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Re: [Pharo-users] Google visibility?

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

so it is not a good idea for an open source project, as I feared. > On 13 Jan 2017, at 09:15, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > It eventually disappears , it keep the last 10.000 messages > > No it's not publicly visible quite the contrary , Slack prioritize privacy because it's meant to be used by teams working on commercial projects which are the ones more likely to pay for a slack subscription. > > If you want to search as a teams's history you need to gain access as a guest or a member , in both cases you will need an invite. So it makes little sense for Slack to give Google Acess to its teams history. > > If you as a team want to have unlimited messages then you will need to pay for the Slack subscription. > > Of course none can stop us from creating a bot that will copy the messages to an HTML website , that Google can search, hence lifting the 10k limit as well. Or even better commit those messages to a github repo that can be loaded as a project inside a Pharo image > On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 at 10:05, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > so it is not publicly available/visible/indexable ? > > so everything written there basically disappears ? > > > > > On 13 Jan 2017, at 09:01, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Slack encrypts the message history and it only stores 10.000 messages > > > > > > You could use the Slack search feature > > > > > > https://get.slack.help/hc/en-us/articles/202528808-Search-for-messages-and-… > > > > > > On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 at 08:40, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > > and slack is closed, right ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 13 Jan 2017, at 01:36, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Google already is capable on focusing on Pharo related websites. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The core of our documentation is located on 3 websites > > > > > > > > > > > > > > World.st , this sites includes a forum website for all the Smalltalk related mailing lists > > > > > > > Stackoverflow, Pharo has its own tag and a ton of answered questions > > > > > > > Github.com, here are located all the Pharo books > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So to search all documentation about Spec on only these 3 websites you use the following search query > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pharo spec site:world.st OR site:stackoverflow.com OR site:github.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are other ways to customize a google search query , please look at google search documentation > > > > > > > On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 at 11:38, Siemen Baader <siemenbaader(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Has anybody looked into SEO'ing any of the great documentation and archived questions on the mailing list? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It strikes me that I often can't find the answer to questions I have on Google, but they are often answered in material that I can find when I look manually for some time or am pointed at it by an experienced member of the community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also miss Pharo - content on Stackoverflow, it is a very efficient way to get past road blocks quickly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any thoughts or history to bring me up to speed with? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > > Siemen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Jan. 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Google visibility?

by Dimitris Chloupis

It eventually disappears , it keep the last 10.000 messages No it's not publicly visible quite the contrary , Slack prioritize privacy because it's meant to be used by teams working on commercial projects which are the ones more likely to pay for a slack subscription. If you want to search as a teams's history you need to gain access as a guest or a member , in both cases you will need an invite. So it makes little sense for Slack to give Google Acess to its teams history. If you as a team want to have unlimited messages then you will need to pay for the Slack subscription. Of course none can stop us from creating a bot that will copy the messages to an HTML website , that Google can search, hence lifting the 10k limit as well. Or even better commit those messages to a github repo that can be loaded as a project inside a Pharo image On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 at 10:05, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > so it is not publicly available/visible/indexable ? > > so everything written there basically disappears ? > > > > > On 13 Jan 2017, at 09:01, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > Slack encrypts the message history and it only stores 10.000 messages > > > > > > You could use the Slack search feature > > > > > > > https://get.slack.help/hc/en-us/articles/202528808-Search-for-messages-and-… > > > > > > On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 at 08:40, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> > wrote: > > > and slack is closed, right ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 13 Jan 2017, at 01:36, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Google already is capable on focusing on Pharo related websites. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The core of our documentation is located on 3 websites > > > > > > > > > > > > > > World.st , this sites includes a forum website for all the Smalltalk > related mailing lists > > > > > > > Stackoverflow, Pharo has its own tag and a ton of answered questions > > > > > > > Github.com, here are located all the Pharo books > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So to search all documentation about Spec on only these 3 websites you > use the following search query > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pharo spec site:world.st OR site:stackoverflow.com OR site:github.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are other ways to customize a google search query , please look > at google search documentation > > > > > > > On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 at 11:38, Siemen Baader <siemenbaader(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > Has anybody looked into SEO'ing any of the great documentation and > archived questions on the mailing list? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It strikes me that I often can't find the answer to questions I have > on Google, but they are often answered in material that I can find when I > look manually for some time or am pointed at it by an experienced member of > the community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also miss Pharo - content on Stackoverflow, it is a very efficient > way to get past road blocks quickly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any thoughts or history to bring me up to speed with? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > > Siemen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Jan. 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Google visibility?

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

so it is not publicly available/visible/indexable ? so everything written there basically disappears ? > On 13 Jan 2017, at 09:01, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Slack encrypts the message history and it only stores 10.000 messages > > You could use the Slack search feature > > https://get.slack.help/hc/en-us/articles/202528808-Search-for-messages-and-… > > On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 at 08:40, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > and slack is closed, right ? > > > > > On 13 Jan 2017, at 01:36, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Google already is capable on focusing on Pharo related websites. > > > > > > The core of our documentation is located on 3 websites > > > > > > World.st , this sites includes a forum website for all the Smalltalk related mailing lists > > > Stackoverflow, Pharo has its own tag and a ton of answered questions > > > Github.com, here are located all the Pharo books > > > > > > So to search all documentation about Spec on only these 3 websites you use the following search query > > > > > > pharo spec site:world.st OR site:stackoverflow.com OR site:github.com > > > > > > There are other ways to customize a google search query , please look at google search documentation > > > On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 at 11:38, Siemen Baader <siemenbaader(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Has anybody looked into SEO'ing any of the great documentation and archived questions on the mailing list? > > > > > > It strikes me that I often can't find the answer to questions I have on Google, but they are often answered in material that I can find when I look manually for some time or am pointed at it by an experienced member of the community. > > > > > > I also miss Pharo - content on Stackoverflow, it is a very efficient way to get past road blocks quickly. > > > > > > Any thoughts or history to bring me up to speed with? > > > > > > cheers, > > > Siemen > > > > >

Jan. 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Google visibility?

by Dimitris Chloupis

Slack encrypts the message history and it only stores 10.000 messages You could use the Slack search feature https://get.slack.help/hc/en-us/articles/202528808-Search-for-messages-and-… On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 at 08:40, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > and slack is closed, right ? > > > > > On 13 Jan 2017, at 01:36, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > Google already is capable on focusing on Pharo related websites. > > > > > > The core of our documentation is located on 3 websites > > > > > > World.st , this sites includes a forum website for all the Smalltalk > related mailing lists > > > Stackoverflow, Pharo has its own tag and a ton of answered questions > > > Github.com, here are located all the Pharo books > > > > > > So to search all documentation about Spec on only these 3 websites you > use the following search query > > > > > > pharo spec site:world.st OR site:stackoverflow.com OR site:github.com > > > > > > There are other ways to customize a google search query , please look at > google search documentation > > > On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 at 11:38, Siemen Baader <siemenbaader(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Has anybody looked into SEO'ing any of the great documentation and > archived questions on the mailing list? > > > > > > It strikes me that I often can't find the answer to questions I have on > Google, but they are often answered in material that I can find when I look > manually for some time or am pointed at it by an experienced member of the > community. > > > > > > I also miss Pharo - content on Stackoverflow, it is a very efficient > way to get past road blocks quickly. > > > > > > Any thoughts or history to bring me up to speed with? > > > > > > cheers, > > > Siemen > > > > > >

Jan. 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Google visibility?

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

and slack is closed, right ? > On 13 Jan 2017, at 01:36, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Google already is capable on focusing on Pharo related websites. > > The core of our documentation is located on 3 websites > > World.st , this sites includes a forum website for all the Smalltalk related mailing lists > Stackoverflow, Pharo has its own tag and a ton of answered questions > Github.com, here are located all the Pharo books > > So to search all documentation about Spec on only these 3 websites you use the following search query > > pharo spec site:world.st OR site:stackoverflow.com OR site:github.com > > There are other ways to customize a google search query , please look at google search documentation > On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 at 11:38, Siemen Baader <siemenbaader(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Has anybody looked into SEO'ing any of the great documentation and archived questions on the mailing list? > > It strikes me that I often can't find the answer to questions I have on Google, but they are often answered in material that I can find when I look manually for some time or am pointed at it by an experienced member of the community. > > I also miss Pharo - content on Stackoverflow, it is a very efficient way to get past road blocks quickly. > > Any thoughts or history to bring me up to speed with? > > cheers, > Siemen

Jan. 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Google visibility?

by Dimitris Chloupis

Google already is capable on focusing on Pharo related websites. The core of our documentation is located on 3 websites World.st , this sites includes a forum website for all the Smalltalk related mailing lists Stackoverflow, Pharo has its own tag and a ton of answered questions Github.com, here are located all the Pharo books So to search all documentation about Spec on only these 3 websites you use the following search query pharo spec site:world.st OR site:stackoverflow.com OR site:github.com There are other ways to customize a google search query , please look at google search documentation On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 at 11:38, Siemen Baader <siemenbaader(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Has anybody looked into SEO'ing any of the great documentation and > archived questions on the mailing list? > > It strikes me that I often can't find the answer to questions I have on > Google, but they are often answered in material that I can find when I look > manually for some time or am pointed at it by an experienced member of the > community. > > I also miss Pharo - content on Stackoverflow, it is a very efficient way > to get past road blocks quickly. > > Any thoughts or history to bring me up to speed with? > > cheers, > Siemen >

Jan. 13, 2017

Google visibility?

by Siemen Baader

Has anybody looked into SEO'ing any of the great documentation and archived questions on the mailing list? It strikes me that I often can't find the answer to questions I have on Google, but they are often answered in material that I can find when I look manually for some time or am pointed at it by an experienced member of the community. I also miss Pharo - content on Stackoverflow, it is a very efficient way to get past road blocks quickly. Any thoughts or history to bring me up to speed with? cheers, Siemen

Jan. 12, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] making scroll smooth

by Siemen Baader

Thanks - I did it and it seems (also from the docs) to affect the framerate, not the discrete scroll-behaviour. Nautilus panels scroll by ca. one line height, I want them to scroll continously, by one pixel only at a time.. -- Siemen On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 6:16 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > Try this: > > WorldState MinCycleLapse: 16. > > Should make things better. > > Phil > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 5:40 PM, Siemen Baader <siemenbaader(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I'm used to and like the smooth scrolling of modern browsers and OS'es >> and miss it in Pharo. It as discrete scroll deltas; when I scroll it moves >> the window content by several pixels or not at all if the movement is below >> a certain threshold. How can I enable smooth scroll / set that threshold to >> 1px? And how could I learn if I did not ask on the list? >> >> thanks, >> Siemen >> > >

Jan. 11, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Call of projects of open-dev lectures

by Cyril Ferlicot D.

On 04/01/2017 15:48, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > Hi > > We are organising a lecture where students should > - learn pharo > - learn how to communicate with open source community > - learn how to reverse engineer, fix bugs.... > They should work by 3/4. > > We are looking for projects that would like to accept > - propose some bugs to be fixed > - to communicate with newbies and from time to time > > I was thinking about > - MDL > - Roassal > - Moose ? > - Pillar ? but nobody beside me and I do not have the time > - DRGeoII > - Telescope > - Artefact > - Scale > - Ecstatic > > So if you have a project and you want to participate. > We would like to have > - web page? > - mailing-list > - bug trackers/todo? > > Stef Hi Stef, I updated MDL to be up to date. I just need to add a "CONTRIBUTING.md" file and it should be good for students. - WebPage: For now it is https://github.com/DuneSt/MaterialDesignLite - Mailing list: Pharo-user or Seaside - Bug Tracker: https://github.com/DuneSt/MaterialDesignLite/issues I still need to think of some features suitable for L3 students and to document them. I begun to add an OpenDev label if some students are interested: https://github.com/DuneSt/MaterialDesignLite/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+… -- Cyril Ferlicot http://www.synectique.eu 2 rue Jacques PrÃ©vert 01, 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France

Jan. 11, 2017

Pharo Days 2017: Date?

by Marcus Denker

We checked which dates would make senseâ¦ the idea would be to do it after the release of Pharo6. For the place we are checking Lille, we can get some support from Inria/the University for doing a small event like this. The best here is April, either before or after school holidays. To know if this makes any sense, we have set up a doodle: http://doodle.com/poll/f8n5zhv7p8fqwyih Marcus

Jan. 11, 2017