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Re: [Pharo-users] pharo _looks_ good, but can be improved ...

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 25 Jan 2015, at 17:39, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > > > Am 25.01.2015 16:20 schrieb "Esteban Lorenzano" <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: > > > > But next year we will have an Athens based UI, so the performance will improve dramatically :) > > Yes? What? Bloc or morphic on top of athens ? > both > And what makes you think, Athens is fast er? > Athens directly in the screen (using SDL2) is faster (according all my experiments) you cannot perceive it now because a surface is mapped to a bitmap to be displayed with current bitbltâ¦ but we plan to move away from that :) > > Real problem is to invest time (and talent) to improve current design... It costs much more than you could believe. > > > > Esteban > > > > > > > > > On 25/1/2015, at 15:42, Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh(a)kathe.in <mailto:mayuresh@kathe.in>> wrote: > > > > > >> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 03:35:40PM +0100, Aliaksei Syrel wrote: > > >>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh(a)kathe.in <mailto:mayuresh@kathe.in>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> http://www.google.com/design/spec/material-design/introduction.html <http://www.google.com/design/spec/material-design/introduction.html> > > >> > > >> > > >> It is almost impossible to do it like this in Pharo now because of low > > >> drawing performance and bad support of animations. Sad but true. > > > > > > thanks for the note. > > > > > > per you, how long would this low drawing performance and bad support for > > > animations issue hold true? > > > > > > ~mayuresh > > > > > > > >

Jan. 25, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 25 Jan 2015, at 18:24, Sebastian Sastre <sebastian(a)flowingconcept.com> wrote: > > - the shared snippet page has a terrible design, the contrast issue is probably the most severe, being unclean the second one He Seb, I designed that years ago over a WE - you're right, I am really good at design ;-) It is just one page, do you care to propose a make over in concrete html/css. If you want I can try to give you access to the code that generates it (it is not open source as yet). Sven

Jan. 25, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Binary tree

by Sebastian Heidbrink

Here it is,... I new I saw this once. Maybe also this if you are looking for something particular. http://www.squeaksource.com/BTree.html On 2015-01-25 6:53 AM, Natalia Tymchuk wrote: > Hello, > > Is there any implementation of the binary tree in Pharo? > > Best reagards, > Natalia > > >

Jan. 25, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

by Sebastian Sastre

Itâs really nice to see innovation in this area. I feel grateful for this work. Here comes my UX notes Things I like: - Publish to the cloud - Able to copy-paste the content of the box with feedback - Encourages inspect of that very instance (this one was really good!) - transforms the printed result to comment. - clicking in the workspace makes the result disappear (good!) - full selects the comment after enter so a second enter can clean it - the shared snipped page has syntax highlight Things that I see can be improved: - the shared snippet page has a terrible design, the contrast issue is probably the most severe, being unclean the second one - the printed result transformed to comment gets injected at the cursor position and that functionality doesnât really make much sense (having it printed always at the end of the line you make more sense for example). - the inspect button doesnât look like a button and doesnât change the cursor on hover - No undo on cmd-z (this one feels like a deal-breaker) - The tab for me is a redundant feature with an unclean title (we have how to recall different workspaces from the bottom bar already) - The icon to publish to the cloud looks like download from the cloud (arrow points down instead of up) - The inspector is surprisingly complex and abuses the use of tabs - The inspector for Dictionary by default hides a naive observation of the object and assumes that a âsmartâ object aware presentation hiding behind a click the tree-like observation of instvars. - Also in inspector the icon for browse looks like a document, doesnât feel like a match good work! > On Jan 19, 2015, at 5:33 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > I worked with Andrei to find a solution for improving the print-it support. You can take a look here: > http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/improving-print-it-support-in-gtplayg… <http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/improving-print-it-support-in-gtplayg…> > > The current solution can be found in the latest Pharo image. > > Cheers, > Doru > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com/> > > "Every thing has its own flow"

Jan. 25, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Binary tree

by Sebastian Heidbrink

You may have a look here? http://www.eli.sdsu.edu/courses/spring02/cs635/notes/btree/btree.html On 2015-01-25 6:53 AM, Natalia Tymchuk wrote: > Hello, > > Is there any implementation of the binary tree in Pharo? > > Best reagards, > Natalia > > >

Jan. 25, 2015

Re: "Improper store into indexable object" and weird variable names

by Davide Varvello

I know, Stef, but actually I can't migrate to pharo 3. Probably the issue was caused by something deleted changes before a certain time even if I don't know what it was Cheers Davide stepharo wrote > Davide > > consider that Pharo 20 is around 2 years old and we massively improved > the system since then. > And that it can take you one afternoon probably to migrate to 3.0 (which > is also one year old). > > Stef -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Improper-store-into-indexable-object-and-weird-variab… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 25, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Binary tree

by Natalia Tymchuk

Thanks a lot, Phil. Regards, Natalia > On 25 Jan 2015, at 17:03, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > > I stored a package a while ago. > > http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~philippeback/Trees <http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~philippeback/Trees> > Phil > > Le 25 janv. 2015 15:53, "Natalia Tymchuk" <natalia.tymchuk(a)unikernel.net <mailto:natalia.tymchuk@unikernel.net>> a Ã©crit : > Hello, > > Is there any implementation of the binary tree in Pharo? > > Best reagards, > Natalia > > >

Jan. 25, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Sound of Silence

by Nicolai Hess

on what platform ? linux , mac or windows? 2015-01-25 17:55 GMT+01:00 Evan Donahue <emdonahu(a)gmail.com>: > Hello, > > I'm trying to get sounds working in Pharo and I seem to be unable to > locate a combination of PharoExtras/Sound and image/vm version that add up > to audible sound. > > The best I've done so far is pharo3/sound6.1, which lets me beep, and > write sounds to wav files, but the primitive for playing sounds fails > silently. The pharo4/sound6 combination seems not to have a SoundService > object that Beeper depends on, so I don't even get beeps. > > If anyone could help me figure out which version of what code is best > supported right now, or why the sound playing primitive is failing, it > would be most appreciated. > > Thank you, > Evan >

Jan. 25, 2015

Pharo Sound of Silence

by Evan Donahue

Hello, I'm trying to get sounds working in Pharo and I seem to be unable to locate a combination of PharoExtras/Sound and image/vm version that add up to audible sound. The best I've done so far is pharo3/sound6.1, which lets me beep, and write sounds to wav files, but the primitive for playing sounds fails silently. The pharo4/sound6 combination seems not to have a SoundService object that Beeper depends on, so I don't even get beeps. If anyone could help me figure out which version of what code is best supported right now, or why the sound playing primitive is failing, it would be most appreciated. Thank you, Evan

Jan. 25, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo _looks_ good, but can be improved ...

by Nicolai Hess

Am 25.01.2015 16:20 schrieb "Esteban Lorenzano" <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > > But next year we will have an Athens based UI, so the performance will improve dramatically :) Yes? What? Bloc or morphic on top of athens ? And what makes you think, Athens is fast er? > Real problem is to invest time (and talent) to improve current design... It costs much more than you could believe. > > Esteban > > > > > On 25/1/2015, at 15:42, Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh(a)kathe.in> wrote: > > > >> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 03:35:40PM +0100, Aliaksei Syrel wrote: > >>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh(a)kathe.in> wrote: > >>> > >>> http://www.google.com/design/spec/material-design/introduction.html > >> > >> > >> It is almost impossible to do it like this in Pharo now because of low > >> drawing performance and bad support of animations. Sad but true. > > > > thanks for the note. > > > > per you, how long would this low drawing performance and bad support for > > animations issue hold true? > > > > ~mayuresh > > > > >

Jan. 25, 2015