April 2015 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] RPackage extension methods using normal protocol names

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 30 Apr 2015, at 17:07, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > >> On 30 Apr 2015, at 16:44, Ben Coman <btc(a)openInWorld.com <mailto:btc@openInWorld.com>> wrote: >> >> I saw recently how VisualWorks extensions use normal protocol names >> http://ia902605.us.archive.org/25/items/St4u181ClassExtensionsInVisualworks… <http://ia902605.us.archive.org/25/items/St4u181ClassExtensionsInVisualworks…> >> >> Now that Pharo has got real package objects with RPackage, how possible is the VW convention? It would facilitate porting code. >> > > I would like toâ¦ the * is really not nice. > But we have a really long TODO already. yesâ¦ it was (and it is) in our TODO. Sadly there are things with more priority now :( Esteban > > Marcus >

April 30, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] RPackage extension methods using normal protocol names

by Marcus Denker

> On 30 Apr 2015, at 16:44, Ben Coman <btc(a)openInWorld.com> wrote: > > I saw recently how VisualWorks extensions use normal protocol names > http://ia902605.us.archive.org/25/items/St4u181ClassExtensionsInVisualworks… <http://ia902605.us.archive.org/25/items/St4u181ClassExtensionsInVisualworks…> > > Now that Pharo has got real package objects with RPackage, how possible is the VW convention? It would facilitate porting code. > I would like toâ¦ the * is really not nice. But we have a really long TODO already. Marcus

April 30, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] MagicMagritte in Pharo 40.

by stepharo

Great I should still look at magic magritte :) holidays are good Stef Le 29/4/15 17:43, Sean P. DeNigris a Ã©crit : > Sean P. DeNigris wrote >> It looks like a bug in ConfigurationOfSeaside3... I reported to their >> list... > Johan Brichau informed me that Seaside configs now live at > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Seaside/MetacelloConfigurations > > The config now loads without warning in Pharo 3.0 and 4.0 :) > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/MagicMagritte-in-Pharo-40-tp4821956p4822970.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

April 30, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner

by Stephan Eggermont

On 30/04/15 16:02, stepharo wrote: > I would not promote groups because we want to get rid of them. No we don't. We need first class support for them in the tools. We cannot map variants decently without lots of duplication otherwise. It is a 5 dimensional problem that is not going to get easy. Stephan

April 30, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] RPackage extension methods using normal protocol names

by stepharo

I'm not sure that it will really help. The * is handy and we have many other things to improve first. Le 30/4/15 16:44, Ben Coman a Ã©crit : > I saw recently how VisualWorks extensions use normal protocol names > http://ia902605.us.archive.org/25/items/St4u181ClassExtensionsInVisualworks… > > Now that Pharo has got real package objects with RPackage, how > possible is the VW convention? It would facilitate porting code. > > cheers -ben

April 30, 2015

Cypress - cross platform Pharo & Visualworks

by Ben Coman

Is anyone using cross-platform Pharo / VisualWorks development with Cypress? https://github.com/CampSmalltalk/Cypress cheers -ben

April 30, 2015

RPackage extension methods using normal protocol names

by Ben Coman

I saw recently how VisualWorks extensions use normal protocol names http://ia902605.us.archive.org/25/items/St4u181ClassExtensionsInVisualworks… Now that Pharo has got real package objects with RPackage, how possible is the VW convention? It would facilitate porting code. cheers -ben

April 30, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [Vm-dev] Re: Reddit discussion (rant) about Pharo 4.0 first time users' experiences

by Esteban Lorenzano

me. is easy (just change the sdk in configuration). the real problem is compatibility: there is still a lot of mac users using leopard there. Esteban ps: I didnât tried with yosemite, but maverics was ok > On 30 Apr 2015, at 16:32, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > > There was a criticism about the VM build requiring OSX SDK 10.6 being +4 years old. > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm <https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm> > > Has anyone built with a later SDK? > cheers -ben > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu <mailto:sven@stfx.eu>> wrote: > So he didn't find http://pharo.org/documentation <http://pharo.org/documentation> ? > > It is the first hit if you search for 'Pharo Documentation' ! > > Of course, one on one mentoring is way better than any documentation for anything. > > > On 30 Apr 2015, at 13:40, Sergio Fedi <sergio.fedi(a)gmail.com <mailto:sergio.fedi@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > Note: I haven't read the reddit link above) > > > > I recently (2 weeks) begun working with a total neophite to St and there is a lack of proper Tutorial/Documentation to get you started doing something. > > > > When I say that there is a lack, I mean that this person (who is well versed in looking up stuff on the internet) couldn't find proper material for getting started. > > (whether this material does not exist or exists but is difficult to find, I don > > t know) > > > > âAnd it's not have been the first time this happened to me. > > > > So far, my best (fluid, straightforward) experiences learning St has been when someone else taught me. > > > > >

April 30, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Reddit discussion (rant) about Pharo 4.0 first time users' experiences

by Ben Coman

There was a criticism about the VM build requiring OSX SDK 10.6 being +4 years old. https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm Has anyone built with a later SDK? cheers -ben On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > So he didn't find http://pharo.org/documentation ? > > It is the first hit if you search for 'Pharo Documentation' ! > > Of course, one on one mentoring is way better than any documentation for > anything. > > > On 30 Apr 2015, at 13:40, Sergio Fedi <sergio.fedi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Note: I haven't read the reddit link above) > > > > I recently (2 weeks) begun working with a total neophite to St and there > is a lack of proper Tutorial/Documentation to get you started doing > something. > > > > When I say that there is a lack, I mean that this person (who is well > versed in looking up stuff on the internet) couldn't find proper material > for getting started. > > (whether this material does not exist or exists but is difficult to > find, I don > > t know) > > > > âAnd it's not have been the first time this happened to me. > > > > So far, my best (fluid, straightforward) experiences learning St has > been when someone else taught me. > > > > >

April 30, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 30 Apr 2015, at 16:12, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > Then we can remove the groups part :) too late. and yesterday I spend 6h to produce 20m videoâ¦ so I will not try it again in some timeâ¦ :P > BTW we should register (put a link and store the videos) these videos somewhere and not let them on youtube. > I want to be able to use them for the Mooc of course. Esteban > Stef > >> mostly because I wanted to keep the screencast short an easy. >> advanced configurations might need package dependencies, but other times you do not need them. >> >> Esteban >> >>> On 30 Apr 2015, at 16:03, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> wrote: >>> >>> Esteban >>> >>> why you did not define the dependencies between the packages? >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> Le 30/4/15 13:50, Esteban Lorenzano a Ã©crit : >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I made a small video on how to use Versionner. >>>> Versionner allows you to manage project configurations in a smooth way. >>>> >>>> https://youtu.be/cFRJDuWL-Q0 <https://youtu.be/cFRJDuWL-Q0> >>>> >>>> I knowâ¦ is not âKilonâs qualityââ¦ but I hope it will help :) >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> Esteban >>> >> >

April 30, 2015