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Re: [Pharo-users] Blitzkrieg!

by jtuchel＠objektfabrik.de

Sven, >> I got Richardâs message about ESUG and I asked for facts. It seems you didn't read my full postâ¦ > I did read it, it was well written and I agree with what you said. Thanks. > > But you were too polite, you give him the benefit of the doubt. No, I asked for proof. Too polite? Well, not all the comments from the other side were polite, and I tried to help deescalate. > I don't think that I have to remind anyone of what ESUG means (now and in the past) for the larger Smalltalk community. I just do not even want to make that comparison, not even for the sake of the discussion. As long as there are no facts on the table, I think there are more people than just ESUG that have good reasons to be offended. We've had and still have quite a few initiatives that promote Smalltalk and where inidividuals or groups put lots of effort into. Be it blogs, books, link collections, meta-sites or whatever. Overall there is much more going on around Smalltalk than, say, ten years ago. I wanted to give Richard a chance to give us facts to understand why he thinks he has achieved more than others, and I think nobody benefits if we just bash a person for his choice of words in a few postings. I personally have no idea what he's up to and if he's working on something spectacular. We haven't seen it yet, but he pre-announced a lot. Joachim

Jan. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Blitzkrieg!

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 19 Jan 2015, at 20:00, <jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de> <jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de> wrote: > > Sven, > > I got Richardâs message about ESUG and I asked for facts. It seems you didn't read my full postâ¦ I did read it, it was well written and I agree with what you said. But you were too polite, you give him the benefit of the doubt. I don't think that I have to remind anyone of what ESUG means (now and in the past) for the larger Smalltalk community. I just do not even want to make that comparison, not even for the sake of the discussion. > Joachim > > Von: Sven Van Caekenberghe > Gesendet: âMontagâ, â19â. âJanuarâ â2015 â19â:â17 > An: Any question about pharo is welcome > > > > On 19 Jan 2015, at 17:48, jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de wrote: > > > > All that's been said so far is that some people do not like the use of some military terms, no matter where they come from and whether people know what these mean or not. We are not on a crusade, and this is not about conquering anything or anybody. > > I am sorry, Joachim, but that is not true: he just said (ok, implicitly) that ESUG is worthless. And he said many more quite hurtful things by stating 'facts' or comparing (as equal or unequal) or rating different projects. > > Yes, since he wrote his first 'essay', it seems that he knows more or less what Smalltalk is, further than that I am sceptical.

Jan. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [Moose-dev] [Pharo-dev] OpenStreetMap integration

by Thushar G R

That looks great. Thank you for your work. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 12:30 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Yes, I agree. This is on our todo. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > > On Jan 19, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Alex, > > > > I strongly believe that the concrete implementation that links Roassal > to the data format should be moved to a separate package and ideally, to > another configuration. > > > > The generic engine should be decoupled from concrete data sources. > > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Alexandre Bergel < > alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > > It should yes > > > > Roassal2 now depends on NeoJSON by the way. > > > > Alexandre > > > > > > > On Jan 19, 2015, at 11:26 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> > wrote: > > > > > > Is this in the latest moose 5.1 build ? > > > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "Every thing has its own flow" > > _______________________________________________ > > Moose-dev mailing list > > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > >

Jan. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] What we have with our community: near indestructible

by kilon alios

Actually I could add the book to github group for Pharo documentation so everyone can contribute as long as he is the member of the group which already contains the source for the new PBE and Pharo for the Enterprise and all other books. On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:41 PM, nacho <0800nacho(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Great!! Great!! Kilon, > Please let me help you, at least reading the drafts or whatever I can be > usefull to. > I'm eager to learn morphic!!! > cheers > Nacho > > > > > ----- > Nacho > Smalltalker apprentice. > Buenos Aires, Argentina. > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/What-we-have-with-our-community-near-indestructible-t… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Jan. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Code highlight

by Johan Fabry

I had a quick look. I confirm that TextModel keeps a value holder on the current selection interval, in the instance variable named âselection', but apparently there is no API to register to notifications to that. I consider that a missing feature, so I think it is best that you add a bug report for that. In the mean time, Iâm sure you could hack something together that registers your application for notifications of the value holder that is in âselectionâ ;-) > On Jan 19, 2015, at 16:03, Mark Rizun <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Just tried, nope it doesn't work :) > > 2015-01-19 15:51 GMT+01:00 Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl <mailto:jfabry@dcc.uchile.cl>>: > > Iâm not sure that this is what you need, but have you tried changing the read selection block? ( TextModel>>readSelectionBlock: aBlock ) I would imagine that that is the block that is called when a selection is changed. > >> On Jan 19, 2015, at 15:20, Mark Rizun <mrizun(a)gmail.com <mailto:mrizun@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Ok, I see. That's not good, but thanks. >> However, TextModel has selection as instance variable, so maybe I could implement event that I need? ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Jan. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Hubcap questions

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

2015-01-19 15:07 GMT-03:00 Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl>: > HernÃ¡n wrote: > >My goal is to search the contents of the Description form field in > SmalltalkHub. > >I don't know if matches the design and idea of Hubcap (really nice > package BTW). > >I wonder if anyone (Torsten?) tried to download all package metadata > first and perform off-line search? > > What I did was take a look at mcx history and try to derive the latest > one, and then use the > Moose mczimporter to derive a list of signatures of (possibly) sent > messages. > The idea was to find out when packages change in a non-compatible way. > > Sorry Stephan, I wasn't clear enough. I want to search over SmalltalkHub projects metadata, not the Monticello metadata. When you click "Edit infos" in SmalltalkHub you see a web form with a "Description" field. That's the data I want to gather. I know it could be done with web scraping, the question is if someone tried to do it before. HernÃ¡n

Jan. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [Moose-dev] [Pharo-dev] OpenStreetMap integration

by Alexandre Bergel

Yes, I agree. This is on our todo. Cheers, Alexandre > On Jan 19, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > Hi Alex, > > I strongly believe that the concrete implementation that links Roassal to the data format should be moved to a separate package and ideally, to another configuration. > > The generic engine should be decoupled from concrete data sources. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > It should yes > > Roassal2 now depends on NeoJSON by the way. > > Alexandre > > > > On Jan 19, 2015, at 11:26 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > > > Is this in the latest moose 5.1 build ? > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Blitzkrieg!

by jtuchel＠objektfabrik.de

Sven, I got Richardâs message about ESUG and I asked for facts. It seems you didn't read my full postâ¦ Joachim Von: Sven Van Caekenberghe Gesendet: âMontagâ, â19â. âJanuarâ â2015 â19â:â17 An: Any question about pharo is welcome > On 19 Jan 2015, at 17:48, jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de wrote: > > All that's been said so far is that some people do not like the use of some military terms, no matter where they come from and whether people know what these mean or not. We are not on a crusade, and this is not about conquering anything or anybody. I am sorry, Joachim, but that is not true: he just said (ok, implicitly) that ESUG is worthless. And he said many more quite hurtful things by stating 'facts' or comparing (as equal or unequal) or rating different projects. Yes, since he wrote his first 'essay', it seems that he knows more or less what Smalltalk is, further than that I am sceptical.

Jan. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] InfoWorld on Redline Smalltalk

by Alain Rastoul

Le 19/01/2015 13:34, Marcus Denker a Ã©crit : > > We really need a âsmalltalk-talkâ mailing list. > > Marcus +1 other lists could be helpful pharo-vm : vm, vmmaker, compiler, plugins, whatever system level pharo-general : orientation of pharo, general open questions I don't think a chat is needed, self education and some mercy and comments on errors should do, people are overworked but not flaming would be nice ... because it burns ;) -- Regards, Alain

Jan. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] What we have with our community: near indestructible

by nacho

Great!! Great!! Kilon, Please let me help you, at least reading the drafts or whatever I can be usefull to. I'm eager to learn morphic!!! cheers Nacho ----- Nacho Smalltalker apprentice. Buenos Aires, Argentina. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/What-we-have-with-our-community-near-indestructible-t… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 19, 2015