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Re: [Pharo-users] Should I be reporting bugs in Pharo 3.0?

by Nicolai Hess

2014-07-09 21:48 GMT+02:00 Tim Mackinnon <tamackinnon(a)gmail.com>: > I've also noticed I keep getting re-prompted to enter my username when I > save > source (this is a very fresh image) - I think it may be because I've just > saved comments and class methods so far - but its prompted me several times > now for my name? > > Should I report steps for this? > Yes please report steps to reproduce this. And the other two bugs you described in the other mail. Please try to reproduce them with Pharo4.0 and report for that version at first. If they are serious or important or if there is a high demand for pharo3 users, we should open another bug entry for pharo3.0 too. regards nicolai > > Tim > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Should-I-be-reporting-bugs-in-Pharo-3-0-tp4767284p476… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

July 9, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] How to download Pharo40?

by Yuriy Tymchuk

You are welcome. I think that original author Damien Cassou will appreciate tweaks :) Uko On 09 Jul 2014, at 21:50, Tim Mackinnon <tamackinnon(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Uko - just tried Pharo launcher and its actually pretty good. I already > have a few ideas for little tweaks so maybe I may be able to contribute > something when I get a bit better. > > Thanks for pointing it out. > > Tim > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-to-download-Pharo40-tp4766797p4767287.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

July 9, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] How to download Pharo40?

by Tim Mackinnon

Hey Uko - just tried Pharo launcher and its actually pretty good. I already have a few ideas for little tweaks so maybe I may be able to contribute something when I get a bit better. Thanks for pointing it out. Tim -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-to-download-Pharo40-tp4766797p4767287.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

July 9, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Should I be reporting bugs in Pharo 3.0?

by Tim Mackinnon

I've also noticed I keep getting re-prompted to enter my username when I save source (this is a very fresh image) - I think it may be because I've just saved comments and class methods so far - but its prompted me several times now for my name? Should I report steps for this? Tim -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Should-I-be-reporting-bugs-in-Pharo-3-0-tp4767284p476… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

July 9, 2014

Should I be reporting bugs in Pharo 3.0?

by Tim Mackinnon

I don't want to create lots of noise - or create unnecessary work, but if I find bugs in Pharo 3.0, should I be reporting them? Or do you want me to try and repro them in 4.0 and then report them under 4.0? For example, I have a class that was a subclass of CustomHelp that overrode the class #pages method. I then decided to use Wiki help, and so moved my class to subclass Object, but then i noticed that the #pages method (which I was about to delete) still had an override green arrow symbol. Curious - I clicked it and got a walkback (as the UI is wrong). How do I report that? Do you want me to? I do have a fobgugz account. I've also noticed another error with the locked methods pane (not sure what to call it, and also really don't fully understand how it works). However it gets corrupted with long wrapping strings in the source. Do I report that? Tim -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Should-I-be-reporting-bugs-in-Pharo-3-0-tp4767284.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

July 9, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Building UI with Spec vs Pharo

by Stephan Eggermont

Not much has changed since then. If you can manage to get away with using a higher level framework, you save time and effort. Glamour has less choice in widgets and layout, but in both you'll probably end up adding something that isn't there/ready yet. To understand how to add/complete something you'll have to dive into (Poly)Morph(ic) for both Spec and Glamour. Stephan

July 9, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Building UI with Spec vs Pharo

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

Well for the moment a diagram drawing tool (Class diagrams/State machines/...), however the end goal (in a time and space far far away) is a CASE tool. So for the moment I need a visualization (provided by Roassal), some way to display hierarchical/tree data, forms, popups and such (basically what I mentioned in previous post). Peter On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > Hi Peter, > > Spec is a user interface framework that is meant to be able to create any > kind of user interface. On the other hand Glamour is meant for browser-like > user interfaces where there is a flow from one element to another. So the > answer is: it depends on what you want to do. > > Could you tell us what is it that you are trying to build? > > > On Jul 9, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > what is the recommended framework for building UIs? As I understand it > Spec should be able to handle pretty much anything, however Glamour has > quite a lot of nice features and was recommended here > http://forum.world.st/Roassal-amp-Spec-td4690745.html as a higher-level > abstraction framework (albeit the issue here was mostly Roassal which as I > understand is a non issue since there is Roassal2Spec package). However I > haven't seen things like forms (text inputs, checkboxes, (radio)selects, > buttons) or popups (yes/no confirmations, prompts) made in Glamour so I am > unsure whether it is possible. > > > > Thanks, > > Peter > > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > >

July 9, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Red Exclamation in Nautilus?

by Tim Mackinnon

Thank you everyone - I shall continue to explore. In fact my idea was to create a Help book to document some of this stuff. As the first place I looked was in World | Help - which told me a about all kinds of other things, but not some of the basics. It seemed like it would be easy to add a CustomHelp subclass with a few pages documenting some of this stuff. And I would add a page each time I asked you guys a question or discovered something new. Tim -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Red-Exclamation-in-Nautilus-tp4767242p4767254.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

July 9, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Red Exclamation in Nautilus?

by Marcus Denker

On 09 Jul 2014, at 18:07, Baptiste QuidÃ© <baptistequide(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > the exclamation mark means that your class has no class comment. You have to edit your comment class to switch the exclamation mark to the normal class icon (or morph icon, exception icon, etc. which that represent your class). > For the difference between "Add Class" and "Add full Class", apparently it seems to be a bug, because the behavior of the two options is the same (simply add a new class yo your package). Moreover "add Full Class" is not in the contextual menu on Pharo 4. > I think the original idea was to show a template with trait and poolDictionaryâ¦ which might be good to have. But I am not sureâ¦ so in Pharo4 I for now removed that duplication. We should back port that. Marcus

July 9, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] How to download Pharo40?

by Tim Mackinnon

Actually - I've realised that there is a simple thing that would be helpful on the http://pharo.org/download page. Where it mentions the Zero Conf script and the Hacker Downloads section points to the "(Read the ZeroConf chapter on http://www.deepintopharo.com)" - it would be much more useful if they also mentioned there are docs on "http://get.pharo.org/" That would have fixed my problem. Tim -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-to-download-Pharo40-tp4766797p4767251.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

July 9, 2014