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Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] Need someone to lead Fix of the Day contest [WAS] Re: Need help with 1.3 Full Image
by Marcus Denker May 15, 2011

May 15, 2011

On May 15, 2011, at 12:17 AM, Pat Maddox wrote: > On May 14, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> >> On May 14, 2011, at 8:54 PM, Pat Maddox wrote: >>> >>> That would be awesome! I was looking at the bug tracker (http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list#) yesterday to see if there were things that I could help with...but even when looking at "open" issues, many of them are several years old, and have a state of "Accepted." So as someone not actively involved in pharo development, I have absolutely no clue what actually needs to be fixed. >>> >>> I'd like to help, the bug tracker doesn't give me much guidance (or at least I'd benefit from an explanation of how it's structured), and so guidance from someone who's active would be really helpful. >>> >> So the best thing is to just do exactly that: Write that it's unclear what needs to be done. >> >> Every Issue on the tracker should have a clear "next action needed to be done to move this forward" defined. I not, than the next action is to define the next action. > > So what's the deal with these 261 Accepted tickets? Have they been fixed and committed to Pharo? No. Everything not shown has been dealt with. (3792 Issues to date). All the ones shown (435) require action. Some of that action might "this has already been fixed" "this is not a good idea"... > or have they simply been acknowledged as a problem? > The states "new" and "accepted" are not really well used right now... one problem is thart issues created by developers are automatically "Accepted", so it's not much of a guidance. > When viewing open tickets, here are the statuses I see: > * Accepted > * Comment > * FixProposed > * FixedWaitingToBePharoed > * New > * Started We should change that... maybe we should have a more "next action" based system. "NextActionNeeded" "SourceNeeded" "CodeReviewNeeded" .... -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

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Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] Need someone to lead Fix of the Day contest [WAS] Re: Need help with 1.3 Full Image
by Marcus Denker May 15, 2011

May 15, 2011

On May 14, 2011, at 8:54 PM, Pat Maddox wrote: > > That would be awesome! I was looking at the bug tracker (http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list#) yesterday to see if there were things that I could help with...but even when looking at "open" issues, many of them are several years old, and have a state of "Accepted." So as someone not actively involved in pharo development, I have absolutely no clue what actually needs to be fixed. > > I'd like to help, the bug tracker doesn't give me much guidance (or at least I'd benefit from an explanation of how it's structured), and so guidance from someone who's active would be really helpful. > So the best thing is to just do exactly that: Write that it's unclear what needs to be done. Every Issue on the tracker should have a clear "next action needed to be done to move this forward" defined. I not, than the next action is to define the next action. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

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We are still small, don't worry
by Mariano Martinez Peck May 14, 2011

May 14, 2011

Taking the latest PharoCore 1.3 and doing "ScriptLoader new cleanUpForProduction" (mostly cleanUps and tests removal ) Gives me a 6.9 MB image. So we are quite good. Cheers -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

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[COTDC] 63 - MimeConverter
by laurent laffont May 13, 2011

May 13, 2011

Today: MimeConverter Comment Of The Day Contest - One Day One Comment Rules: #1: Each day a not commented class is elected. Each day the best comment will be integrated with name of the author(s). #2: If you cannot comment it, deprecate it. Results: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/CommentOfTheDayContest Laurent

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[COTDC] 62 - MIMEType
by laurent laffont May 13, 2011

May 13, 2011

Today: MIMEType Comment Of The Day Contest - One Day One Comment Rules: #1: Each day a not commented class is elected. Each day the best comment will be integrated with name of the author(s). #2: If you cannot comment it, deprecate it. Results: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/CommentOfTheDayContest Laurent

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Re: [Pharo-users] [COTDC] 61 - InternetConfiguration
by Marcus Denker May 12, 2011

May 12, 2011

On May 12, 2011, at 3:41 PM, laurent laffont wrote: > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 8:34 PM, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Today: InternetConfiguration > > I read several parameters related to the OS network preferences, through the InternetConfigPlugin VM module. > > For example, to get the default path where downloaded files should be placed: > > InternetConfiguration getDownloadPath > > > (That said, it's not used in the image). > It is... it's in the startup list and setting the Proxy at SCG since years automatically. (it's only working on the Mac, though) Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

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Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharocasts] New comment on SandstoneDb, simple ActiveRecord style persistence....
by laurent laffont May 12, 2011

May 12, 2011

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Ramon Leon <ramon.leon(a)gmail.com> wrote: > My general approach would be this sequence of steps, let's assume his > class is called Person in collection var name people. > > If Person has an initialize method, rename it to initializeOld. > Change superclass of Person to SDActiveRecord. > Person warmUp. to setup the store for this new class. > people do: [:e | e initialize ] to invoke active records initialize > setting up it's necessary inst vars and marking all people as new > rename Person>>initializeOld back to Person>>initialize. > people do: [:e | e save ] > > Migration complete. > > Thanks a lot Ramon, I add this to Pharocasts. Laurent > -- > Ramon Leon > http://onsmalltalk.com > > > On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:58 AM, laurent laffont > <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Someone knows ? > > Laurent > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Bernat Romagosa <noreply-comment(a)blogger.com> > > Date: Wed, May 4, 2011 at 1:37 PM > > Subject: [Pharocasts] New comment on SandstoneDb, simple ActiveRecord > style > > persistence.... > > To: laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com > > > > > > Bernat Romagosa has left a new comment on your post "SandstoneDb, simple > > ActiveRecord style persistence...": > > > > I was trying to migrate a simple image-based persistence app into > Sandstone, > > so I just recompiled my biz objects to be subclasses of SDActiveRecord, > but > > of course the objects I want to save are already created and "floating" > in > > the image, so when I try to save them I get an error as many instvars > > haven't been initialized upon creating these objects (as they were > already > > there). > > > > Is there a way to automatically do this? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Bernat. > > > > > > > > Posted by Bernat Romagosa to Pharocasts at May 4, 2011 4:37 AM > > >

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Call for ideas for DBXTalk UI
by Mariano Martinez Peck May 12, 2011

May 12, 2011

Hi guys. Thanks to the ESUG SummerTalk, DBXTalk team has started to work with the new products of the DBXTalk suite. However, for one of the tools in special we would like to hear your opinion. Just a little introduction to the two other tools: 1) A new Glorp port from VW to Pharo. In addition, we provide the DBX driver for Glorp, by the name of GlorpDBX. Guillermo Polito is mostly working on this. 2) A new tool that uses Magritte and the database metadata to automatically generate the mappings between objects and tables. The idea is to do it two-way: a) read the metadata from an existing database -> create magritte descriptions -> generate Glorp mappings -> query with Glorp b) write magritte descriptions for the mappings -> generate database schema -> generate Glorp mappings -> query with Glorp or something like that....it is not completely decided but that's the idea. This way we can autogenerate the Glorp mappings and then use Glorp normally. Santiago Bragagnolo is working mostly on this. The third product, and here the question, is going to be a UI for the DBXTalk suite. This UI would do the core functionalities of tools like SQLDeveloper, MySQL Explorer, pgAdmin, etc. This is basically: - visualize and get information of: tables, views, schemas, relations, indexes, etc. - be able to modify the previous items and impact them in the database - write queries and get results So...why this tool if we can also use external tools like SQLDeveloper, MySQL Explorer, pgAdmin, etc ? a couple of reasons: 1) having the tool inside the image is easier (just the same way you sometimes install an Eclipse plugin instead of using such programs) 2) the same tool works for all databases 3) we can customize it with particular things of DBX Gisela Decuzzi is working mostly on this. Now....what use cases do you think are useful for such UI ? what kind of things would you like ? what things we can do that are related to Glorp and to the magritte tool? what things can we do to have even more advantages than just using external programs ? I have the following things in mind: - Special console for DBX/Glorp logs. - Be able to edit Magritte description for mappings. - Sync the tables and mapping while edditing. - A new inspector for inspecting restultsets, where you see one rows and columns. Let us know. Once again, thanks ESUG for the sponsorship to the team. Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

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image uptime
by Francois Stephany May 12, 2011

May 12, 2011

Hi, Is there a way to know for how long an image is running (i.e., when the VM started it)? Cheers, Francois

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Re: [Pharo-users] [Esug-list] moose = smalltalk ambassador
by Tudor Girba May 11, 2011

May 11, 2011

Hi Nial, On 11 May 2011, at 11:13, Niall Ross wrote: > Dear Tudor, > this is great; this kind of making the outside world aware of Smalltalk is just what we need. :) > Jazoon (http://jazoon.com) is before ESUG 2011 in Edinburgh. I hope you will take the opportunity while there to advertise us. I will try. Cheers, Doru > You can download the conference poster (high-resolution jpeg or pdf) from > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7726739/ESUG_Promo.jpg > or > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7726739/ESUG_Promo.pdf > and the conference flyers from > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7726739/ESUG_Postcard.pdf > and the website is > http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2011 > > I look forward to seeing the latest state of moose in Edinburgh. > Wishing you luck with your conferences > Niall Ross > > Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Moose (http://moosetechnology.org) is a Smalltalk ambassador. Actually, I think it's the best ambassador we have right now to persuade professional developers to look into Smalltalk. >> >> Let me tell you why. >> >> Moose is a platform for software and data analysis and includes components like: Glamour, Mondrian or PetitParser. Moose solves a real and important problem that developers (both Smalltalkers and non-Smalltalkers) have: how to improve the productivity of the effort spent on assessment. Moose is an innovation in this domain because it enables a completely different approach through which developers craft their own tools fast (http://humane-assessment.com) The cool thing is that they build these tools by programming Smalltalk in Pharo, and thus they get to learn the language and the platform first. >> >> Moose also comes with exposure. For example, this year I will be presenting Moose and humane assessment at some large industry oriented conferences: >> - Jazoon (http://jazoon.com) >> - GotoCon Aarhus (http://gotocon.com/aarhus-2011/) >> - GotoCon Amsterdam (http://gotocon.com/amsterdam-2011/) >> >> All in all, if you want to promote Smalltalk, and Pharo in particular, you might want to look into it. And you are always welcome to contribute, follow us and make noise: >> - http://www.moosetechnology.org >> - http://twitter.com/#!/moosetechnology >> - http://www.facebook.com/pages/moosetechnologyorg/152851281427491 >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "No matter how many recipes we know, we still value a chef." >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. >> For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> >> > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ -- www.tudorgirba.com "If you interrupt the barber while he is cutting your hair, you will end up with a messy haircut."

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