec recently and I generally get good results out of its documentation and a couple of tutorials. However, yesterday I encountered a problem I didn't see mentioned anywhere. Let's say I have a window looking exactly like this one: http://www.bahmanm.com/images/greeter-version-1.png/image The "Hello, Bahman!" label is left-aligned. I'd like it to be centered horizontally. How do I do this? I tried inspecting a Button below - which has its label centered - and discovered AlignmentMorph, but didn't get the time to try to use it. And anyway, I shouldn't need to use Morphic for a thing like this, right? Best regards, Piotr Klibert

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CommandLine handler and UTF8 path
by Hilaire Jan. 21, 2015

Jan. 21, 2015

Hi, I have discovered a problem with my DrGeo command line handler. Its purpose, under linux only for now, is to let the user open a DrGeo sketch file from the desktop file manager by double-clicking on the file. Sadly, it seems it does not work when non ascii characters are present in the path or the filename. The command line handler parameters are correctly set form the bash script, I got this output: drgeo --sketch=/home/hilaire/Axe-SymÃ©trie/axes de symÃ©trie.fgeo But once in Pharo, the string representing the path to the file is wrongly interpreted, I have this error from Pharo: Error: /home/hilaire/Axe-SymÃÂ©trie/axes de symÃÂ©trie.fgeo does not exist! >From the DrGeo.sh startup script, Pharo is fired with this instruction: exec "$VM/pharo" \ --plugins "$VM" \ --encoding utf-8 \ -vm-display-X11 \ -title "Dr.Geo" \ $image \ $DRGEO_OPT"$filename" Opening this same file directly form DrGeo works correctly. Any idea? Thanks Hilaire -- Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu iStoa - http://istoa.drgeo.eu

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Spec: how to add borders
by Mark Rizun Jan. 21, 2015

Jan. 21, 2015

Hi, I want to have a border around, for example, two TextModel(s) and one ButtonModel. Is it possible to do just with Spec or I have to do it some other way? Best regards, Mark -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Spec-how-to-add-borders-tp4800778.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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[ANN] Pharo Consortium New Academic Partner: DCyT - Universdad Nacional de Quilmes
by Marcus Denker Jan. 21, 2015

Jan. 21, 2015

The Pharo Consortium is very happy to announce that the DCyT - Universdad Nacional de Quilmes has joined the Consortium as an Academic Partner. About - DCyT - Universdad Nacional de Quilmes: http://www.unq.edu.ar <http://www.unq.edu.ar/> - Pharo Consortium: http://consortium.pharo.org <http://consortium.pharo.org/> The goal of the Pharo Consortium is to allow companies and institutions to support the ongoing development and future of Pharo. Individuals can support Pharo via the Pharo Association: http://association.pharo.org <http://association.pharo.org/>

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