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[Pharo-project] about reliability of installer

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi guys I was going over the chapter on installer and I played a bit with it. But I got the following behavior | monticello | monticello := Installer monticello http: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/BreakOut'. monticello addPackage: 'BreakOut'. monticello install this installed breakout-rj.11 while the latest one is Breakout-rkrk.119 and of course I did not want to load Breakout but BreakOut which is my version. So this experience shows me that Installer is a nice idea but that it has unpredictable behavior --- may be I should reimplement the api I need and make it work (now keith will shout as usual) Lukas is it because of such behavior that you got problem loading seaside or other projects with it? Stef

March 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] World Graphics and Halos

by Rob Rothwell

If you put back: HaloMorpth>>addPaintBgdHandle: haloSpec (innerTarget isKindOf: PasteUpMorph) ifTrue: [self addHandle: haloSpec on: #mouseDown send: #paintBackground to: innerTarget]. from an older version, you can select a Morph again, but for "simple" Morphs (like Morph new), they get filled in with the background color of the World... Rob On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Henrik Sperre Johansen < henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no> wrote: > Attached a .cs to the issue with a fix, also including the solution Gary > suggested for the taskbar-issue that was reported. > (I don't know how to remove methods in .cs files, and haven't yet gotten > around to learn how to make slices, so BorderedMorph>>areasRemainingToFill: > would have to be removed by hand..) > > Cheers, > Henry > > On 14.03.2009 22:04, Rob Rothwell wrote: > > Done. > > Issues 655 > >> >> On Mar 14, 2009, at 8:14 PM, Rob Rothwell wrote: >> >> > Hi all, >> > >> > Open up a 10250 dev image and click anywhere within the bounds of >> > the "Pharo" graphic. >> > >> > The world menu pops up and leaves part of itself behind when you >> > click somewhere else on the screen. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

March 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] World Graphics and Halos

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Rob, Sounds like that worked - I yield all credit to Pinesoft for getting it right. I still think that halos, or an equivalent are important. Dolphin's view composer is a very nice tool, both for making layout changes and for browsing the structure of existing views. Dolphin's MVP framework more or less requires that each shell window type have its own class, making it fairly easy to get to the correct class in the hierarchy and then find and browse its views. Even with that, two things arose (necessity's relation to invention): Object Arts created the "visual object finder," and Ian Bartholomew gave us Snoop. The visual finder is a mode that can be easily activated, and will open an inspector on the next graphical entity the user clicks. Don't dismiss it too easily; it's very useful. Ian's Snoop is both more and less sophisticated. It shows two hierarchies: the presenters and corresponding views (the parent/child relationships can be slightly different[*], so both are useful). Snoop is very similar to a customized object explorer, and can open itself either on a new instance of a class or be attached to a "running" view (at least I _think_ it can do that). However we decide to offer it, we will find that some type of tool will be needed to help people find which views are in front of them. Consider my goal of changing background colors to reduce eye strain. The first step is to figure out which views need attention, and the intuitive place to start is to look at an offending sub-view and somehow identify its class. Bill Don't ask for an example :) I just remember running into it, asking Ian to make the addition, and he was kind enough to do so. A lot of it might be one's thought process at the time. ________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Rob Rothwell Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 11:36 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] World Graphics and Halos Good one! Thanks...sometimes the simple things are easy to forget... Rob On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu<mailto:bschwab@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote: Rob, You might find that giving focus to the window and pressing either the space bar or enter will close it. I would _hope_ hat would work at least. Bill ________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr> [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr>] On Behalf Of Rob Rothwell Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 6:35 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] World Graphics and Halos Yep...that seemed to fix it! Now if I could just figure out how to remove a Morph from the World without Halos! If I do System->About it is so big now that it won't all fit on my screen, so I can't reach the ok button to close it and I am stuck with it! Rob On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Henrik Sperre Johansen <henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no<mailto:henrik.s.johansen@veloxit.no>> wrote: Attached a .cs to the issue with a fix, also including the solution Gary suggested for the taskbar-issue that was reported. (I don't know how to remove methods in .cs files, and haven't yet gotten around to learn how to make slices, so BorderedMorph>>areasRemainingToFill: would have to be removed by hand..) Cheers, Henry On 14.03.2009 22:04, Rob Rothwell wrote: Done. Issues 655 On Mar 14, 2009, at 8:14 PM, Rob Rothwell wrote: > Hi all, > > Open up a 10250 dev image and click anywhere within the bounds of > the "Pharo" graphic. > > The world menu pops up and leaves part of itself behind when you > click somewhere else on the screen. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] World Graphics and Halos

by Gary Chambers

I noticed the halo problem in the dev image too. Resetting the halo specs is needed since one has been removed... Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Rob Rothwell To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] World Graphics and Halos Yep...that seemed to fix it! Now if I could just figure out how to remove a Morph from the World without Halos! If I do System->About it is so big now that it won't all fit on my screen, so I can't reach the ok button to close it and I am stuck with it! Rob On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Henrik Sperre Johansen <henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no> wrote: Attached a .cs to the issue with a fix, also including the solution Gary suggested for the taskbar-issue that was reported. (I don't know how to remove methods in .cs files, and haven't yet gotten around to learn how to make slices, so BorderedMorph>>areasRemainingToFill: would have to be removed by hand..) Cheers, Henry On 14.03.2009 22:04, Rob Rothwell wrote: Done. Issues 655 On Mar 14, 2009, at 8:14 PM, Rob Rothwell wrote: > Hi all, > > Open up a 10250 dev image and click anywhere within the bounds of > the "Pharo" graphic. > > The world menu pops up and leaves part of itself behind when you > click somewhere else on the screen. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 15, 2009

[Pharo-project] about closures integration

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi all we could get ready for a closure integration attempt. this means - produce a new image - publish all the packages - from then one use new VM - and we could try to continue from there Now may be we could use another stream? what do you think? does it make sense? is it worth to split the effort in two streams? what are you thinking about that? - the mac vm seems to work - what is the case for the linux and windows one? Stef

March 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] World Graphics and Halos

by Rob Rothwell

Good one! Thanks...sometimes the simple things are easy to forget... Rob On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu>wrote: > Rob, > > > > You might find that giving focus to the window and pressing either the > space bar or enter will close it. I would _*hope*_ hat would work at > least. > > > > Bill > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto: > pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] *On Behalf Of *Rob Rothwell > *Sent:* Saturday, March 14, 2009 6:35 PM > *To:* Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > *Subject:* Re: [Pharo-project] World Graphics and Halos > > > > Yep...that seemed to fix it! > > Now if I could just figure out how to remove a Morph from the World without > Halos! > > If I do System->About it is so big now that it won't all fit on my screen, > so I can't reach the ok button to close it and I am stuck with it! > > Rob > > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Henrik Sperre Johansen < > henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no> wrote: > > Attached a .cs to the issue with a fix, also including the solution Gary > suggested for the taskbar-issue that was reported. > (I don't know how to remove methods in .cs files, and haven't yet gotten > around to learn how to make slices, so BorderedMorph>>areasRemainingToFill: > would have to be removed by hand..) > > Cheers, > Henry > > On 14.03.2009 22:04, Rob Rothwell wrote: > > Done. > > Issues 655 > > > On Mar 14, 2009, at 8:14 PM, Rob Rothwell wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Open up a 10250 dev image and click anywhere within the bounds of > > the "Pharo" graphic. > > > > The world menu pops up and leaves part of itself behind when you > > click somewhere else on the screen. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

March 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] World Graphics and Halos

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Rob, You might find that giving focus to the window and pressing either the space bar or enter will close it. I would _hope_ hat would work at least. Bill ________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Rob Rothwell Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 6:35 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] World Graphics and Halos Yep...that seemed to fix it! Now if I could just figure out how to remove a Morph from the World without Halos! If I do System->About it is so big now that it won't all fit on my screen, so I can't reach the ok button to close it and I am stuck with it! Rob On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Henrik Sperre Johansen <henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no<mailto:henrik.s.johansen@veloxit.no>> wrote: Attached a .cs to the issue with a fix, also including the solution Gary suggested for the taskbar-issue that was reported. (I don't know how to remove methods in .cs files, and haven't yet gotten around to learn how to make slices, so BorderedMorph>>areasRemainingToFill: would have to be removed by hand..) Cheers, Henry On 14.03.2009 22:04, Rob Rothwell wrote: Done. Issues 655 On Mar 14, 2009, at 8:14 PM, Rob Rothwell wrote: > Hi all, > > Open up a 10250 dev image and click anywhere within the bounds of > the "Pharo" graphic. > > The world menu pops up and leaves part of itself behind when you > click somewhere else on the screen. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] World Graphics and Halos

by Rob Rothwell

Yep...that seemed to fix it! Now if I could just figure out how to remove a Morph from the World without Halos! If I do System->About it is so big now that it won't all fit on my screen, so I can't reach the ok button to close it and I am stuck with it! Rob On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Henrik Sperre Johansen < henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no> wrote: > Attached a .cs to the issue with a fix, also including the solution Gary > suggested for the taskbar-issue that was reported. > (I don't know how to remove methods in .cs files, and haven't yet gotten > around to learn how to make slices, so BorderedMorph>>areasRemainingToFill: > would have to be removed by hand..) > > Cheers, > Henry > > On 14.03.2009 22:04, Rob Rothwell wrote: > > Done. > > Issues 655 > >> >> On Mar 14, 2009, at 8:14 PM, Rob Rothwell wrote: >> >> > Hi all, >> > >> > Open up a 10250 dev image and click anywhere within the bounds of >> > the "Pharo" graphic. >> > >> > The world menu pops up and leaves part of itself behind when you >> > click somewhere else on the screen. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

March 14, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] World Graphics and Halos

by Henrik Sperre Johansen

Attached a .cs to the issue with a fix, also including the solution Gary suggested for the taskbar-issue that was reported. (I don't know how to remove methods in .cs files, and haven't yet gotten around to learn how to make slices, so BorderedMorph>>areasRemainingToFill: would have to be removed by hand..) Cheers, Henry On 14.03.2009 22:04, Rob Rothwell wrote: > Done. > > Issues 655 > > > On Mar 14, 2009, at 8:14 PM, Rob Rothwell wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Open up a 10250 dev image and click anywhere within the bounds of > > the "Pharo" graphic. > > > > The world menu pops up and leaves part of itself behind when you > > click somewhere else on the screen. >

March 14, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] World Graphics and Halos

by Rob Rothwell

Done. Issues 655 and 666. Take care, Rob On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 3:45 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > dear rob > > can you open a bug tracker entry? > two entries :) > Stef > > On Mar 14, 2009, at 8:14 PM, Rob Rothwell wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Open up a 10250 dev image and click anywhere within the bounds of > > the "Pharo" graphic. > > > > The world menu pops up and leaves part of itself behind when you > > click somewhere else on the screen. > > > > Then, if you turn halos on and try to remove the graphic (or any > > morph for that matter) you get a DNU... > > > > Just wondering if anyone can confirm before a file an issue; also > > wondering if this is one or two issues? > > > > Take care, > > > > Rob > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

March 14, 2009