July 2011 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] Coral and read-eval-loop ?

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi! I often use ruby when I wish to realize some arithmetic operating without leaving my xterm. I haven't tried Coral, but does it offer a read-eval-loop? a bit like in scheme or shell script? Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

July 31, 2011

[Pharo-project] SmallHarbour sprint

by laurent laffont

Hi, there will be a Small Harbour (http://smallharbour.org - a public fork of SeasideHosting codebase) on Tuesday 2 August, from 11h to 18h (Paris time). You can participate using Skype and TeamViewer. If you can come "for real", Romain and I will be at the Gallice CafÃ© (http://www.gallicecafe.com/) Cran-Gevrier (France, near Annecy). Actually the main goal is to setup the first public server for alpha testers Other goals: - add the possibility to create an account and deploy a template pier image in one click - nice theme - code cleaning - some VM stuff Send me email if you want to participate. Cheers, Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs <http://twitter.com/#!/lolgzs> Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st

July 31, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Users of #become:

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

open a ticket :) and this is probably because because one arrived after the other. I do not remember the history on that part. Stef > just checked senders of #become: > and found multiple places where it would be better to use #becomeForward: > > CompiledMethod>>putSource:fromParseNode:inFile:withPreamble: > MethodDictionary>>compact , grow, rehash , removeAll, removeKey:ifAbsent: > > SmalltalkImage>>recreateSpecialObjectsArray > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >

July 31, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] add: message declared in Collection

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

I *assume* it is a lesser-of-evils decision, drawing attention to the need to create an appropriate implementation for an offending collection and letting explicitly opt-out, classes for which #add: does not make sense. Done correctly, one is informed that #add: is deliberately not available or that the class in question needs to be fixed. Just a guess... Bill ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of dimacamp [dimacamp(a)hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 5:19 PM To: pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: [Pharo-project] add: message declared in Collection Does anyone know why the #add: message is declared in Collection as subclassResponsibility if then some subclasses need to cancel the message raising a shouldNotImplement exception? Why isn't just declared in the classes that really should answer that message? Thanks. Diego. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/add-message-declared-in-Collection-tp3706883p3706883.… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

July 31, 2011

[Pharo-project] Users of #become:

by Igor Stasenko

just checked senders of #become: and found multiple places where it would be better to use #becomeForward: CompiledMethod>>putSource:fromParseNode:inFile:withPreamble: MethodDictionary>>compact , grow, rehash , removeAll, removeKey:ifAbsent: SmalltalkImage>>recreateSpecialObjectsArray -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

July 30, 2011

[Pharo-project] add: message declared in Collection

by dimacamp

Does anyone know why the #add: message is declared in Collection as subclassResponsibility if then some subclasses need to cancel the message raising a shouldNotImplement exception? Why isn't just declared in the classes that really should answer that message? Thanks. Diego. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/add-message-declared-in-Collection-tp3706883p3706883.… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

July 30, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] who is in charge of the web pages?

by Adrian Lienhard

Great! In autumn, I'm going to be away (traveling, and hence I'm probably not online very often). It's good to know that somebody is taking care of the website. Laurent, I've added privileges to your account so you have access to all content and features and you can also add/remove user logins. Adrian On Jul 29, 2011, at 16:59 , laurent laffont wrote: > I can do it > > Laurent. > > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:55 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I would like to be sure that we have a fuse or two when adrian is busy or >> in vacation. >> Who is in charge of the web page because johannes sent me a better picture >> and I would like to put it on the contributors list. >> >> Stef >>

July 30, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] CameraPlugin for VM

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jul 30, 2011, at 2:42 PM, David T. Lewis wrote: > I believe that the license issue has been resolved with an MIT licensed > release of the CameraPlugin plugin and support code. > > Discussion is on vm-dev: > <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2011-July/008973.html> Thanks david. This is much clearer. :) http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7654 > > And a copy of the MIT code is attached to a new Mantis issue here: > <http://bugs.squeak.org/view_all_bug_page.php?page_number=1> > > Dave > > > On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:02:31AM +0200, St?phane Ducasse wrote: >> It depends on a dependencies also at the vm level and how they can crip in the system. >> >> Stef >> >> On Jul 30, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: >> >>> But anyway, I guess you don't want to include it in PharoCore, so the >>> license issue is not the concern of PharoTeam, right? >>> In the other hand, if a third party want to use it, it will have to find >>> its own way to comply with the license. >>> >>> Hilaire >>> >>> Le 29/07/2011 15:20, Marcus Denker a ?crit : >>>> >>>> On Jul 29, 2011, at 3:16 PM, Bernat Romagosa wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sure, I attach it here. >>>>> >>>>> It looks like a standard MIT license with just these extra conditions added. >>>>> >>>> And with >>> >>> -- >>> Education 0.2 -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire >>> >>> >> >

July 30, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] CameraPlugin for VM

by David T. Lewis

I believe that the license issue has been resolved with an MIT licensed release of the CameraPlugin plugin and support code. Discussion is on vm-dev: <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2011-July/008973.html> And a copy of the MIT code is attached to a new Mantis issue here: <http://bugs.squeak.org/view_all_bug_page.php?page_number=1> Dave On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:02:31AM +0200, St?phane Ducasse wrote: > It depends on a dependencies also at the vm level and how they can crip in the system. > > Stef > > On Jul 30, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > > > But anyway, I guess you don't want to include it in PharoCore, so the > > license issue is not the concern of PharoTeam, right? > > In the other hand, if a third party want to use it, it will have to find > > its own way to comply with the license. > > > > Hilaire > > > > Le 29/07/2011 15:20, Marcus Denker a ?crit : > >> > >> On Jul 29, 2011, at 3:16 PM, Bernat Romagosa wrote: > >> > >>> Sure, I attach it here. > >>> > >>> It looks like a standard MIT license with just these extra conditions added. > >>> > >> And with > > > > -- > > Education 0.2 -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire > > > > >

July 30, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Configuration Browser is a mastery

by Marcus Denker

On Jul 30, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > I played earlier with the "Configuration Browser" and wondered what it > was all about ... After the following question on StackOverflow I > played with it again: > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6880596/how-to-browse-metacello-reposito… > > Maybe it should be removed from Pharo 1.3, if the following issues > cannot be fixed easily? > Yes, we should remove it as it is not used. > 1. The windows is empty, refreshing leaves the window empty. This > seems to be because <http://www.squeaksource.com/MetaRepoForPharo13> > is an empty repository. It would probably be better to point it to > <http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository> which seems to be > the repository with most configurations; or fill the other repository > with some tested configurations? > > 2. The listing lists many packages that are clearly not > configurations, e.g. Bogus-cwp.18, Illiad-Core0.1, ... Loading them > opens a debugger. > > 3. The tool doesn't show me what configurations are already loaded > (ok, that might not be implemented yet, but would be a key feature and > easy to find out). > > 4. MetacelloConfigurationBrowser>>#refresh and > MetacelloConfigurationBrowser>>#loadConfigurationWithLatest: > duplicates the manual parsing of package filenames. This is bound to > break. Why not use Gofer? > > Cheers, > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

July 30, 2011