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Re: [Pharo-users] [IMPORTANT] Starting migration to Spur VM

by Cyril Ferlicot

You can use this: wget --quiet -O - get.pharo.org/$PHARO+$VM | bash at the beginng of your script to get the latest image and VM. With that you will have a spur image and a spur vm. And at the end: rm *.image *.changes rm -rf pharo-vm If there is still a problem I think it is a bug in Pharo with the migration. On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > > Guys, how should I adapt my CI job ? > >> On Dec 15, 2015, at 12:25, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >> >> >> Sorry for the stupid question, but how should I adapt my CI job? I saw that the last build failed with no tests being run, so I guess this was due to the VM being changed. >> >>> On Dec 14, 2015, at 07:24, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> 5) You will need to adapt your Pharo 5.0 related apps and CI processes (to take care about new VM). >> >> >> >> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >> >> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >> >> >> > > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > -- Cheers Cyril Ferlicot

Dec. 17, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [IMPORTANT] Starting migration to Spur VM

by Johan Fabry

Guys, how should I adapt my CI job ? > On Dec 15, 2015, at 12:25, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > > > Sorry for the stupid question, but how should I adapt my CI job? I saw that the last build failed with no tests being run, so I guess this was due to the VM being changed. > >> On Dec 14, 2015, at 07:24, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> 5) You will need to adapt your Pharo 5.0 related apps and CI processes (to take care about new VM). > > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Dec. 17, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Rocket Chat - An open source alternative to Slack

by Craig Johnson

The windows client is a b***h to work with. The channel list is very long and unordered, and there's no search. Craig On 2015/12/17 08:20 AM, John Pfersich wrote: > I set up a public #pharo channel. Join it! > > Sent from my iPad > > On Dec 16, 2015, at 02:04, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com > <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> So since Slack has been so successful for our community , far more >> that IRC has been in terms of participation and useful discussions >> (at least the 2 years I have been around) >> >> it made me wonder if I could find an open source alternative to Slack >> that is at least as good as it if not better without a very different >> workflow (so we have to learn everything from zero) all the big pros >> and something that could easily interface with Pharo. >> >> Ladies and gentlemen meet Rocket Chat >> >> https://rocket.chat/ >> >> The good news about Rocket chat is that it seems to have all the pros >> of Slack like close integration with tweeter, github etc etc . It has >> clients for all OS and mobile devices. But not the big cons like the >> 10.000 messages limit ( which we have long exceeded). Its open source >> and most importantly written in javascript and we know that pharo can >> interface with javascript in many diffirent ways . >> >> Hosted on Github and deployable with open source technologies. >> >> And even its license is MIT. >> >> The reviews I have read about it are very positive. >> >> So what do you think ?

Dec. 17, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Adieu, abschied, addio, despedida, afscheid, farvÃ¤l, Ð¿ÑÐ¾ÑÐ°Ð»ÑÐ½ÑÐ¹ Ð¿ÑÐ¸Ð²ÐµÑ.

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 17 Dec 2015, at 11:21, Richard Eng <horrido.hobbies(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I bid farewell to everyone. Best of luck to Pharo. > > https://medium.com/@richardeng/today-is-the-first-anniversary-of-smalltalk-… > > Cheers, > Richard Thanks for trying, you took on an impossible job (to promote a programming language full on). Your last message at the bottom would seem to suggest that we might hear from you again. Maybe you can find a smaller nice within our ecosystem to work on and contribute to. Sven

Dec. 17, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Adieu, abschied, addio, despedida, afscheid, farvÃ¤l, Ð¿ÑÐ¾ÑÐ°Ð»ÑÐ½ÑÐ¹ Ð¿ÑÐ¸Ð²ÐµÑ.

by Esteban Lorenzano

thanks for you efforts. > On 17 Dec 2015, at 11:21, Richard Eng <horrido.hobbies(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I bid farewell to everyone. Best of luck to Pharo. > > https://medium.com/@richardeng/today-is-the-first-anniversary-of-smalltalk-… <https://medium.com/@richardeng/today-is-the-first-anniversary-of-smalltalk-…> > > Cheers, > Richard

Dec. 17, 2015

What Strides In Pharo?

by horrido

Perhaps one of you can respond to this guy *at Reddit*. I'm not up with all the Pharo developments. He has used Pharo and he seems to be most displeased with it... https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/3wv7ik/who_uses_smalltalk/cy2… <https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/3wv7ik/who_uses_smalltalk/cy2…> "What strides? How about you write an article explaining that? I've used Pharo extensively and the biggest language-level change that has come about is slots. That's hardly a huge revolutionary change (it's also an exceptionally complex model for what it is!). The point releases of Python or Ruby, see bigger changes than this! [0] Now the Pharo guys have done a fantastic job cleaning up the image. But there's a long long way to go there, and there's the tiny fact that no available Smalltalk system bootstraps! Until that happens, and Smalltalk has a reasonable deployment model (writing scripts to strip objects from the image and crossing your fingers doesn't count!), it's hard to take even this clean up effort seriously. [0] The biggest changes in Smalltalk since Smalltalk 80 have been syntax for dynamic arrays, which nobody uses, because it's non-standard; Traits, which nobody uses, because it's non-standard, and the vendor specific syntax for dealing with packages. You can keep saying it until you're blue in the face but in comparison to just about every other language, these are not major changes! This is no "modernizing." -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/What-Strides-In-Pharo-tp4867485.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 17, 2015

Adieu, abschied, addio, despedida, afscheid, farvÃ¤l, Ð¿ÑÐ¾ÑÐ°Ð»ÑÐ½ÑÐ¹ Ð¿ÑÐ¸Ð²ÐµÑ.

by Richard Eng

I bid farewell to everyone. Best of luck to Pharo. https://medium.com/@richardeng/today-is-the-first-anniversary-of-smalltalk-… Cheers, Richard

Dec. 17, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Someone broke startup scripts on ubuntu

by Dimitris Chloupis

And the problem has been fixed, now my startup works fine. Thank you Esteban , you are awesome :) On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 4:06 PM Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > No problemo Esteban , take your time. We just reporting :) > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 3:41 PM Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> yes, you are using alpha, which means pharo 5.0, which means spur, which >> means it is still now working :) >> >> Esteban >> >> On 15 Dec 2015, at 11:14, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> I get my pharo on ubuntu 14 64 bit with >> >> cd Ephestos; wget -O- get.pharo.org/alpha+vmLatest | bash >> >> looks like startup scripts on ubuntu has been broken >> >> StartupPreferencesLoader preferencesGeneralFolder . >> >> returns nil, looking inside the method's source if I do >> >> FileLocator preferences asFileReference >> >> gives me a nice error Cant find the requested origin >> >> trying with >> >> cd Ephestos; wget -O- get.pharo.org/alpha+vm | bash >> >> for getting the stable default vm, same problem, so I assume this is an >> image problem >> >> here is the stack >> >> UnixResolver(PlatformResolver)>>cantFindOriginError [ self >> cantFindOriginError ] in >> UnixResolver(PlatformResolver)>>directoryFromEnvVariableNamed: in Block: [ >> self cantFindOriginError ] [ ^ aBlock value ] in >> UnixResolver(PlatformResolver)>>directoryFromEnvVariableNamed:or: in Block: >> [ ^ aBlock value ] BlockClosure>>cull: Context>>evaluateSignal: >> Context>>handleSignal: Error(Exception)>>signal Error(Exception)>>signal: >> Error class(Exception class)>>signal: FFICallout>>loaderForArgNamed: >> FFICallout>>loaderForArgNamed:indirectIndex: >> FFICallout>>argName:indirectIndex:type:ptrArity: >> FFIFunctionParser>>parseArgument FFIFunctionParser>>parseArguments >> FFIFunctionParser>>parseNamedFunction: >> FFICalloutMethodBuilder>>parseSignature: FFICalloutMethodBuilder>>generate >> FFICalloutMethodBuilder>>build: FFICalloutAPI>>function:module: >> UnixEnvironment(Object)>>ffiCall:module: >> UnixEnvironment(OSEnvironment)>>getEnv: >> UnixEnvironment(OSEnvironment)>>at:ifAbsent: [ Smalltalk os environment at: >> aString ifAbsent: [ nil ] ] in >> UnixResolver(PlatformResolver)>>directoryFromEnvVariableNamed:or: in Block: >> [ Smalltalk os environment at: aString ifAbsent: [...etc... >> BlockClosure>>on:do: >> UnixResolver(PlatformResolver)>>directoryFromEnvVariableNamed:or: >> UnixResolver(PlatformResolver)>>directoryFromEnvVariableNamed: >> UnixResolver>>home [ self home / '.config' ] in UnixResolver>>preferences >> in Block: [ self home / '.config' ] [ ^ aBlock value ] in >> UnixResolver(PlatformResolver)>>directoryFromEnvVariableNamed:or: in Block: >> [ ^ aBlock value ] BlockClosure>>cull: >> >> >>

Dec. 17, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Rocket Chat - An open source alternative to Slack

by Dimitris Chloupis

Where ? On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 at 08:21, John Pfersich <jpfersich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I set up a public #pharo channel. Join it! > > Sent from my iPad > > On Dec 16, 2015, at 02:04, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > So since Slack has been so successful for our community , far more that > IRC has been in terms of participation and useful discussions (at least the > 2 years I have been around) > > it made me wonder if I could find an open source alternative to Slack that > is at least as good as it if not better without a very different workflow > (so we have to learn everything from zero) all the big pros and something > that could easily interface with Pharo. > > Ladies and gentlemen meet Rocket Chat > > https://rocket.chat/ > > The good news about Rocket chat is that it seems to have all the pros of > Slack like close integration with tweeter, github etc etc . It has clients > for all OS and mobile devices. But not the big cons like the 10.000 > messages limit ( which we have long exceeded). Its open source and most > importantly written in javascript and we know that pharo can interface with > javascript in many diffirent ways . > > Hosted on Github and deployable with open source technologies. > > And even its license is MIT. > > The reviews I have read about it are very positive. > > So what do you think ? > >

Dec. 17, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Rocket Chat - An open source alternative to Slack

by John Pfersich

I set up a public #pharo channel. Join it! Sent from my iPad > On Dec 16, 2015, at 02:04, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > So since Slack has been so successful for our community , far more that IRC has been in terms of participation and useful discussions (at least the 2 years I have been around) > > it made me wonder if I could find an open source alternative to Slack that is at least as good as it if not better without a very different workflow (so we have to learn everything from zero) all the big pros and something that could easily interface with Pharo. > > Ladies and gentlemen meet Rocket Chat > > https://rocket.chat/ > > The good news about Rocket chat is that it seems to have all the pros of Slack like close integration with tweeter, github etc etc . It has clients for all OS and mobile devices. But not the big cons like the 10.000 messages limit ( which we have long exceeded). Its open source and most importantly written in javascript and we know that pharo can interface with javascript in many diffirent ways . > > Hosted on Github and deployable with open source technologies. > > And even its license is MIT. > > The reviews I have read about it are very positive. > > So what do you think ?

Dec. 17, 2015