October 2010 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

funny idea Symbol vs. Selector
by stephane ducasse May 14, 2015

May 14, 2015

Hi guys I'm thinking aloud... I was wondering if we could not take advantage of a new class: Selector. MethodDict would only contain selectors and not symbols. I remember that I talked about that with hernan. Stef

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Help (perfect for newcomers) migrating a technical FAQ
by Mariano Martinez Peck April 9, 2011

April 9, 2011

Hi folks. I had a good idea and and it perfect for someone that wants to help and don't know how. It is not the most entertained task, but I promise you will learn a lot. Mostly, if you are newcomer. The idea is basically to migrate the FAQ that is here: http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/faq/pharofaq to a new section in the collaborative Pharo book: http://book.pharo-project.org/ So....any takers ? Let us know so that we generate a new user in the Book The idea is also to check whether what is says is still correct for pharo or if it needs an update. Or even how to improve it (from the view of a newcomer). Thanks Mariano

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could not search contents at http://book.pharo-project.org
by Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras Nov. 19, 2010

Nov. 19, 2010

Hi All, Description: Could not search contents at http://book.pharo-project.org. I would like to search some expression in the contents of the book. Steps to reproduce: * goto to http://book.pharo-project.org * click on main image * add any string on search contents and press Enter Actual Result: Seaside Walkback Error: subscript is out of bounds: 8218Expected Result: a list of results that matches your input string Thanks,

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Another Halo Question (complete newbie)
by James Ashley Nov. 3, 2010

Nov. 3, 2010

How-dee! I'm working my way through PBE (no, I've been too broke lately to buy a copy yet *blush*, but I will) and a few other smalltalk tutorials. I've read the documents about getting halos activated in the first place. I'm on linux, where alt-shift middle-click (I'm still trying to get the button colors down) generally works. In the lights out sample, it doesn't. I can ctrl-shift "left" click, get a giant menu, and select "Add Halo." That puts a halo around the individual cell. If I close it, it disappears and shows a blue background (which I'm starting to suspect is a default for morphics...is that close?). If I jump back through the "Add Halo" hoops on that background, or actually manage to click on the border, I just get what seems to be halos for the desktop (system? background? It's always frustrating to start learning a new system and not know the terminology...then again, that's part of the fun). I've been able to close the morphic by adding a "self owner delete" mouse down handler to the cells, then commenting it out until I need it. But it's more than a little painful. I spent about two hours today googling for variations on "morphics decorated frames", but the results I got suggested that I'm not even in the ballpark. I'm sorry if I missed an FAQ or didn't dig far enough back in the mailing list archives. Thanks in advance, James

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Re: [Pharo-users] Another Halo Question (complete newbie)
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Nov. 3, 2010

Nov. 3, 2010

On Oct 30, 2010, at 3:04 AM, James Ashley wrote: > How-dee! > > I'm working my way through PBE (no, I've been too broke lately to buy > a copy yet *blush*, but I will) and a few other smalltalk tutorials. there is no problem. The pdfs version is for that :) > > I've read the documents about getting halos activated in the first > place. I'm on linux, where alt-shift middle-click (I'm still trying to > get the button colors down) generally works. > > In the lights out sample, it doesn't. I can ctrl-shift "left" click, > get a giant menu, and select "Add Halo." That puts a halo around the > individual cell. If I close it, it disappears and shows a blue > background (which I'm starting to suspect is a default for > morphics...is that close?). Strange I do not get it. normally the halso should be displayed when you click and option shift (but I'm on mac) > > If I jump back through the "Add Halo" hoops on that background, or > actually manage to click on the border, I just get what seems to be > halos for the desktop (system? background? It's always frustrating to > start learning a new system and not know the terminology...then again, > that's part of the fun). > > I've been able to close the morphic by adding a "self owner delete" > mouse down handler to the cells, then commenting it out until I need > it. But it's more than a little painful. > > I spent about two hours today googling for variations on "morphics > decorated frames", but the results I got suggested that I'm not even > in the ballpark. > > I'm sorry if I missed an FAQ or didn't dig far enough back in the > mailing list archives. > > Thanks in advance, > James > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

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Re: [Pharo-users] How to detect an inactive image?
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Oct. 30, 2010

Oct. 30, 2010

IF you get some answers I;'m interested to know it because we are thinking about what is a VM API to monitor them. > At the moment I have several projects in parallel. Nearly all of them are web based. I use a cherokee server on my local machine that starts a squeak image whenever I access a project via web browser. For persistency I use piers image based persistency. But I don't want to have all of the images run all the time. I would like to shutdown images if they aren't accessed for some time. > I could do it via seaside but then I don't want an image to shutdown while I'm working on the image and not accessing seaside. What is a good measure of activity inside the image? > > thanks, > > Norbert > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

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How to detect an inactive image?
by Norbert Hartl Oct. 29, 2010

Oct. 29, 2010

At the moment I have several projects in parallel. Nearly all of them are web based. I use a cherokee server on my local machine that starts a squeak image whenever I access a project via web browser. For persistency I use piers image based persistency. But I don't want to have all of the images run all the time. I would like to shutdown images if they aren't accessed for some time. I could do it via seaside but then I don't want an image to shutdown while I'm working on the image and not accessing seaside. What is a good measure of activity inside the image? thanks, Norbert

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Re: [Pharo-users] Activating Halos around morphs
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Oct. 25, 2010

Oct. 25, 2010

there are not enabled. You should click + shit option to get them. Stef On Oct 24, 2010, at 11:21 PM, Daniel Klein wrote: > Yep, that helped. I guess that means that halos are always enabled as I could find no Preference (or Setting) to control it. Would that be considered an 'error' in the book/pdf? Should I submit this on the books discussion list? > > And thanks for pointing to that documentation. If it's linked from the main Pharo website, I couldn't find it. > > Dan > > From: pharo-users-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck > Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 11:06 > To: A friendly place where any question about pharo is welcome > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Activating Halos around morphs > > Hi and welcome! I hope you enjoy the book. > > Maybe this helps: http://book.pharo-project.org/book/TipsAndTricks/HowToTurnOnHalos/ > > Let us know, > > Mariano > > On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Daniel Klein <danielk(a)danielk.us> wrote: > I'm new to Pharo and I'm going through the PBE book (yep, I bought it). I'm using the image that goes with the book on Windows XP Pro. > > I can't get halos around any morphs and I don't see a setting in the Preferences browser (I notice this was changed to Settings in later releases). > > I tried evaluating > > Preferences enable: #halosEnabled > > but it had no effect. > > Interestingly, I can get halos around the the World menu with alt+left-click, but once I pin it, I can no longer get the halos. > > What am I missing? > > Daniel Klein > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

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Activating Halos around morphs
by Daniel Klein Oct. 24, 2010

Oct. 24, 2010

I'm new to Pharo and I'm going through the PBE book (yep, I bought it). I'm using the image that goes with the book on Windows XP Pro. I can't get halos around any morphs and I don't see a setting in the Preferences browser (I notice this was changed to Settings in later releases). I tried evaluating Preferences enable: #halosEnabled but it had no effect. Interestingly, I can get halos around the the World menu with alt+left-click, but once I pin it, I can no longer get the halos. What am I missing? Daniel Klein

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Pharocasts: Install Pharo on OSX
by laurent laffont Oct. 21, 2010

Oct. 21, 2010

Hi, The first screencast with my new toolbox and the first one with my voice (don't hesitate to bash me :) and in HD format. So finally the "Install Pharo on OSX" screencast is here: http://www.pharocasts.com/2010/10/install-pharo-on-osx.html Cheers, Laurent Laffont Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/

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Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] [ANN] Continue working in SimpleLogger
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Oct. 21, 2010

Oct. 21, 2010

Probably now we can cretae a pharo project and port it. The license is BSD. Stef On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Davorin Rusevljan wrote: > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:03 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> come on tooth pick has even documentation and it does not look complex. >> redoing all over things does not reduce bugs and >> >> http://www.metaprog.com/Toothpick/docs/quickstart.html >> It looks clean and simple. > > Is squeak version working ok on Pharo? (I guess it does, but just checking) > > rush > http://www.cloud208.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

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Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] [ANN] Continue working in SimpleLogger
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Oct. 21, 2010

Oct. 21, 2010

come on tooth pick has even documentation and it does not look complex. redoing all over things does not reduce bugs and http://www.metaprog.com/Toothpick/docs/quickstart.html It looks clean and simple. Stef On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:51 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 7:24 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > why don;t you look look at toothpick? > > > Because I don't have time to learn a new logging framework, nor to make it work on Pharo. I don't plan to be part of a logging framework. I just needed something really EASY for my projects. So, I remembered GermÃ¡n doing that, I know it was working in Pharo, and it took me 5 minutes to understand. 2 hours more to add my features, and that's all :) I just make it public for other users. > > Chees > > Mariano > > > On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:23 AM, Yanni Chiu wrote: > > > On 20/10/10 9:36 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> What I did basically is to define SimpleLogger like the public API. But > >> then, this class delegates to a LoggerStrategy. I created the following > >> implementations: TranscriptLoggerStrategy, NullLoggerStrategy, > >> FileLoggerStrategy and FixesFileNameLoggerStrategy. In addition, I > >> created a superclass for them, marking the API with SimpleLogger. This > >> class is LoggerStrategy. > >> > >> So, now you can: > >> > >> - Enable and disable easily the logging (thanks to NullLoggerStrategy). > >> - Change on runtime WHERE or HOW to log (just change the strategy). > >> - Be able to write into a File, a Transcript, a FixedFileName, or nothing. > >> - Extend to you own strategy (FileAppendLoggerStrategy?? > >> SocketLoggerStrategy? etc...) > > > > My 2cents. I've not used or looked at SimpleLogger, but recall that it was a single class, plus a metacello config class. > > > > The new functionality sounds very useful, but is it still simple. It sounds like it was simple to add extra features - maybe because SimpleLogger was simple. Will the next person who comes along find a similarly simple implementation that can be easily adapted to specific needs. > > > > A hierarchy of strategy classes no longer sounds simple. What if I don't need all the different strategies loaded, will the configuration then allow multiple build targets for various individual or groups of strategies. Starting to sound complicated. > > > > IMHO, it should be a fork: SomewhatSimpleOnItsWayToComplicatedLogging :) > > > > -- > > Yanni > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

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Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] [ANN] Continue working in SimpleLogger
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Oct. 21, 2010

Oct. 21, 2010

why don;t you look look at toothpick? On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:23 AM, Yanni Chiu wrote: > On 20/10/10 9:36 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> What I did basically is to define SimpleLogger like the public API. But >> then, this class delegates to a LoggerStrategy. I created the following >> implementations: TranscriptLoggerStrategy, NullLoggerStrategy, >> FileLoggerStrategy and FixesFileNameLoggerStrategy. In addition, I >> created a superclass for them, marking the API with SimpleLogger. This >> class is LoggerStrategy. >> >> So, now you can: >> >> - Enable and disable easily the logging (thanks to NullLoggerStrategy). >> - Change on runtime WHERE or HOW to log (just change the strategy). >> - Be able to write into a File, a Transcript, a FixedFileName, or nothing. >> - Extend to you own strategy (FileAppendLoggerStrategy?? >> SocketLoggerStrategy? etc...) > > My 2cents. I've not used or looked at SimpleLogger, but recall that it was a single class, plus a metacello config class. > > The new functionality sounds very useful, but is it still simple. It sounds like it was simple to add extra features - maybe because SimpleLogger was simple. Will the next person who comes along find a similarly simple implementation that can be easily adapted to specific needs. > > A hierarchy of strategy classes no longer sounds simple. What if I don't need all the different strategies loaded, will the configuration then allow multiple build targets for various individual or groups of strategies. Starting to sound complicated. > > IMHO, it should be a fork: SomewhatSimpleOnItsWayToComplicatedLogging :) > > -- > Yanni > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

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Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] [ANN] Continue working in SimpleLogger
by Mariano Martinez Peck Oct. 21, 2010

Oct. 21, 2010

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:22 AM, Yanni Chiu <yanni(a)rogers.com> wrote: > On 20/10/10 9:36 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> What I did basically is to define SimpleLogger like the public API. But >> then, this class delegates to a LoggerStrategy. I created the following >> implementations: TranscriptLoggerStrategy, NullLoggerStrategy, >> FileLoggerStrategy and FixesFileNameLoggerStrategy. In addition, I >> created a superclass for them, marking the API with SimpleLogger. This >> class is LoggerStrategy. >> >> So, now you can: >> >> - Enable and disable easily the logging (thanks to NullLoggerStrategy). >> - Change on runtime WHERE or HOW to log (just change the strategy). >> - Be able to write into a File, a Transcript, a FixedFileName, or nothing. >> - Extend to you own strategy (FileAppendLoggerStrategy?? >> SocketLoggerStrategy? etc...) >> > > My 2cents. I've not used or looked at SimpleLogger, but recall that it was > a single class, plus a metacello config class. > > The new functionality sounds very useful, but is it still simple. It sounds > like it was simple to add extra features - maybe because SimpleLogger was > simple. Will the next person who comes along find a similarly simple > implementation that can be easily adapted to specific needs. > > A hierarchy of strategy classes no longer sounds simple. What if I don't > need all the different strategies loaded, will the configuration then allow > multiple build targets for various individual or groups of strategies. > Starting to sound complicated. > Yes, that's true. However, take a look at the code, and I promisde that in no more than 10 minutes you get the idea how to use it. There are 5 classes, with an average of 5 methods each. > > IMHO, it should be a fork: SomewhatSimpleOnItsWayToComplicatedLogging :) > > heheheh > -- > Yanni > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

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[ANN] Continue working in SimpleLogger
by Mariano Martinez Peck Oct. 20, 2010

Oct. 20, 2010

Hi guys (German). Today I needed to add some real log to something I am developing and I found that SimpleLogger missed those functionalities I was needing. So...I implemented them. It is 3 hours effort, so don't expect too much. But I just wanted to shared with you in case you need it. What I did basically is to define SimpleLogger like the public API. But then, this class delegates to a LoggerStrategy. I created the following implementations: TranscriptLoggerStrategy, NullLoggerStrategy, FileLoggerStrategy and FixesFileNameLoggerStrategy. In addition, I created a superclass for them, marking the API with SimpleLogger. This class is LoggerStrategy. So, now you can: - Enable and disable easily the logging (thanks to NullLoggerStrategy). - Change on runtime WHERE or HOW to log (just change the strategy). - Be able to write into a File, a Transcript, a FixedFileName, or nothing. - Extend to you own strategy (FileAppendLoggerStrategy?? SocketLoggerStrategy? etc...) I did these changes today morning so I didn't have time to write tests nor class comments. However, I wrote some class side example methods in SimpleLogger. Finally, for my own projects I want: - to use a FixedFileName (very similar to the way PharoDebug.log is used). - to only do "self log:" in my classes. The solution I did is that somewhere (maybe in a class of your project or maybe in a special class that holds this) in a class side variable I hold a Singleton with the Logger. So that you can always do for example: MyAppLogger logger log: 'zaraza'. And finally, I implemented Object >> log: (with category *MyAppPackage) log: anObject MyAppLogger logger log: anObject. With this, anywhere in the classes of my app I can do: self log: 'something'. The code is temporally commited in http://www.squeaksource.com/Marea German: if you think I should commit directly to SimpleLogger repo, just let me know. In addition, be completely free to change it as you want and commit it there too. Cheers mariano

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Decompiling method body returns as block?
by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand Oct. 19, 2010

Oct. 19, 2010

Hi list, I'm using Pharo1.1rc2 #11400 and I want to extract the body part (the String without the selector) of a CompiledMethod, but I'm getting a BlockNode after sending #body and a MNU afterwards. This is what I do aCompiledMethod decompileWithTemps ---> a BytecodeAgnosticMethodNode which is displayed like: 'renderContentOn: aRenderer aRenderer form id: ''horizontalForm''; with: [aRenderer fieldSet: [ ... blablabla ]]' and is ok. Then aCompiledMethod decompileWithTemps body ---> a BlockNode displayed as: {[:aRenderer | aRenderer form id: 'horizontalForm'; with: [aRenderer fieldSet: [... blablabla]]]} I've expected the code string (sending #decompileString) without "[:aRenderer |" part (used to work that way). The thing is if I send #code to the BlockNode I get a "MessageNotUnderstood: CascadeNode>>code". I'd appreciate any hint to solve this. Cheers, -- HernÃ¡n Morales Information Technology Manager, Institute of Veterinary Genetics. National Scientific and Technical Research Council (CONICET). La Plata (1900), Buenos Aires, Argentina. Telephone: +54 (0221) 421-1799. Internal: 422 Fax: 425-7980 or 421-1799.

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Re: [Pharo-users] Difference between Set and HashedCollection
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Oct. 18, 2010

Oct. 18, 2010

and we should clean it because it was introduced a bit fast in pharo :) On Oct 18, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > HashedCollection is an abstract base class, which contains common > behavior for all hash-based collections, > including Set, Dictionary etc. > > On 18 October 2010 13:04, Benjamin Van Ryseghem > <benjamin.vanryseghem(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> I was looking in Pharo sources and I do not understand the difference >> between Set and HashedCollection which both seems to work the same way. >> >> >> Benjamin >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

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Difference between Set and HashedCollection
by Benjamin Van Ryseghem Oct. 18, 2010

Oct. 18, 2010

I was looking in Pharo sources and I do not understand the difference between Set and HashedCollection which both seems to work the same way. Benjamin

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FFI Problems in Pharo 1.1 'Callout mechanism not available'
by BraveSirRobin Oct. 17, 2010

Oct. 17, 2010

I'm having intermittent problems with FFI in Pharo 1.1. I often get my image to the point where I can only get the error 'Callout mechanism not available' whenever I call a DLL function. These functions have previously worked perfectly but then stop working for some reason. Anyone know what causes this and what the fix/workaround is ? The only solution I've found so far is to save my packages and load them into a new image which is a bit time consuming. BTW, I'm running under Windows 7, 32-bit. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/FFI-Problems-in-Pharo-1-1-Callout-mechanism-not-avail… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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[ANN] Opal Digest
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Oct. 12, 2010

Oct. 12, 2010

==================== Summary ==================== Name: OpalCompiler-Core-MarcusDenker.47 Author: MarcusDenker Time: 7 October 2010, 10:10:56 am UUID: eabd712c-a974-4416-9551-e210d85b6949 Ancestors: OpalCompiler-Core-JorgeRessia.46 -> Pass over ASTTranslator to make the effect (after) vs. value visiting more correct. More tests are green. -> Cleanups ==================== Summary ==================== Name: OpalCompiler-Tests-MarcusDenker.48 Author: MarcusDenker Time: 12 October 2010, 10:14 am UUID: 53fb460f-935c-4dd7-87df-92b9c77eb1f4 Ancestors: OpalCompiler-Tests-MarcusDenker.47 for now, remove OCCompilationEquivalencyTest ==================== Summary ==================== Name: OpalCompiler-Core-MarcusDenker.48 Author: MarcusDenker Time: 12 October 2010, 10:15:08 am UUID: f26101a1-d417-47c7-ab02-4974f0a15c93 Ancestors: OpalCompiler-Core-MarcusDenker.47 - some simplifications (eg remove compiledMethod...Using: methods from bc builder and iRBuilder) - cleanups - some fixes/hacks to make more tests green. ==================== Summary ==================== Name: OpalCompiler-Core-MarcusDenker.49 Author: MarcusDenker Time: 12 October 2010, 4:06:20 pm UUID: 21e13b3b-418a-404c-9405-9438b939a7a7 Ancestors: OpalCompiler-Core-MarcusDenker.48 - ASTTranslator: now #acceptBlockNode is responsible for pushing nil on empty bloks - ASTTranslator: simplify #acceptSequenceNode ==================== Summary ==================== Name: OpalCompiler-Tests-MarcusDenker.49 Author: MarcusDenker Time: 12 October 2010, 4:09:30 pm UUID: 9a662177-0e87-49fc-9cc3-475a6678f4f5 Ancestors: OpalCompiler-Tests-MarcusDenker.48 - started to merge OCSpecialVariableCases with OCOpalCompilerExamples - removed all #expectedTestfailures (e.g. FFI related tests are just skipped when FFI not installed) - add ASTTranslator test for exampleToDoInsideTemp and testExampleToDoInsideTempNotInlined - added testPushArray and testTodoValue (and example methods) - test initialize class side of BytecodeGenerator

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Re: [Pharo-users] Simple OO smaltalk question
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Oct. 11, 2010

Oct. 11, 2010

OOP in Smalltalk is nearly the same as in Java! No typecheck > I could do the same thing this way, right, but this seems more verbose and ugly then it has to be. > > > > (user isKindOf: RSPerson ) ifTrue: [returnPage := (RSPerson firstPageForUserClass) ]. > (user isKindOf: RSAdmin ) ifTrue: [returnPage := (RSAdmin firstPageForUserClass) ]. > (user isKindOf: RSTeacher ) ifTrue: [returnPage := (RSTeacher firstPageForUserClass) ]. > (user isKindOf: RSStudent ) ifTrue: [returnPage := (RSStudent firstPageForUserClass) ]. > > ^returnPage why don't you either declare a factory or simply define methods on the RS-Object > RSPerson >> firstPageForUserClass ^ cccc > RSAdmin >> firstPageForUserClass > RSTeacher >> firstPageForUserClass Stef

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Simple OO smaltalk question
by Tony Giaccone Oct. 10, 2010

Oct. 10, 2010

I'm new to Smalltalk and come from the java world and am looking for a bit of help on how something should be implemented. Assume I have a Person class and that there are three subclasses of that class Admin, Teacher, Student. I also have a class called UserManager I want to implement a method on UserManger>> class firstPageForUser: user This method looks at the class of the user and returns an initial page for each user after log in. I have this method implmented: Person>>class firstPageForUser ^nil Now on the UserManager clas>> firstPageForUser: user (user isKindOf: Person ) ifTrue: [returnPage := ( (user class) firstPageForUser) ]. Which as I'm sure most of you realize doesn't work. I'm not sure how to structure the call so that the right message gets sent to the class. My understanding is that even though the subclasses don't implement this method yet, that the method should be passed up the class tree till it finds the method in Person. However, I also know that the syntax for the method I've written isn't correct. What I want to do is make the call on the class for each subclass. I could do the same thing this way, right, but this seems more verbose and ugly then it has to be. (user isKindOf: RSPerson ) ifTrue: [returnPage := (RSPerson firstPageForUserClass) ]. (user isKindOf: RSAdmin ) ifTrue: [returnPage := (RSAdmin firstPageForUserClass) ]. (user isKindOf: RSTeacher ) ifTrue: [returnPage := (RSTeacher firstPageForUserClass) ]. (user isKindOf: RSStudent ) ifTrue: [returnPage := (RSStudent firstPageForUserClass) ]. ^returnPage

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Consuming delimiters in PetitParser
by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand Oct. 8, 2010

Oct. 8, 2010

Hi all, I'm writing a parser like the following ( $> asParser , 'gi' asParser , $| asParser , ( #digit asParser plus flatten plusLazy: $| asParser ) , ( (#letter asParser / #digit asParser / #space asParser / #punctuation asParser ) asParser plus flatten ) ) end In the attachment you will see the my sample input and the parsing result collection in which the last element is "|abc", but I want the #plusLazy: (or #plusGreedy: ?) to consume the $| delimiter so it results in #($> 'gi' $| #('648') $| 'abc') any suggestions? Cheers, -- HernÃ¡n Morales Information Technology Manager, Institute of Veterinary Genetics. National Scientific and Technical Research Council (CONICET). La Plata (1900), Buenos Aires, Argentina. Telephone: +54 (0221) 421-1799. Internal: 422 Fax: 425-7980 or 421-1799.

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Re: [Pharo-users] Hard crash when teaching
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Oct. 8, 2010

Oct. 8, 2010

> It depends on when you want to use that particular brain later to do real work or not ... :-P ;D

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Re: [Pharo-users] Hard crash when teaching
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Oct. 8, 2010

Oct. 8, 2010

this is not beacuse self surgery is good when you cut your nails the morning in your bathroom that operating your brain is not a stupid idea. Stef > Always fun when you want to show the students that everything can be changed in Smalltalk ... > Inclusive the behavior of Integer>>+ > Inclusive when the current behavior does strange things with the second argument when it is not a number (instead of simply throwing an error), e.g what happens in 1 + 'foo' > Inclusive when you are debugging said expression. > > Apparantly that was too much to ask :-( Hard crash of the image :-( :-( > > Reported as issue http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3072 > > -- > Johan Fabry > jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

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Hard crash when teaching
by Johan Fabry Oct. 7, 2010

Oct. 7, 2010

Always fun when you want to show the students that everything can be changed in Smalltalk ... Inclusive the behavior of Integer>>+ Inclusive when the current behavior does strange things with the second argument when it is not a number (instead of simply throwing an error), e.g what happens in 1 + 'foo' Inclusive when you are debugging said expression. Apparantly that was too much to ask :-( Hard crash of the image :-( :-( Reported as issue http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3072 -- Johan Fabry jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

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Re: [Pharo-users] where do you report a bug on http://book.pharo-project.org?
by StÃ©phane Ducasse Oct. 7, 2010

Oct. 7, 2010

here. > Hi All, > > Where could i report a bug on http://book.pharo-project.org? > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

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where do you report a bug on http://book.pharo-project.org?
by Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras Oct. 7, 2010

Oct. 7, 2010

Hi All, Where could i report a bug on http://book.pharo-project.org? Thanks

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I'm trying to call markdown as an external process
by Pat Maddox Oct. 7, 2010

Oct. 7, 2010

I'm trying to do something which (I think) is very simple: I just want to run a line of text through Markdown and get the output. I've spent all day reading through the code for OSProcess and CommandShell. It took me a while, but I finally figured out I can run a command and get its output with: UnixProcess waitForCommandOutput: 'ls ~' The next problem I'm having is getting markdown to run on an arbitrary string. If I go into my shell and do: $ /usr/local/bin/markdown <<END > # This is a heading > This is a paragraph with _emphasis_ > END <h1>This is a heading</h1> Then I get the output that I expect: <p>This is a paragraph with <em>emphasis</em></p> I can't figure out how to do this with OSProcess though. I've tried: UnixProcess waitForCommand: ('/usr/local/bin/markdown <<END hello world END') but with no luck. I've also tried using OSProcess at a lower level, setting up the stream input object, but it seems to require a reference to an actual file, rather than just a stream. Anyone have any ideas? I want to take an arbitrary string and use that as the input to my markdown command, and then store that output in an instance variable. I could use some help. Thanks, Pat

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Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] Pharo Talk ESUG 2010
by Marcus Denker Oct. 7, 2010

Oct. 7, 2010

On Oct 7, 2010, at 1:23 AM, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > hehe, thanks! > > You will come to Smalltalks 2010 ? Yes, Mariano, Luc and me. > > I was thinking exactly in ask permit to use this one (and other > similars) to present Pharo in other contexts, for example in localgroups, etc. Normally all my talks are CC non-commercial share-alike... only that I often forget to put it in the slides... > That's perfectly allowed and even more, a ppt/keypoint template should be available. 2 days ago Marcus borrowed this one for my PhD first year evaliuation ;) Ok, I have put the keynote (zipped): http://marcusdenker.de/talks/10ESUG/ -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

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Oct. 7, 2010

yes On Oct 7, 2010, at 12:50 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > What do you think about having these presentations and videos available from the website?? maybe under Community or under a new section "Media" or even inside documentation. > > Adrian? > > On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi, > > Now online: > > Slides Slideshare: http://www.slideshare.net/esug/pharo > Slides Download: http://www.marcusdenker.de/talks/10ESUG/2010PharoESUG.pdf > Video Web: http://esug2010.objectfusion.fr/tuesday.html > (part of all the Tuesday Videos) > Video for Download: > flv: http://www.marcusdenker.de/talks/10ESUG/esug2010_0914_denker.flv > mp4: http://www.marcusdenker.de/talks/10ESUG/esug2010_0914_denker.mp4 > > Marcus > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

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Pharo Talk ESUG 2010
by Marcus Denker Oct. 6, 2010

Oct. 6, 2010

Hi, Now online: Slides Slideshare: http://www.slideshare.net/esug/pharo Slides Download: http://www.marcusdenker.de/talks/10ESUG/2010PharoESUG.pdf Video Web: http://esug2010.objectfusion.fr/tuesday.html (part of all the Tuesday Videos) Video for Download: flv: http://www.marcusdenker.de/talks/10ESUG/esug2010_0914_denker.flv mp4: http://www.marcusdenker.de/talks/10ESUG/esug2010_0914_denker.mp4 Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

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Breakpoints in Pharo
by S Krish Oct. 6, 2010

Oct. 6, 2010

http://skrishnamachari.wordpress.com/2010/09/20/debugger-point-in-pharo-cod… Unit tests from the browser do this automatically for now.. Any corrections and inputs are welcome.. it will help in becoming that bit more productive on Pharo.. -Skrish

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Tool for: Image2 - Image1 > FileOut?
by Stefan Marr Oct. 6, 2010

Oct. 6, 2010

Hello: I got here two images without sufficient development history, source code management, or change sets. One of the images is the basis point and the other contains all the relevant code I need to file out somehow so that it represents a diff which can be filed into the base point image easily. I am only interested in classes, methods, and their meta infos, so general state in the image is not a problem at the moment. If it would be only about methods, that would be easy, since I can find out whether it is a changed/new method by locking at the fileIndex. However, for classes that does not work out. How can I find out whether they changed or were added? That seems to be only possible if they were actually commented... Is there any known tool which could produce me a diff/fileOut/changeSet from two given images? Or might there be any other information in the image I could use to create one myself? Thanks and best regards Stefan -- Stefan Marr Software Languages Lab Vrije Universiteit Brussel Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr Phone: +32 2 629 2974 Fax: +32 2 629 3525

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Pharocasts: Getting started with Pier CMS
by laurent laffont Oct. 4, 2010

Oct. 4, 2010

Pier is a content management system that is light, flexible and free. This screencast shows - how to setup Pier for a minimal web site - configure persistency. http://www.pharocasts.com/2010/10/getting-started-with-pier-cms.html Recorded by Damien Cassou, voice by Christoph Budzinsky, edited by Laurent Laffont. This video is a real team work :) Cheers, Laurent Laffont Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/

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Distributing 'minimal' image
by Johan Fabry Oct. 1, 2010

Oct. 1, 2010

Hi all, I am planning to put online a minimal image that contains AspectMaps, with some models pre-loaded. Two questions: - Is there an easy way to strip this image of dev tools et cetera? - How can I make it so that I can distribute it without the changes file? (Right now the image complains of a missing changes file if it is not there ...) Thanks in advance! -- Johan Fabry jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

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[ANN] Pharo-1.1.1-dev10.09.1
by Mariano Martinez Peck Oct. 1, 2010

Oct. 1, 2010

Hi folks. We are releasing Pharo 1.1.1. This image is exactly same as Pharo 1.1 but based on PharoCore 1.1.1. The versions of the external packages is the same as in Pharo 1.1. The difference is that PharoCore1.1.1 has integrated some fixes and the support for CogVM. This means that Pharo-1.1.1-dev10.09.1 can be run with both, normal PharoVM and CogVM. For CogVM we recommend to use the last binaries that can be found in http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/. Right now the last one is http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2313/ This CogVM version fixes the problem with "Objects as methods", and thus, all the #run:with:with are working. This means that tools like TestCoverage and AutoTest are working correctly with CogVM. The link to the image is: https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27543/Pharo-1.1.1-dev10.09.1.zip Cheers Mariano

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Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-users Digest, Vol 9, Issue 32
by -Martin Ramos Oct. 1, 2010

Oct. 1, 2010

hi guillermo, i Â´m from Quilmes, Argentina, im study in the UNQ university, iÂ´m very happy to share experiences with you. 2010/9/30 <pharo-users-request(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > Send Pharo-users mailing list submissions to > pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pharo-users-request(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pharo-users-owner(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Pharo-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Pharo 1.1.1 OneClickCogVm > (Mariano Martinez Peck) > 2. Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Pharo 1.1.1 OneClickCogVm > (Igor Stasenko) > 3. Hello (-Martin Ramos) > 4. Re: Hello (St?phane Ducasse) > 5. Re: Hello (Guillermo Polito) > 6. Distributing 'minimal' image (Johan Fabry) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:16:32 +0200 > From: Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] [ANN] Pharo 1.1.1 > OneClickCogVm > To: A friendly place where any question about pharo is welcome > <pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > Message-ID: > <AANLkTikyc=kbqo+tWoCP_-MNsUnSwJgAJivkNkXVg+im(a)mail.gmail.com<kbqo%2BtWoCP_-MNsUnSwJgAJivkNkXVg%2Bim(a)mail.gmail.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hi Mariano, > > > > Is the 1.1.1 dev image available for the old VM? > > > > No, but you can do it by yourself. Just take the PharoCore 1.1.1 ( > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27526/PharoCore-1.1.1.zip) > And evaluate: > > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfPharo'; > load. > > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPharo) project version: '1.1') perform: > #silently: with: true; perform: #load. > > > > > > > I was a bit away, and I am not sure of the status. If there is something > I > > can do, please let me know. > > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > > > On 25 Sep 2010, at 19:49, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > Hi Mariano, > > > > > > This is a good and needed step. > > > > > > Now, just a problem: 1.1.1dev image does not work with the regular VM. > > This is probably because you saved it again after you opened it with the > Cog > > VM. It would be great if the released dev image would work with both. > > > > > > Excellent suggestion :) > > > Thanks doru. > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Doru > > > > > > > > > > > > On 25 Sep 2010, at 17:56, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > > > Hi. This is not an official release. I didn't do all the formal > > procedure for releasing a Pharo image. My idea is try to push CogVM and > try > > to get as much as testers as possible. Try to report issues and help > Eliot. > > For that purpose, I think having a one click image is worth it. > > > > > > > > So.....I build a Pharo dev on top of the PharoCore 1.1.1 (which has > > some fixes over 1.1 and the CogVM necessary changes). I build the image > with > > exactly the same versions of the external packages than Pharo 1.1. > > > > > > > > If you want to download that this Pharo1.1.1 dev image that works > with > > Cog here is the link: > > > > > > > > > > > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27516/Pharo-1.1.1-dev10.09.1.zip > > > > > > > > In addition, and thanks to Lukas, we could generate OneClicks with > > CogVM. Here you can have a OneClick using the above image: > > > > > > > > > > > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27524/Pharo-1.1.1-OneClickCogVM.zip > > > > > > > > Notice that this is not an official release and that there are > > failing/errors tests. I've already sent emails for them and hopefully > > someone may fix them. The only thing is not supported is the TestCoverage > > (since it uses objects as methods, with is not yet supported in CogVM). > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > Mariano > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Pharo-users mailing list > > > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > > > -- > > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > > > "The coherence of a trip is given by the clearness of the goal." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-project mailing list > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-project mailing list > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "In a world where everything is moving ever faster, > > one might have better chances to win by moving slower." > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-users mailing list > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > >

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