Hi,
On Sep 25, 2016, at 6:16 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
yes all I did is to open the sources file in a text editor and see which one was the last line, that means it includes empty lines too. So 500k sound normal to me.
Personally as a user I rarely care about the size because I rarely care to modify the existing image . For me its more important to have more features that make my work easier.
Also bare in mind in case of Ruby as with Python, that there is A LOT of C involved which is a very verbose language and of course that includes VM and low level parts that in the case of Pharo are not included in the image.
I only counted the rb files, not the C ones (see the script) :) Doru
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 4:46 PM Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote: Hi,
On Sep 25, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
Totally agree with the slides apart from "Pharo is Small" , the syntax may be but the whole environment last time I checked was 700k lines of code which is huge for a dynamic language. Of course that is far from bad at least for me, I love powerful environments over minimal solutions.
Just for reference, Pharo 5 has: Smalltalk allClasses sumNumbers: #linesOfCode â515500"
This is still a lot, but we should compare against a language + IDE + compiler + collections + version management system + project dependency system + several significant other libraries. This might turn out to be quite small in the end :).
But, one thing I would stress is that "Pharo is Uniformâ. This is what in the end makes it seem âSmallâ.
Cheers, Doru
You reminded me that I neeed to update my "Why Pharo" video :)
Great work
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 2:43 PM Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> wrote: Hi Stephan,
On 25 Sep 2016, at 13:07, Stephan Eggermont <stephan@stack.nl> wrote:
I finally found the time to put the slides and narrative together
https://medium.com/@stephan_32833/pharo-50c66685913c#.jeou548z7
Stephan
Great article, super cool slides, well done. I especially appreciate how you guys managed to make so many good points in such a deceptively simple and clear textâââthat takes a lot of work.
Any chance you would like to submit it too 'Concerning Pharo' publication [https://medium.com/concerning-pharo] ? Just send a submission and I would love to add it.
Sven
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