December 2015 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] Smallworlds - Interactive Fiction Framework

by Eric Velten de Melo

2015-12-28 11:30 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: > Now it works! > Looks interesting! However, it is a bit crude. What are the available > commands? > The Cloak of Darkness adventure is very simple. It is just the "Hello World" of interactive fiction. You can look, look <something>, take <something>, drop <something>, put <something> on <something>, go <direction>. But yes, there is still much room for improvement. > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > On Dec 28, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Eric Velten de Melo <ericvmelo(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > There is an AdventureShell class made with Spec. You use it like this: > > (AdventureShell world: (CDGameWorld new)) openWithSpec. > > It is pretty basic, but gets the job done. > > 2015-12-28 10:51 GMT-02:00 Robert Withers <robert.w.withers(a)gmail.com>: > >> This looks interesting. How can it be used and made interactive? I would >> like to launch the CDGameWorld that did load with this configuration as an >> interactive session, to see how this package is used. >> >> cheers, >> Robert >> >> >> On 12/27/2015 10:14 PM, Eric Velten de Melo wrote: >> >> I think I fixed the issues with Metacello. Therefore, you should be able >> to load by using Gofer. >> >> Gofer new >> url:'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ericvm/Smallworlds/main'; >> package: 'ConfigurationOfSmallworlds'; >> load. >> >> ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSmallworlds) project version:'0.3') load. >> >> >> 2015-12-27 23:14 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> Something is wrong. PetitParser is indeed loaded. I get an error: This >>> package depends on the following classes: >>> CommandParser >>> You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load >>> these definitions: >>> CCCommandParser >>> >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>> > On Dec 27, 2015, at 9:13 PM, ericvm < <ericvmelo(a)gmail.com> >>> ericvmelo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > You need to have PetitParser installed for it to work. >>> > >>> > ColossalCave is not ported, should be removed. >>> > >>> > I was not able to get the metacello cobfiguration working properly. >>> > >>> > But installing PetitParser and loading last commit of Smallworlds >>> package should be enough. >>> > >>> > To run cloak of darkness, type >>> > (AdventureShell world: (CDGameWorld new)) openWithSpec. >>> > >>> > Em 27 de dez de 2015 17:29, "abergel [via Smalltalk]" <[hidden email]> >>> escreveu: >>> > hi! >>> > >>> > I would like to try it, but I am facing some issues: >>> > - I cannot use your configuration on Pharo 5. I get an error >>> when trying to load the stable version >>> > - I therefore tried to manually load the two packages. But >>> Smallworlds-ColossalCave does not load. Some classes are missing. >>> > >>> > Cheers, >>> > Alexandre >>> > >>> > >>> > > On Dec 27, 2015, at 12:03 PM, ericvm <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> > > >>> > > I don't know if this is the appropriate venue to do that, but I'd >>> like to >>> > > announce that I finished a stable implementation of a framework for >>> > > developing Interactive Fiction in Pharo Smalltalk. >>> > > >>> > > It is based on an old code written by Bob Jarvis for Dolphin, but it >>> has >>> > > been changed so much that it is almost something new. >>> > > >>> > > This is my first project and I'm still working around Metacello and >>> > > polishing stuff up. So I appreciate any code contributions, comments >>> or >>> > > thoughts about it. >>> > > >>> > > It is hosted on Smalltalkhub: >>> > > (http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ericvm/Smallworlds) >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > View this message in context: >>> <http://forum.world.st/Smallworlds-Interactive-Fiction-Framework-tp4868560.h…> >>> http://forum.world.st/Smallworlds-Interactive-Fiction-Framework-tp4868560.h… >>> > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at >>> Nabble.com <http://nabble.com>. >>> > > >>> > -- >>> > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the >>> discussion below: >>> > >>> http://forum.world.st/Smallworlds-Interactive-Fiction-Framework-tp4868560p4… >>> > To unsubscribe from Smallworlds - Interactive Fiction Framework, click >>> here. >>> > NAML >>> > >>> > View this message in context: Re: Smallworlds - Interactive Fiction >>> Framework >>> > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com >>> <http://nabble.com>. >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Robert >> . .. ... ^,^ >> >> > >

Dec. 28, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Smallworlds - Interactive Fiction Framework

by Eric Velten de Melo

2015-12-28 11:15 GMT-02:00 Robert Withers <robert.w.withers(a)gmail.com>: > Cool, I am stuck in the cloak room and can't find the bar. > > Can you create objects inside the adventure? > You mean create objects on the fly while you are playing? Not in a straightforward way, but you could, it's Smalltalk. The main reason why I started this project in the first place is because of the poor support the most popular interactive fiction frameworks had for dynamic object creation.

Dec. 28, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Smallworlds - Interactive Fiction Framework

by Alexandre Bergel

Now it works! Looks interesting! However, it is a bit crude. What are the available commands? Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > On Dec 28, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Eric Velten de Melo <ericvmelo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > There is an AdventureShell class made with Spec. You use it like this: > > (AdventureShell world: (CDGameWorld new)) openWithSpec. > > It is pretty basic, but gets the job done. > > 2015-12-28 10:51 GMT-02:00 Robert Withers <robert.w.withers(a)gmail.com <mailto:robert.w.withers@gmail.com>>: > This looks interesting. How can it be used and made interactive? I would like to launch the CDGameWorld that did load with this configuration as an interactive session, to see how this package is used. > > cheers, > Robert > > > On 12/27/2015 10:14 PM, Eric Velten de Melo wrote: >> I think I fixed the issues with Metacello. Therefore, you should be able to load by using Gofer. >> >> Gofer new >> url:'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ericvm/Smallworlds/main <http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ericvm/Smallworlds/main>'; >> package: 'ConfigurationOfSmallworlds'; >> load. >> >> ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSmallworlds) project version:'0.3') load. >> >> >> 2015-12-27 23:14 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com <mailto:alexandre.bergel@me.com>>: >> Hi! >> >> Something is wrong. PetitParser is indeed loaded. I get an error: This package depends on the following classes: >> CommandParser >> You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions: >> CCCommandParser >> >> Alexandre >> >> >> > On Dec 27, 2015, at 9:13 PM, ericvm < <mailto:ericvmelo@gmail.com>ericvmelo(a)gmail.com <mailto:ericvmelo@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > >> > You need to have PetitParser installed for it to work. >> > >> > ColossalCave is not ported, should be removed. >> > >> > I was not able to get the metacello cobfiguration working properly. >> > >> > But installing PetitParser and loading last commit of Smallworlds package should be enough. >> > >> > To run cloak of darkness, type >> > (AdventureShell world: (CDGameWorld new)) openWithSpec. >> > >> > Em 27 de dez de 2015 17:29, "abergel [via Smalltalk]" <[hidden email]> escreveu: >> > hi! >> > >> > I would like to try it, but I am facing some issues: >> > - I cannot use your configuration on Pharo 5. I get an error when trying to load the stable version >> > - I therefore tried to manually load the two packages. But Smallworlds-ColossalCave does not load. Some classes are missing. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Alexandre >> > >> > >> > > On Dec 27, 2015, at 12:03 PM, ericvm <[hidden email]> wrote: >> > > >> > > I don't know if this is the appropriate venue to do that, but I'd like to >> > > announce that I finished a stable implementation of a framework for >> > > developing Interactive Fiction in Pharo Smalltalk. >> > > >> > > It is based on an old code written by Bob Jarvis for Dolphin, but it has >> > > been changed so much that it is almost something new. >> > > >> > > This is my first project and I'm still working around Metacello and >> > > polishing stuff up. So I appreciate any code contributions, comments or >> > > thoughts about it. >> > > >> > > It is hosted on Smalltalkhub: >> > > (http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ericvm/Smallworlds <http://smalltalkhub.com/#%21/%7Eericvm/Smallworlds>) >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > View this message in context: <http://forum.world.st/Smallworlds-Interactive-Fiction-Framework-tp4868560.h…>http://forum.world.st/Smallworlds-Interactive-Fiction-Framework-tp4868560.h… <http://forum.world.st/Smallworlds-Interactive-Fiction-Framework-tp4868560.h…> >> > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> > > >> > -- >> > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu <http://www.bergel.eu/> >> > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: >> > http://forum.world.st/Smallworlds-Interactive-Fiction-Framework-tp4868560p4… <http://forum.world.st/Smallworlds-Interactive-Fiction-Framework-tp4868560p4…> >> > To unsubscribe from Smallworlds - Interactive Fiction Framework, click here. >> > NAML >> > >> > View this message in context: Re: Smallworlds - Interactive Fiction Framework >> > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu <http://www.bergel.eu/> >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> > > -- > Robert > . .. ... ^,^ >

Dec. 28, 2015

Robotic Avatars

by Robert Withers

On 12/28/2015 08:11 AM, Robert Withers wrote: > > > On 12/28/2015 08:01 AM, Johan Fabry wrote: >> Robert, >> >> Consider it from my point of view: I am not forcing you to think >> about design decisions of the JIT of the domain-specific language for >> robotics that am I building. > > Good Lord in Heaven, please tell me more! I always love to learn more > and I am right at home living inside a joint space perspective. I am > highly interested in the JIT and robotics. > > Best regards, > Robert I plan to define a logical avatar, with various characteristics and attached attributes. This will be viewable through a chosen perspective and there may be more than one tech level perspective. A strong perspective of avatars in 2D or 3D graphics and using robotics to control avatars and NPCs in this space seems important to my vision of this. Think of the Metaverse and the underground passages in the black hacker building (Snow Crash). -- Robert . .. ... ^,^

Dec. 28, 2015

Slack invitation

by SaÅ¡a JaniÅ¡ka

Hiya, I'm told this is the right place to ask for an invitation to join Slack channel? Sincerely, Gour -- One who restrains the senses of action but whose mind dwells on sense objects certainly deludes himself and is called a pretender.

Dec. 28, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Smallworlds - Interactive Fiction Framework

by Robert Withers

Cool, I am stuck in the cloak room and can't find the bar. Can you create objects inside the adventure? On 12/28/2015 08:07 AM, Eric Velten de Melo wrote: > (AdventureShell world: (CDGameWorld new)) openWithSpec. -- Robert . .. ... ^,^

Dec. 28, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Transcendental #new (was Re: why Pillar)

by Robert Withers

On 12/28/2015 08:01 AM, Johan Fabry wrote: > Robert, > > Consider it from my point of view: I am not forcing you to think about > design decisions of the JIT of the domain-specific language for > robotics that am I building. Good Lord in Heaven, please tell me more! I always love to learn more and I am right at home living inside a joint space perspective. I am highly interested in the JIT and robotics. Best regards, Robert > > Greetings, > >> On Dec 28, 2015, at 08:29, Robert Withers <robert.w.withers(a)gmail.com >> <mailto:robert.w.withers@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Which is exactly what I did, I posted how it is related and still >> caught a knee-jerk reaction. I am drawing a line. I will continue to >> reference religious and scriptural meta-models. There is coherent >> thought in these models and they are familiar to the majority of the >> people on the planet, the average person, even if the intellectuals >> fail to resonate with it. This familiarity makes it a good model for >> the average person to interact. Seems to be a lack of knowledge on >> the side of the intellectuals. > > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry <http://pleiad.cl/%7Ejfabry> > PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - > University of Chile > -- Robert . .. ... ^,^

Dec. 28, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Smallworlds - Interactive Fiction Framework

by Eric Velten de Melo

There is an AdventureShell class made with Spec. You use it like this: (AdventureShell world: (CDGameWorld new)) openWithSpec. It is pretty basic, but gets the job done. 2015-12-28 10:51 GMT-02:00 Robert Withers <robert.w.withers(a)gmail.com>: > This looks interesting. How can it be used and made interactive? I would > like to launch the CDGameWorld that did load with this configuration as an > interactive session, to see how this package is used. > > cheers, > Robert > > > On 12/27/2015 10:14 PM, Eric Velten de Melo wrote: > > I think I fixed the issues with Metacello. Therefore, you should be able > to load by using Gofer. > > Gofer new > url:'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ericvm/Smallworlds/main'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfSmallworlds'; > load. > > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSmallworlds) project version:'0.3') load. > > > 2015-12-27 23:14 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: > >> Hi! >> >> Something is wrong. PetitParser is indeed loaded. I get an error: This >> package depends on the following classes: >> CommandParser >> You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these >> definitions: >> CCCommandParser >> >> Alexandre >> >> >> > On Dec 27, 2015, at 9:13 PM, ericvm < <ericvmelo(a)gmail.com> >> ericvmelo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > You need to have PetitParser installed for it to work. >> > >> > ColossalCave is not ported, should be removed. >> > >> > I was not able to get the metacello cobfiguration working properly. >> > >> > But installing PetitParser and loading last commit of Smallworlds >> package should be enough. >> > >> > To run cloak of darkness, type >> > (AdventureShell world: (CDGameWorld new)) openWithSpec. >> > >> > Em 27 de dez de 2015 17:29, "abergel [via Smalltalk]" <[hidden email]> >> escreveu: >> > hi! >> > >> > I would like to try it, but I am facing some issues: >> > - I cannot use your configuration on Pharo 5. I get an error >> when trying to load the stable version >> > - I therefore tried to manually load the two packages. But >> Smallworlds-ColossalCave does not load. Some classes are missing. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Alexandre >> > >> > >> > > On Dec 27, 2015, at 12:03 PM, ericvm <[hidden email]> wrote: >> > > >> > > I don't know if this is the appropriate venue to do that, but I'd >> like to >> > > announce that I finished a stable implementation of a framework for >> > > developing Interactive Fiction in Pharo Smalltalk. >> > > >> > > It is based on an old code written by Bob Jarvis for Dolphin, but it >> has >> > > been changed so much that it is almost something new. >> > > >> > > This is my first project and I'm still working around Metacello and >> > > polishing stuff up. So I appreciate any code contributions, comments >> or >> > > thoughts about it. >> > > >> > > It is hosted on Smalltalkhub: >> > > (http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ericvm/Smallworlds) >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > View this message in context: >> <http://forum.world.st/Smallworlds-Interactive-Fiction-Framework-tp4868560.h…> >> http://forum.world.st/Smallworlds-Interactive-Fiction-Framework-tp4868560.h… >> > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at >> Nabble.com. >> > > >> > -- >> > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the >> discussion below: >> > >> http://forum.world.st/Smallworlds-Interactive-Fiction-Framework-tp4868560p4… >> > To unsubscribe from Smallworlds - Interactive Fiction Framework, click >> here. >> > NAML >> > >> > View this message in context: Re: Smallworlds - Interactive Fiction >> Framework >> > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> > > -- > Robert > . .. ... ^,^ > >

Dec. 28, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Transcendental #new (was Re: why Pillar)

by Johan Fabry

Robert, by talking about âa knee-jerk reactionâ and âa lack of knowledgeâ you are being rude to us. Please donât do that. In our mails we have been courteous and avoided using such hurtful expressions. Also, there is a difference between lack of knowledge and lack of time. I am only human with limited time and matters which are more pressing than the discussion you insist on holding. Consider it from my point of view: I am not forcing you to think about design decisions of the JIT of the domain-specific language for robotics that am I building. Greetings, > On Dec 28, 2015, at 08:29, Robert Withers <robert.w.withers(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Which is exactly what I did, I posted how it is related and still caught a knee-jerk reaction. I am drawing a line. I will continue to reference religious and scriptural meta-models. There is coherent thought in these models and they are familiar to the majority of the people on the planet, the average person, even if the intellectuals fail to resonate with it. This familiarity makes it a good model for the average person to interact. Seems to be a lack of knowledge on the side of the intellectuals. ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Dec. 28, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Smallworlds - Interactive Fiction Framework

by Robert Withers

This looks interesting. How can it be used and made interactive? I would like to launch the CDGameWorld that did load with this configuration as an interactive session, to see how this package is used. cheers, Robert On 12/27/2015 10:14 PM, Eric Velten de Melo wrote: > I think I fixed the issues with Metacello. Therefore, you should be > able to load by using Gofer. > > Gofer new > url:'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ericvm/Smallworlds/main'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfSmallworlds'; > load. > > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSmallworlds) project version:'0.3') load. > > > 2015-12-27 23:14 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com > <mailto:alexandre.bergel@me.com>>: > > Hi! > > Something is wrong. PetitParser is indeed loaded. I get an error: > This package depends on the following classes: > CommandParser > You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to > load these definitions: > CCCommandParser > > Alexandre > > > > On Dec 27, 2015, at 9:13 PM, ericvm <ericvmelo(a)gmail.com > <mailto:ericvmelo@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > You need to have PetitParser installed for it to work. > > > > ColossalCave is not ported, should be removed. > > > > I was not able to get the metacello cobfiguration working properly. > > > > But installing PetitParser and loading last commit of > Smallworlds package should be enough. > > > > To run cloak of darkness, type > > (AdventureShell world: (CDGameWorld new)) openWithSpec. > > > > Em 27 de dez de 2015 17:29, "abergel [via Smalltalk]" <[hidden > email]> escreveu: > > hi! > > > > I would like to try it, but I am facing some issues: > > - I cannot use your configuration on Pharo 5. I get an > error when trying to load the stable version > > - I therefore tried to manually load the two packages. > But Smallworlds-ColossalCave does not load. Some classes are missing. > > > > Cheers, > > Alexandre > > > > > > > On Dec 27, 2015, at 12:03 PM, ericvm <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > > > I don't know if this is the appropriate venue to do that, but > I'd like to > > > announce that I finished a stable implementation of a > framework for > > > developing Interactive Fiction in Pharo Smalltalk. > > > > > > It is based on an old code written by Bob Jarvis for Dolphin, > but it has > > > been changed so much that it is almost something new. > > > > > > This is my first project and I'm still working around > Metacello and > > > polishing stuff up. So I appreciate any code contributions, > comments or > > > thoughts about it. > > > > > > It is hosted on Smalltalkhub: > > > (http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ericvm/Smallworlds > <http://smalltalkhub.com/#%21/%7Eericvm/Smallworlds>) > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Smallworlds-Interactive-Fiction-Framework-tp4868560.h… > > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > > > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: > > > http://forum.world.st/Smallworlds-Interactive-Fiction-Framework-tp4868560p4… > > To unsubscribe from Smallworlds - Interactive Fiction Framework, > click here. > > NAML > > > > View this message in context: Re: Smallworlds - Interactive Fiction Framework > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > -- Robert . .. ... ^,^

Dec. 28, 2015