Perhaps one of you can respond to this guy *at Reddit*. I'm not up with all the Pharo developments. He has used Pharo and he seems to be most displeased with it... https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/3wv7ik/who_uses_smalltalk/cy23... <https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/3wv7ik/who_uses_smalltalk/cy23...> "What strides? How about you write an article explaining that? I've used Pharo extensively and the biggest language-level change that has come about is slots. That's hardly a huge revolutionary change (it's also an exceptionally complex model for what it is!). The point releases of Python or Ruby, see bigger changes than this! [0] Now the Pharo guys have done a fantastic job cleaning up the image. But there's a long long way to go there, and there's the tiny fact that no available Smalltalk system bootstraps! Until that happens, and Smalltalk has a reasonable deployment model (writing scripts to strip objects from the image and crossing your fingers doesn't count!), it's hard to take even this clean up effort seriously. [0] The biggest changes in Smalltalk since Smalltalk 80 have been syntax for dynamic arrays, which nobody uses, because it's non-standard; Traits, which nobody uses, because it's non-standard, and the vendor specific syntax for dealing with packages. You can keep saying it until you're blue in the face but in comparison to just about every other language, these are not major changes! This is no "modernizing." -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/What-Strides-In-Pharo-tp4867485.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.