February 2011 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] Deleting an instance

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi. No, in most object oriented languages there is no other way to remove an object that remove all the references to it and then force a garbage collector. As Laurent suggested, in this case, the better option is to explore the pointers to such objects to see who are ponting to it. cheers mariano On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 9:08 PM, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>wrote: > If instance is not referenced anymore, you can: > > Smalltalk garbageCollect. > > If still here, you can search (but not easy) for references with: > > PointerExplorer new openExplorerFor: myInstance. > > > Laurent. > > > On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:54 PM, DougEdmunds <dougedmunds(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> Is there a way to delete/remove/kill an instance other than by quitting >> and >> starting Pharo up again? >> >> In my example, I installed the ContactListEditor package from >> http://www.pharocasts.com/2011/02/pharo-gui-with-polymorph.html >> >> After several "ContactListEditor open" doIts, I closed most of the >> windows. >> I inspected "ContactListEditor allInstances" and it has an array of >> instances, >> one for each 'doIt'. The instances are still 'alive', including those >> whose >> windows were closed. >> >> If I save and quit Pharo, and restart it, the only instances that are >> alive >> are >> the ones that have open windows. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://forum.world.st/Deleting-an-instance-tp3328590p3328590.html >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >

Feb. 28, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Is there a metric server for Pharo

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Panu with are looking for users :) so if you want we are - developing a dashboard - should work on the evolution of metrics. Stef On Feb 28, 2011, at 5:20 PM, Panu Suominen wrote: > > 2011/2/28 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: > > There is Moose: > > It has all the code for calculating metrics. (and to do visualizations based on them) > > I know. But the results should be stored somewhere to be publicly viewable. Preferably version information is attached to the metrics enabling monitoring if problems get fixed or introduced. > > > We are actually developing a reporting dashboard thing for the pharo code base... > > maybe Cyrille can tell more? > > OK. I would like to know more. :) >

Feb. 28, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Simple plugin for Jenkins to run Pharo/Squeak VM images

by Panu Suominen

2011/2/28 Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com>: > I would be interested in this, but I would need help to install it :). I would like to give it a try in the context of Moose. On the hudson management there is plugin section there one should be able to load plugins by uploading files. Other approach is to copy the plugin to the hudson plugin directory. This is mostly .hudson/plugins at the home directory of the user running the servlet container hudson resides in. More about installing plugins http://wiki.hudson-ci.org/display/HUDSON/Plugins. > Is the solution already able to react when errors appear in the image? For example, the shell script solution of Lukas looks for Debug.log and then suspends the process if one appears. No. But I can easily implement the file checking. The "problem" is that Philippe Marschall has apparently done similar plugin. I don't know if it wise for this small community to develop two similar plugins... I have to check what are Phillippe's plans. My idea was to develop plugin that asks information about ConfigurationOfXXX and desired version and could do building, testing and reporting based on that information. -- Panu

Feb. 28, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Deleting an instance

by laurent laffont

If instance is not referenced anymore, you can: Smalltalk garbageCollect. If still here, you can search (but not easy) for references with: PointerExplorer new openExplorerFor: myInstance. Laurent. On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:54 PM, DougEdmunds <dougedmunds(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Is there a way to delete/remove/kill an instance other than by quitting and > starting Pharo up again? > > In my example, I installed the ContactListEditor package from > http://www.pharocasts.com/2011/02/pharo-gui-with-polymorph.html > > After several "ContactListEditor open" doIts, I closed most of the windows. > I inspected "ContactListEditor allInstances" and it has an array of > instances, > one for each 'doIt'. The instances are still 'alive', including those whose > windows were closed. > > If I save and quit Pharo, and restart it, the only instances that are alive > are > the ones that have open windows. > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Deleting-an-instance-tp3328590p3328590.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Feb. 28, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Simple plugin for Jenkins to run Pharo/Squeak VM images

by Tudor Girba

Hi Panu, I would be interested in this, but I would need help to install it :). I would like to give it a try in the context of Moose. Is the solution already able to react when errors appear in the image? For example, the shell script solution of Lukas looks for Debug.log and then suspends the process if one appears. Cheers, Doru On 28 Feb 2011, at 16:03, Panu Suominen wrote: > 2011/2/28 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: >> We are actually not using a plugin but just call shell scripts on the server. >> (we use Lukas' scripts https://github.com/renggli/builder ) >> I know that Philippe did a plugin, too. I always wanted to look at how a plugin can even >> simplify the setup... (especially for simple cases), but this has been pushed down the >> TODO list... > > Yep. This is plugin not a shell script. This is the main difference. > Of course the plugin is not so mature > as the shell script. For example I haven't had time to test how to > maintain package cache, but that should > be quite easy to do using Jenkin's workspace. > > At my work we have some problems creating new build configurations > using the shell approach and thus we needed plugin to help the > process. Unfortunately I did not find plugin for the job so I had to > start writing one. > > -- > Panu > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Value is always contextual."

Feb. 28, 2011

Deleting an instance

by DougEdmunds

Is there a way to delete/remove/kill an instance other than by quitting and starting Pharo up again? In my example, I installed the ContactListEditor package from http://www.pharocasts.com/2011/02/pharo-gui-with-polymorph.html After several "ContactListEditor open" doIts, I closed most of the windows. I inspected "ContactListEditor allInstances" and it has an array of instances, one for each 'doIt'. The instances are still 'alive', including those whose windows were closed. If I save and quit Pharo, and restart it, the only instances that are alive are the ones that have open windows. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Deleting-an-instance-tp3328590p3328590.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Feb. 28, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Is there a metric server for Pharo

by Simon Denier

On 28 fÃ©vr. 2011, at 17:20, Panu Suominen wrote: > > 2011/2/28 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: > > There is Moose: > > It has all the code for calculating metrics. (and to do visualizations based on them) > > I know. But the results should be stored somewhere to be publicly viewable. Preferably version information is attached to the metrics enabling monitoring if problems get fixed or introduced. > > > We are actually developing a reporting dashboard thing for the pharo code base... > > maybe Cyrille can tell more? > More precisely the project is called Menssana. Indeed, it uses Moose but just for computing some things, and basically provides a Glamour browser for concerns: unit tests, lint rules, metrics and basic visualizations... There is also a possibility to browse concerns on the web with Seaside. Some work needs to be done to support concern history (i.e. evolution, trends...) As the active developer, Cyrille can say more about the current status. -- Simon Denier

Feb. 28, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Is there a metric server for Pharo

by Panu Suominen

2011/2/28 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: > There is Moose: > It has all the code for calculating metrics. (and to do visualizations based on them) I know. But the results should be stored somewhere to be publicly viewable. Preferably version information is attached to the metrics enabling monitoring if problems get fixed or introduced. > We are actually developing a reporting dashboard thing for the pharo code base... > maybe Cyrille can tell more? OK. I would like to know more. :)

Feb. 28, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Is there a metric server for Pharo

by Marcus Denker

On Feb 28, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Panu Suominen wrote: > This time I ask before implementing something that has already been done. :) > > I know there are quite good tools for metrics and code quality > control. However I don't know if there is any software to publish > these kind of results. In Java world there is Sonar > (http://www.sonarsource.org/) So, are there any tools to publish code > quality metrics? If not I am going to see if sonar can be used to > archive this task... someday. > There is Moose: http://www.moosetechnology.org/ It has all the code for calculating metrics. (and to do visualizations based on them) We are actually developing a reporting dashboard thing for the pharo code base... maybe Cyrille can tell more? Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

Feb. 28, 2011

Is there a metric server for Pharo

by Panu Suominen

This time I ask before implementing something that has already been done. :) I know there are quite good tools for metrics and code quality control. However I don't know if there is any software to publish these kind of results. In Java world there is Sonar (http://www.sonarsource.org/) So, are there any tools to publish code quality metrics? If not I am going to see if sonar can be used to archive this task... someday. -- Panu

Feb. 28, 2011