September 2016 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] Why Pharo?

by stepharo

Really nice Le 25/9/16 Ã 14:07, Stephan Eggermont a Ã©crit : > I finally found the time to put the slides and narrative together > > https://medium.com/@stephan_32833/pharo-50c66685913c#.jeou548z7 > > Stephan > > >

Sept. 26, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Mustache templates listed the in Mustache site

by stepharo

superb :) Le 26/9/16 Ã 16:28, Esteban A. Maringolo a Ã©crit : > Some months ago I sent a pull request [1] to add Smalltalk/Pharo to > the list of supported languages in Mustache home page > <http://mustache.github.io/>. > > Took some time but now it is in the front page. > > Thank you Norbert Hartl for this useful library. > > Regards! > > Esteban A. Maringolo > > [1] https://github.com/mustache/mustache.github.com/pull/77

Sept. 26, 2016

Amazon drive API's for Pharo ?

by CÃ©drick BÃ©ler

Hi all, Iâve just seen that the unlimited offer that Amazon proposes for its drive is now available in France. !! Itâs 70â¬/year so quite cheapâ¦ Do people know if there are pharo packages to uses its RESTful API ? https://developer.amazon.com/public/apis/experience/cloud-drive/content/res… TIA (Iâll investigate deeper shortly), CÃ©drik

Sept. 26, 2016

Mustache templates listed the in Mustache site

by Esteban A. Maringolo

Some months ago I sent a pull request [1] to add Smalltalk/Pharo to the list of supported languages in Mustache home page < http://mustache.github.io/>. Took some time but now it is in the front page. Thank you Norbert Hartl for this useful library. Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo [1] https://github.com/mustache/mustache.github.com/pull/77

Sept. 26, 2016

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by Alexandre Bergel

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Sept. 26, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Get implementors list window from Spotter

by Ben Coman

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 4:07 PM, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 2:00 AM, Esteban A. Maringolo > <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> How can I open the implementors list from Spotter? >> >> I want to browse through the code of the different implementors as I >> do by selecting a selector and searching an implementor (or Ctr+M). >> >> Regards, >> >> Esteban A. Maringolo >> > > > What might be good is next to the <Show All> button, there was a > button that opened the old ImplementsOf dialog. I meant to add, in practice what I find happened is that I use Spotter to do initial search for implementors, then I randomly select onne of the so that I can do ctrl-M to get to the ImplementorsOf dialog. It would be nice to skip that intermediate step. > > cheers -ben

Sept. 26, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Get implementors list window from Spotter

by Ben Coman

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 2:00 AM, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > How can I open the implementors list from Spotter? > > I want to browse through the code of the different implementors as I > do by selecting a selector and searching an implementor (or Ctr+M). > > Regards, > > Esteban A. Maringolo > What might be good is next to the <Show All> button, there was a button that opened the old ImplementsOf dialog. cheers -ben

Sept. 26, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Why Pharo?

by Dimitris Chloupis

Ah I missed that, I stand corrected. Still not surprising. On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 7:27 PM Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Hi, > > > On Sep 25, 2016, at 6:16 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > yes all I did is to open the sources file in a text editor and see which > one was the last line, that means it includes empty lines too. So 500k > sound normal to me. > > > > Personally as a user I rarely care about the size because I rarely care > to modify the existing image . For me its more important to have more > features that make my work easier. > > > > Also bare in mind in case of Ruby as with Python, that there is A LOT of > C involved which is a very verbose language and of course that includes VM > and low level parts that in the case of Pharo are not included in the image. > > I only counted the rb files, not the C ones (see the script) :) > > Doru > > > > > On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 4:46 PM Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > On Sep 25, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > Totally agree with the slides apart from "Pharo is Small" , the syntax > may be but the whole environment last time I checked was 700k lines of code > > > which is huge for a dynamic language. Of course that is far from bad > at least for me, I love powerful environments over minimal solutions. > > > > > > Just for reference, Pharo 5 has: > > Smalltalk allClasses sumNumbers: #linesOfCode â515500" > > > > This is still a lot, but we should compare against a language + IDE + > compiler + collections + version management system + project dependency > system + several significant other libraries. This might turn out to be > quite small in the end :). > > > > But, one thing I would stress is that "Pharo is Uniformâ. This is what > in the end makes it seem âSmallâ. > > > > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > > > > > > You reminded me that I neeed to update my "Why Pharo" video :) > > > > > > Great work > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 2:43 PM Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> > wrote: > > > Hi Stephan, > > > > > > > On 25 Sep 2016, at 13:07, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> > wrote: > > > > > > > > I finally found the time to put the slides and narrative together > > > > > > > > https://medium.com/@stephan_32833/pharo-50c66685913c#.jeou548z7 > > > > > > > > Stephan > > > > > > Great article, super cool slides, well done. I especially appreciate > how you guys managed to make so many good points in such a deceptively > simple and clear text â that takes a lot of work. > > > > > > Any chance you would like to submit it too 'Concerning Pharo' > publication [https://medium.com/concerning-pharo] ? Just send a > submission and I would love to add it. > > > > > > Sven > > > > > > > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > www.feenk.com > > > > "If you can't say why something is relevant, > > it probably isn't." > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > "There are no old things, there are only old ways of looking at them." > > > > > >

Sept. 25, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Why Pharo?

by Tudor Girba

Hi, > On Sep 25, 2016, at 6:16 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > yes all I did is to open the sources file in a text editor and see which one was the last line, that means it includes empty lines too. So 500k sound normal to me. > > Personally as a user I rarely care about the size because I rarely care to modify the existing image . For me its more important to have more features that make my work easier. > > Also bare in mind in case of Ruby as with Python, that there is A LOT of C involved which is a very verbose language and of course that includes VM and low level parts that in the case of Pharo are not included in the image. I only counted the rb files, not the C ones (see the script) :) Doru > On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 4:46 PM Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Hi, > > > On Sep 25, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Totally agree with the slides apart from "Pharo is Small" , the syntax may be but the whole environment last time I checked was 700k lines of code > > which is huge for a dynamic language. Of course that is far from bad at least for me, I love powerful environments over minimal solutions. > > > Just for reference, Pharo 5 has: > Smalltalk allClasses sumNumbers: #linesOfCode â515500" > > This is still a lot, but we should compare against a language + IDE + compiler + collections + version management system + project dependency system + several significant other libraries. This might turn out to be quite small in the end :). > > But, one thing I would stress is that "Pharo is Uniformâ. This is what in the end makes it seem âSmallâ. > > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > > You reminded me that I neeed to update my "Why Pharo" video :) > > > > Great work > > > > On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 2:43 PM Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > Hi Stephan, > > > > > On 25 Sep 2016, at 13:07, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > > > > > > I finally found the time to put the slides and narrative together > > > > > > https://medium.com/@stephan_32833/pharo-50c66685913c#.jeou548z7 > > > > > > Stephan > > > > Great article, super cool slides, well done. I especially appreciate how you guys managed to make so many good points in such a deceptively simple and clear textâââthat takes a lot of work. > > > > Any chance you would like to submit it too 'Concerning Pharo' publication [https://medium.com/concerning-pharo] ? Just send a submission and I would love to add it. > > > > Sven > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > "If you can't say why something is relevant, > it probably isn't." > > -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "There are no old things, there are only old ways of looking at them."

Sept. 25, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Why Pharo?

by Dimitris Chloupis

Wow I am surprised C++ is so popular "* The larger the code base, the less contributors and activity." sounds reasonable but I will assume here that larger code base means more users since its more likely to have more features. But for contributing to code yeah people tend to avoid complex projects, obviously its far easier to contribute in something much simpler. However large size is an inevitable outcome you can only postpone it with clean ups unless of course the project dies in the process. On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 5:46 PM Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > Slides 5, 8-10 provide an interesting perspective on project size > http://www.slideshare.net/blackducksoftware/open-source-by-the-numbers > > and interesting conclusions on slide 17 > * The larger the code base, the less contributors and activity. > * The "most likely to succeed" -- are still small enough for people > joining them to have an impact. > > where <1MLOC seems fine, and also the accessibility of whole system > makes it easier for people to have an impact. > > cheers -ben > > > On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 9:45 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > > >> On Sep 25, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Totally agree with the slides apart from "Pharo is Small" , the syntax > may be but the whole environment last time I checked was 700k lines of code > >> which is huge for a dynamic language. Of course that is far from bad at > least for me, I love powerful environments over minimal solutions. > > > > > > Just for reference, Pharo 5 has: > > Smalltalk allClasses sumNumbers: #linesOfCode â515500" > > > > This is still a lot, but we should compare against a language + IDE + > compiler + collections + version management system + project dependency > system + several significant other libraries. This might turn out to be > quite small in the end :). > > > > But, one thing I would stress is that "Pharo is Uniformâ. This is what > in the end makes it seem âSmallâ. > > > > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > > > > >> You reminded me that I neeed to update my "Why Pharo" video :) > >> > >> Great work > >> > >> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 2:43 PM Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> > wrote: > >> Hi Stephan, > >> > >> > On 25 Sep 2016, at 13:07, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > >> > > >> > I finally found the time to put the slides and narrative together > >> > > >> > https://medium.com/@stephan_32833/pharo-50c66685913c#.jeou548z7 > >> > > >> > Stephan > >> > >> Great article, super cool slides, well done. I especially appreciate > how you guys managed to make so many good points in such a deceptively > simple and clear text â that takes a lot of work. > >> > >> Any chance you would like to submit it too 'Concerning Pharo' > publication [https://medium.com/concerning-pharo] ? Just send a > submission and I would love to add it. > >> > >> Sven > >> > >> > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > www.feenk.com > > > > "If you can't say why something is relevant, > > it probably isn't." > > > > > >

Sept. 25, 2016