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Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Launcher

by Sebastian Heidbrink

Hey Marten, I have the same system and I encountered similar issues. Search your folders of debug logs. Sometimes the launcher expects the image an a different path, or a sources file was unzipped into the wrong folder, or the extracted files of vms or images have the wrong read write access. I will check my system for changes that I might have done to the system and sent them to you. In general it should work on Linux Mint. I use it regularly. Sebastian Am 15.04.2018 um 12:23 schrieb Marten Feldtmann: > After a long time I wanted to have a look at the current Pharo situation. > > I just downloaded the Linux 64bit version of Pharo from the web site: > > -> I opened "pharo" (via a double click on the pharo application) and > got a list of possible templates I could load. > > -> I selected Pharo 6.1 template, created an image and wanted to start > that image - the initial application disappeared - but nothing happened > after that. > > If I start the initial pharo app from a shell by hand and I want to > start the selected image it seems to work. > > My system: Linux Mint 18.1, 64 bit > > > >

April 15, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Where do we go now ?

by Benoit St-Jean

"As a work around, in the PharoLauncher settings can you set the directories likeÂ C:\PharoLauncher\imagesC:\PharoLaucnher\vmsand report if that helps.Â " Or even better, let the user decide! ----------------- BenoÃ®t St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Twitter: @BenLeChialeux Pinterest: benoitstjean Instagram: Chef_Benito IRC: lamneth Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero".Â (A. Einstein) On Sunday, April 15, 2018, 12:58:44 a.m. EDT, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: On 13 April 2018 at 17:49, Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-users <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From:Â Benoit St-Jean <bstjean(a)yahoo.com> To:Â Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Cc:Â Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> Bcc:Â Date:Â Fri, 13 Apr 2018 09:49:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject:Â Re: [Pharo-users] Where do we go now ? For those interested. Created the issues 21686, 21693, 21695, 21696. And more to come... Thanks for those.Â I don't much time right to devote, but managed to knock one off.And I learn't something new.Â I'd not known there was a setting for screen background. The other ones seem related to a problem dealing with user home folders containing non-ascii characters.Currently this seems only to affect a small number of people, but is a show stopper for them,and the numbers will grow with our hoped for growing popularity. As a work around, in the PharoLauncher settings can you set the directories likeÂ C:\PharoLauncher\imagesC:\PharoLaucnher\vmsand report if that helps.Â Â Note, I bumped into an issue changing that setting myself recently where it tries to migrateÂ the existing images from the old to the new folder, causing a catch-22 when your tryingto do that to work around other problems.Â To work around that, I had to scrollÂ down the debug stack to find where the migration was iterating through the image folders,and short circuit that with "Return entered value" from the context menu.Â Any valuewill do when the return value is not used.Â good luck. @PharoLauncher maintainers, can the change in this setting be made to succeed even if the migration fails.(I need to run right now) cheers -ben

April 15, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Launcher

by Benoit St-Jean

I looked for it : isn't there. ----------------- BenoÃ®t St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Twitter: @BenLeChialeux Pinterest: benoitstjean Instagram: Chef_Benito IRC: lamneth Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero".Â (A. Einstein) On Sunday, April 15, 2018, 3:01:30 p.m. EDT, Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu> wrote: Can you make a search for your PharoDebug.log, because I can see, at least on P7 and Linux, this file is not always located nearby the image but at the user root directory. Hilaire Le 15/04/2018 Ã 20:52, Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-users a Ã©critÂ : > Downloaded it.Â Installed it.Â Started it.Â Selected an image.Â Bam.Â > The app vanished. > > Also tried on a > brand-new-and-fresh-Windows-10-machine-with-nothing-previously-installed > and same thing. > > The app doesn't even show in the task manager. > > And no error file was created. > -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

April 15, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Launcher

by Marten Feldtmann

After a long time I wanted to have a look at the current Pharo situation. I just downloaded the Linux 64bit version of Pharo from the web site: -> I opened "pharo" (via a double click on the pharo application) and got a list of possible templates I could load. -> I selected Pharo 6.1 template, created an image and wanted to start that image - the initial application disappeared - but nothing happened after that. If I start the initial pharo app from a shell by hand and I want to start the selected image it seems to work. My system: Linux Mint 18.1, 64 bit -- Marten Feldtmann

April 15, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Where do we go now ?

by Benoit St-Jean

"I find NPM as obscure as Pharo, honestly, and VA Smalltalk is worse (wth does abt or sst stand for?). Â Grunt, Gulp, etc., how do the names relate to what they do?Â " iirc, Abt was for "Application Builder Toolkit", Cw was for "Common Widgets", "Cfs was for "Common File System", Sst was for "Server Smalltalk", etc.Â There used to be a list of VAST prefixes on the IBM website but I couldn't find it... ----------------- BenoÃ®t St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Twitter: @BenLeChialeux Pinterest: benoitstjean Instagram: Chef_Benito IRC: lamneth Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero".Â (A. Einstein)

April 15, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Launcher

by Hilaire

Can you make a search for your PharoDebug.log, because I can see, at least on P7 and Linux, this file is not always located nearby the image but at the user root directory. Hilaire Le 15/04/2018 Ã 20:52, Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-users a Ã©critÂ : > Downloaded it.Â Installed it.Â Started it.Â Selected an image.Â Bam.Â > The app vanished. > > Also tried on a > brand-new-and-fresh-Windows-10-machine-with-nothing-previously-installed > and same thing. > > The app doesn't even show in the task manager. > > And no error file was created. > -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

April 15, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Where do we go now ?

by Benoit St-Jean

"At some point we should force rule "All packages have comments". And indication with icon like we do for classes." Â +1 ----------------- BenoÃ®t St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Twitter: @BenLeChialeux Pinterest: benoitstjean Instagram: Chef_Benito IRC: lamneth Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero".Â (A. Einstein)

April 15, 2018

Re: RE: [Pharo-users] Where do we go now ?

by Benoit St-Jean

OS/2 ?Â What???Â Is it free/openSource?Â Man!Â Where can I get that!!!Â Good memories!!!! ----------------- BenoÃ®t St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Twitter: @BenLeChialeux Pinterest: benoitstjean Instagram: Chef_Benito IRC: lamneth Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero".Â (A. Einstein) On Friday, April 13, 2018, 6:57:16 a.m. EDT, <aglynn42(a)gmail.com> wrote: Btw, in my fascination with messing around, the 32 bit version of Pharo 7 for Windows runs better on OS/2 v.5 (yes, it still exists, it was released last June).Â Probably because its Win32 subsystem is more compatible with Win32 apps than Windows 10. Â Andrew Â From: Benoit St-Jean <bstjean(a)yahoo.com> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 5:26 AM To: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Cc: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Where do we go now ? Â BTW, why put an .exe installer for Windows available when it crashes right from the start? It just doesn't work at all.Â Period.Â For everyone. Â And I thought looking for senders of a method was something we mastered a long time ago, like starting with Smalltalk-76.Â Am I supposed to assume that everything, even basic functionalities, are all broken because it's labeled "alpha" ? Â Â ----------------- BenoÃ®t St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Twitter: @BenLeChialeux Pinterest: benoitstjean Instagram: Chef_Benito IRC: lamneth Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero".Â (A. Einstein) Â Â On Friday, April 13, 2018, 5:20:28 a.m. EDT, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: Â Â Â On 13 Apr 2018, at 11:07, Benoit St-Jean <bstjean(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Â I'm on Windows 10, using Pharo 7.0 alpha 32 bit. Â Â and btwâ¦ which part of ALPHA you do not get? Â Esteban

April 15, 2018

Pharo Launcher

by Benoit St-Jean

"To be clear, the problem was heavily influenced by the constraints of an external tool.Get PharoLauncher installed in the right location and it works like a dream.Did you try the proof-of-concept installer I posted previously to the list...Â http://www.mediafire.com/file/3g579bmzqspt8e1/BCPharoLauncher.msi " Downloaded it.Â Installed it.Â Started it.Â Selected an image.Â Bam.Â The app vanished. Also tried on a brand-new-and-fresh-Windows-10-machine-with-nothing-previously-installed and same thing. The app doesn't even show in the task manager. And no error file was created. If that helps, both machines have Windows in French installed. ----------------- BenoÃ®t St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Twitter: @BenLeChialeux Pinterest: benoitstjean Instagram: Chef_Benito IRC: lamneth Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero".Â (A. Einstein)

April 15, 2018

Playground and Smalltalk script

by Hilaire

Hi, Same question asked there http://forum.world.st/Pharo-4-Playground-open-file-menu-tt4823334.html. I tried to follow the suggested solutions: 1) Following article: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/managing-external-pharo-scripts-with-… Accessing to DrGeo SmalltalkScripts folder from Spotter, it works when the user input ../../SmalltalkScripts. As it is not a discoverable features for the user, I want to add a menu entry in the world menu to open Spotter with path ../../SmalltalkScripts already set. I tried: Â GTSpotterMorph new Â Â Â Â Â Â extent: 400@500; Â Â Â Â Â Â doLayout; Â Â Â Â Â Â spotterModel: (GTSpotter on:DrGDefault mySketchesPath parent / 'SmalltalkSketches' ); Â Â Â Â Â Â openCenteredInWorld (Btw, the descriptions in the Settings browser concerning Spotter are still broken.) When dive-in the display script is empty, any idea? I have to Enter to get it seens in an inspector. Moreoever I see one minor issue: Spotter looks at relative path relatively from the folder where the image was built not from where it is runned. Note: FileBrowser properly open relatively to the path where it is runned. 2) I tried the complementary approach with play-cache, I edited in the setting browser the play cache path to DrGeo SmalltalkScripts. Now when I edit some new scripts in the Playground, I can rename it and it is saved in the SmalltalkScripts. Now when exploring, the SmalltalkScripts, there are several additionnal file not meaning full for the enduser. Is there a way for Playground to only save one file as pageName.st? An interesting option will be for me to add two menu entries in GTPlayground to load/save script. Is it possible? It will make the user experience a bit easier. Thanks Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

April 15, 2018