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Re: [Pharo-users] Stability of Pharo 7 vs 6?

by Tim Mackinnon

Iâve actually being using both - but 32bit has generally been considered the older more stable cousin (until Pharo 6 - where it was felt that 64bit was now just as stable). I only mentioned it - because the zeroconf example that has crashed a few of my several times - was 32 bit (but I have also had 64 bit crash too. Probably a good experiment to try zeroconf with the 64bit variation and load my baseline as well). I just think we might have an easily reproducable (and small) example that shows this issue that many have experienced a bit more randomly. Tim > On 16 Feb 2019, at 11:17, Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu> wrote: > > I can't tell, but in your initial email you mentionned using the 64bits > VM, so the image is 64bits too. > > So if you are using 32bits, you can try 64bitsVM https://get.pharo.org/64/ > > Le 16/02/2019 Ã 12:01, Tim Mackinnon a Ã©crit : >> As mentioned, Iâm on OSX HighSierra I get a zero conf image (which I >> believe is the 32 bit version?) >> > -- > Dr. Geo > http://drgeo.eu > > >

Feb. 16, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] im using pharo 7 with linux env. but cannot input korean.

by Hilaire

Thanks, I will test with my friend -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Feb. 16, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Stability of Pharo 7 vs 6?

by Hilaire

I can't tell, but in your initial email you mentionned using the 64bits VM, so the image is 64bits too. So if you are using 32bits, you can try 64bitsVM https://get.pharo.org/64/ Le 16/02/2019 Ã 12:01, Tim Mackinnon a Ã©critÂ : > As mentioned, Iâm on OSX HighSierra I get a zero conf image (which I > believe is the 32 bit version?) > -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Feb. 16, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Stability of Pharo 7 vs 6?

by Tim Mackinnon

So the zeroconf image I launched yesterday morning crashed at 10:30pm last night. So I will try leaving the same image open again but not full screen (and see if thats the difference). But this is honestly a trivial example, and Iâm surprised it crashes so easily (5 or 6 times, so every day this week) - As mentioned, Iâm on OSX HighSierra I get a zero conf image (which I believe is the 32 bit version?) curl https://get.pharo.org | bash Then I run: ./pharo-ui Pharo.image eval " Metacello new baseline: 'Exercism'; repository: 'github://macta/pharo-exercism:master/dev/src'; load. ExercismManager welcome. " This loads a pretty small baseline along with 25ish classes that make up the Exercism project: setUpDependencies: spec spec configuration: 'OSProcess' with: [ spec className: #ConfigurationOfOSProcess; versionString: #'stable'; repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/OSProcess' ]. spec baseline: 'ExternalWebBrowser' with: [ spec repository: 'github://seandenigris/Pharo-Web-Browser:master/repository' ]; import: 'ExternalWebBrowser'. I then run a few tests, and use exercism to retrieve a few exercises (via http). Then I do a bit of TDD with the debugger to solve 1 or 2 exercises (but trivial, like reverse-string). And then I leave my image open and close my laptop. This is nothing that I havenât done in Pharo 6 hundreds of time. For the record - The console reports (and the apple diagnostic is below that) CurrentExecutionEnvironment class>>runTestCase: TwoFerTest(TestCase)>>runCaseManaged [ aTestCase announce: TestCaseStarted withResult: self. aTestCase runCaseManaged. aTestCase announce: TestCaseEnded withResult: self. "To not affect performance of big test suites following logic is not inside addPass: method" errors remove: aTestCase ifAbsent: [ ]. failures remove: aTestCase ifAbsent: [ ]. self addPass: aTestCase ] in TestResult>>runCaseForDebug: in Block: [ aTestCase announce: TestCaseStarted withResult: ...etc... BlockClosure>>on:do: TestResult>>runCaseForDebug: [ result runCaseForDebug: self ] in TwoFerTest(TestCase)>>debug in Block: [ result runCaseForDebug: self ] BlockClosure>>ensure: TwoFerTest(TestCase)>>debug Pharo(85584,0xa983a1c0) malloc: *** mach_vm_map(size=8388608) failed (error code=3) *** error: can't allocate region securely *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug Segmentation fault Fri Feb 15 22:34:53 2019 VM: 201901051900 https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git Date: Sat Jan 5 20:00:11 2019 CommitHash: 7a3c6b6 Plugins: 201901051900 https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git C stack backtrace & registers: eax 0x00000000 ebx 0xfd159000 ecx 0x00000000 edx 0xfd159000 edi 0xfd159000 esi 0xfd159000 ebp 0xbff51c58 esp 0xbff51c50 eip 0xa67905d7 0 libobjc.A.dylib 0xa67905d7 _ZN12_GLOBAL__N_119AutoreleasePoolPageC1EPS0_ + 9 1 Pharo 0x00124cf3 reportStackState + 770 2 Pharo 0x001250b1 sigsegv + 213 3 libsystem_platform.dylib 0xa757102b _sigtramp + 43 4 ??? 0xffffffff 0x0 + 4294967295 5 libobjc.A.dylib 0xa67933f2 _ZN12_GLOBAL__N_119AutoreleasePoolPage19autoreleaseFullPageEP11objc_objectPS0_ + 56 6 libobjc.A.dylib 0xa6791495 _ZN11objc_object16rootAutorelease2Ev + 79 7 AppKit 0x91aed8cb -[NSApplication(NSEvent) _setCurrentEvent:] + 63 8 AppKit 0x91aed15a -[NSApplication(NSEvent) _nextEventMatchingEventMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 3577 9 AppKit 0x91aec359 -[NSApplication(NSEvent) nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 134 10 Pharo 0x001191f8 -[sqSqueakOSXApplication(events) pumpRunLoopEventSendAndSignal:] + 332 11 Pharo 0x0011929f -[sqSqueakOSXApplication(events) pumpRunLoop] + 67 12 Pharo 0x00123770 vmIOProcessEvents + 190 13 Pharo 0x001237d7 ioProcessEvents + 57 14 Pharo 0x000b6726 checkForEventsMayContextSwitch + 866 15 Pharo 0x000b7e51 ceCheckForInterrupts + 16 16 ??? 0x0375f1cb 0x0 + 58061259 17 Pharo 0x000a7189 interpret + 757 18 Pharo 0x0012618c -[sqSqueakMainApplication runSqueak] + 439 19 Foundation 0x95214299 __NSFirePerformWithOrder + 432 20 CoreFoundation 0x937994b6 __CFRUNLOOP_IS_CALLING_OUT_TO_AN_OBSERVER_CALLBACK_FUNCTION__ + 22 21 CoreFoundation 0x937993d2 __CFRunLoopDoObservers + 498 22 CoreFoundation 0x9377c81d __CFRunLoopRun + 1661 23 CoreFoundation 0x9377be71 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 641 24 CoreFoundation 0x9377bbda CFRunLoopRunInMode + 122 25 HIToolbox 0x92d7937b RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 321 26 HIToolbox 0x92d78f5f ReceiveNextEventCommon + 454 27 HIToolbox 0x92d78d7b _BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInModeWithFilter + 71 28 AppKit 0x9137ab2d _DPSNextEvent + 2101 29 AppKit 0x91aece8c -[NSApplication(NSEvent) _nextEventMatchingEventMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 2859 30 AppKit 0x91aec359 -[NSApplication(NSEvent) nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 134 31 AppKit 0x9136fa7d -[NSApplication run] + 763 32 AppKit 0x91341b3a NSApplicationMain + 1228 33 libdyld.dylib 0xa7268611 start + 1 Smalltalk stack dump: 0xbff57ed0 M ProcessorScheduler class>idleProcess 0x4473c98: a(n) ProcessorScheduler class 0x6e68f18 s [] in ProcessorScheduler class>startUp 0x6947bc8 s [] in BlockClosure>newProcess Most recent primitives tempAt:put: tempAt: terminateTo: findNextUnwindContextUpTo: terminateTo: **StackOverflow** **StackOverflow** **StackOverflow** tempAt: tempAt:put: tempAt: terminateTo: findNextUnwindContextUpTo: terminateTo: **StackOverflow** tempAt: tempAt:put: tempAt: terminateTo: findNextUnwindContextUpTo: terminateTo: tempAt: tempAt:put: tempAt: terminateTo: findNextUnwindContextUpTo: terminateTo: tempAt: tempAt:put: tempAt: terminateTo: findNextUnwindContextUpTo: terminateTo: tempAt: tempAt:put: tempAt: terminateTo: findNextUnwindContextUpTo: terminateTo: tempAt: tempAt:put: tempAt: terminateTo: findNextUnwindContextUpTo: terminateTo: tempAt: tempAt:put: tempAt: terminateTo: findNextUnwindContextUpTo: terminateTo: tempAt: tempAt:put: tempAt: terminateTo: findNextUnwindContextUpTo: terminateTo: tempAt: tempAt:put: tempAt: terminateTo: 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terminateTo: findNextUnwindContextUpTo: terminateTo: tempAt: tempAt:put: tempAt: terminateTo: findNextUnwindContextUpTo: terminateTo: tempAt: tempAt:put: tempAt: terminateTo: findNextUnwindContextUpTo: terminateTo: tempAt: tempAt:put: tempAt: terminateTo: findNextUnwindContextUpTo: terminateTo: tempAt: tempAt:put: tempAt: terminateTo: findNextUnwindContextUpTo: terminateTo: **StackOverflow** tempAt: tempAt:put: tempAt: terminateTo: findNextUnwindContextUpTo: terminateTo: **StackOverflow** tempAt: tempAt:put: tempAt: terminateTo: findNextUnwindContextUpTo: terminateTo: **StackOverflow** tempAt: tempAt:put: tempAt: terminateTo: findNextUnwindContextUpTo: terminateTo: **StackOverflow** tempAt: tempAt:put: tempAt: terminateTo: findNextUnwindContextUpTo: terminateTo: tempAt: tempAt:put: tempAt: terminateTo: findNextUnwindContextUpTo: terminateTo: tempAt: tempAt:put: tempAt: terminateTo: findNextUnwindContextUpTo: terminateTo: tempAt: tempAt:put: tempAt: terminateTo: findNextUnwindContextUpTo: terminateTo: **StackOverflow** **StackOverflow** tempAt: tempAt:put: tempAt: terminateTo: findNextUnwindContextUpTo: terminateTo: tempAt: tempAt:put: tempAt: terminateTo: findNextUnwindContextUpTo: terminateTo: tempAt: tempAt:put: tempAt: terminateTo: findNextUnwindContextUpTo: terminateTo: tempAt: tempAt:put: tempAt: terminateTo: findNextUnwindContextUpTo: terminateTo: tempAt: tempAt:put: tempAt: terminateTo: findNextUnwindContextUpTo: terminateTo: millisecondClockValue yield millisecondClockValue wait signal signal nowTick + nowTick >= nowTick + < primSignal:atUTCMicroseconds: wait wait relinquishProcessorForMicroseconds: stack page bytes 4096 available headroom 2788 minimum unused headroom 2072 (Segmentation fault) ./pharo-ui: line 11: 85584 Abort trap: 6 "$DIR"/"pharo-vm/Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo" "$@â apple diagnostic reports: Process: Pharo [85584] Path: /Users/USER/*/Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo Identifier: org.pharo.Pharo Version: 5.0.201901051900 (5.0.201901051900) Code Type: X86 (Native) Parent Process: ??? [85580] Responsible: Pharo [85584] User ID: 501 Date/Time: 2019-02-15 22:34:53.892 +0000 OS Version: Mac OS X 10.13.5 (17F77) Report Version: 12 Anonymous UUID: 262197AA-D8D7-1768-420F-0B635BF5C77D Sleep/Wake UUID: 229479AF-3866-4F5C-954B-280CC41FBBCE Time Awake Since Boot: 1000000 seconds Time Since Wake: 2000 seconds System Integrity Protection: enabled Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGABRT) Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000000 Exception Note: EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY VM Regions Near 0: --> __TEXT 00000000000a5000-0000000000176000 [ 836K] r-x/rwx SM=COW ] [/Users/macta/Dev/Exercism/pharo7e1/pharo-vm/Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo] Application Specific Information: abort() called Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0xa73c3eda __pthread_kill + 10 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0xa757c427 pthread_kill + 363 2 libsystem_c.dylib 0xa7312956 abort + 133 3 org.pharo.Pharo 0x001250bf sigsegv + 227 4 libsystem_platform.dylib 0xa757102b _sigtramp + 43 5 ??? 0xffffffff 0 + 4294967295 6 org.pharo.Pharo 0x00124fdc getCrashDumpFilenameInto + 82 7 libobjc.A.dylib 0xa67933f2 (anonymous namespace)::AutoreleasePoolPage::autoreleaseFullPage(objc_object*, (anonymous namespace)::AutoreleasePoolPage*) + 56 8 libobjc.A.dylib 0xa6791495 objc_object::rootAutorelease2() + 79 9 com.apple.AppKit 0x91aed8cb -[NSApplication(NSEvent) _setCurrentEvent:] + 63 10 com.apple.AppKit 0x91aed15a -[NSApplication(NSEvent) _nextEventMatchingEventMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 3577 11 com.apple.AppKit 0x91aec359 -[NSApplication(NSEvent) nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 134 12 org.pharo.Pharo 0x001191f8 -[sqSqueakOSXApplication(events) pumpRunLoopEventSendAndSignal:] + 332 13 org.pharo.Pharo 0x0011929f -[sqSqueakOSXApplication(events) pumpRunLoop] + 67 14 org.pharo.Pharo 0x00123770 vmIOProcessEvents + 190 15 org.pharo.Pharo 0x001237d7 ioProcessEvents + 57 16 org.pharo.Pharo 0x000b6726 checkForEventsMayContextSwitch + 866 17 org.pharo.Pharo 0x000b7e51 ceCheckForInterrupts + 16 18 ??? 0x0375f1cb 0 + 58061259 19 org.pharo.Pharo 0x000a7189 interpret + 757 20 org.pharo.Pharo 0x0012618c -[sqSqueakMainApplication runSqueak] + 439 21 com.apple.Foundation 0x95214299 __NSFirePerformWithOrder + 432 22 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x937994b6 __CFRUNLOOP_IS_CALLING_OUT_TO_AN_OBSERVER_CALLBACK_FUNCTION__ + 22 23 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x937993d2 __CFRunLoopDoObservers + 498 24 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9377c81d __CFRunLoopRun + 1661 25 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9377be71 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 641 26 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9377bbda CFRunLoopRunInMode + 122 27 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92d7937b RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 321 28 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92d78f5f ReceiveNextEventCommon + 454 29 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92d78d7b _BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInModeWithFilter + 71 30 com.apple.AppKit 0x9137ab2d _DPSNextEvent + 2101 31 com.apple.AppKit 0x91aece8c 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libsystem_pthread.dylib 0xa757937a _pthread_start + 357 10 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0xa7578a56 thread_start + 34 Thread 2: 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0xa73c4152 __semwait_signal + 10 1 libsystem_c.dylib 0xa732fdb7 nanosleep$UNIX2003 + 189 2 org.pharo.Pharo 0x00127f30 beatStateMachine + 106 3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0xa75794d5 _pthread_body + 347 4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0xa757937a _pthread_start + 357 5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0xa7578a56 thread_start + 34 Thread 3:: com.apple.NSEventThread 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0xa73ba422 mach_msg_trap + 10 1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0xa73b9a5f mach_msg + 47 2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9377da88 __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 296 3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9377ca76 __CFRunLoopRun + 2262 4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9377be71 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 641 5 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9377bbda CFRunLoopRunInMode + 122 6 com.apple.AppKit 0x914aa57c _NSEventThread + 165 7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0xa75794d5 _pthread_body + 347 8 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0xa757937a _pthread_start + 357 9 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0xa7578a56 thread_start + 34 Thread 4: 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0xa73c471a __workq_kernreturn + 10 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0xa7578e64 _pthread_wqthread + 1035 2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0xa7578a32 start_wqthread + 34 Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit): eax: 0x00000000 ebx: 0xa983a1c0 ecx: 0xbff513cc edx: 0x00000000 edi: 0xa757c2ca esi: 0x0000002d ebp: 0xbff513f8 esp: 0xbff513cc ss: 0x00000023 efl: 0x00000206 eip: 0xa73c3eda cs: 0x0000000b ds: 0x00000023 es: 0x00000023 fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x0000000f cr2: 0x7d45f004 Logical CPU: 0 Error Code: 0x00080148 Trap Number: 132 Binary Images: 0xa5000 - 0x175ff7 +org.pharo.Pharo (5.0.201901051900 - 5.0.201901051900) <91D8A7F9-5FC3-3EB7-8198-D18F6262AF2A> /Users/USER/*/Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo 0x28a000 - 0x2d005f dyld (551.3) <AEE46C03-FE99-3D3F-9A28-119D4A885857> /usr/lib/dyld 0x260b000 - 0x260ffff com.apple.audio.AppleHDAHALPlugIn (281.52 - 281.52) 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0x4544464232333241314D412D4A442D460000 Memory Module: BANK 1/DIMM0, 8 GB, DDR3, 1867 MHz, 0x02FE, 0x4544464232333241314D412D4A442D460000 AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x14E4, 0x133), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (7.77.37.31.1a9) Bluetooth: Version 6.0.6f2, 3 services, 27 devices, 1 incoming serial ports Network Service: Wi-Fi, AirPort, en0 Serial ATA Device: APPLE SSD SM0512G, 500.28 GB USB Device: USB 3.0 Bus USB Device: Internal Memory Card Reader USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller Thunderbolt Bus: MacBook Pro, Apple Inc., 27.1 > On 15 Feb 2019, at 23:40, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)mackinnon.email> wrote: > > I will try not using full screen - but I guess it still stands that Iâm doing the same sort of things I did with 6 (where I did use full screen and an earlier iceberg - and donât recall the same level of instability). > > Again - Iâm still a fan, and want to forge forward - but I think we need to be careful. And I fully accept that - careful means all of us doing more testing and fixing more things ourselves. Itâs just the vm stuff and lower level iceberg are that much more difficult for more casual users to grapple with (although Iâm always impressed how far you can go) > > Tim > > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 15 Feb 2019, at 22:32, Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu> wrote: >> >> Depends on what you are doing, I guess. >> >> I am using the same P7 32bits image on linux since June 2018, but I am >> doing bare bone smalltalk, and I don't use iceberg. It could be the >> source of your problem as it is still new, or it could be the 64bits >> image/vm. You could give a try for the 32bits version for a few days.. >> >>> Le 15/02/2019 Ã 12:11, Tim Mackinnon a Ã©crit : >>> Iâm not sure if this is born out by others - but Iâm finding that Pharo 7 is a bit less stable than Pharo 6 - Iâm seeing quite a few seg-faults where the vm dies and terminates - both when the image is left running for a while, but also in fresh images where I do an Iceberg load of my projects. Iâve also seen a lot of weird things like corrupted fonts and keyboard focus/cursor keys not working properly. >> >> -- >> Dr. Geo >> http://drgeo.eu >> >> >>

Feb. 16, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Monticello diff between image and tonel repo

by Hilaire

Hi Ben, I am not looking at you reproducing the scenario (you asked for) as it is some work and the outcome may not be reliable as you mentioned it. Nevertheless, the steps I described will likely get you on the trouble and are easy to get in. But more on sharing experience on this topic, as I meet it several times. I think it is an important issue, I have since migrating to Tonel, and it needs to be reported. Closing Monticello windows and opening a fresh one helped to get the changes right, sometime... Other time, forcing flush cash on Monticello helps. But still, this really makes fell the environment to be fragile and inconstant for serious work. It seems Monticello is confused by two sources of package tonel, and mcz. Already meet this problem too. Hilaire PS: DrGeo is free software. Le 16/02/2019 Ã 10:52, Ben Coman a Ã©critÂ : > That isn't even close to "steps to reproduce". > > Thats just a lot of effort for me to produce scenario B that has a > high chance ofÂ > being entirely unrelated to scenario A you presented. > -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Feb. 16, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Monticello diff between image and tonel repo

by Ben Coman

Le 16/02/2019 Ã 07:23, Ben Coman a Ã©crit : > Its hard to determine what is wrong from the screen shot. > I'm probably not the one able to provide an answer, > but anyway... can you provide steps-to-reproduce in a fresh Image? On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 at 16:49, Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu> wrote: > Hi Ben, > > The screenshot shows two things: > > 1. In the top (black background), it shows the first lines of the file > 'DrGAngle3ptsOrientedItem.class.st' from the tonel repository, in > the DrGeoII-Core tonel package. In this source, you see a > 'CostumeClasse' method. > 2. In the second half of the screenshot, in the Pharo environment, > there are three windows to look at: > 1. in the background the Monticello window with the DrGeoII-Core > package selected from the tonel repo (the same as in 1.); > 2. on top of the Monticello window, the repository is open and you > can see its packages. The DrGeoII-Core package is selected; > 3. then the foreground window shows the changes between two > packages: one is the tonel package, the other one I don't know > (HilaireFernandes.7). Importantly, it look like costumClass > method does not exist in the tonel package, which is wrong as > seen in 1. That helped my understanding a lot. Its still a static snapshot though. It would be much easier to comment if I could scroll that changes list looking for patterns. > At the minimum, the information misrepresented, or I miss use the tool. Anyway it is confusing for me or not obvious, likely more confusing for > newbie which may think the tool is unreliable, and they want to go away. > > To reproduce, create a tonel repo, add package to this repo, or repo to > the package, and test the same as explained above. > That isn't even close to "steps to reproduce". Thats just a lot of effort for me to produce scenario B that has a high chance of being entirely unrelated to scenario A you presented. To make it easiest to help you, "steps to reproduce" means you hold my hand to *exactly* reproduce your screenshot. If you code is proprietary, you need to create a non-proprietary scenario B with the same problem which you can share in full. If that is too much effort for you, then its too much effort for me to GUESS at producing scenario B that is remotely close to your problem. Anyway, I'm a sucker and went digging anyway. I'm only *guessing* this is the referenced code... https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~drgeo-developers/drgeo/trunk/view/head:/src/D… What I notice is that all the "green-plus" methods are missing from there, and the "red-cross" method exists. So while I forget the semantics of each changes pane, perhaps you are reading it in reverse? "green-plus" methods are in Monticello package "red-cross" methods are missing from Monticello package HTH, YMMV, cheers -ben

Feb. 16, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Quality assistant

by Hilaire

Thanks Denis. By the way, Calypso is pretty cool. Le 15/02/2019 Ã 23:54, Denis Kudriashov a Ã©critÂ : > > Use following script to disable it: > > ClyCriticBrowserPlugin disable > -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Feb. 16, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Monticello diff between image and tonel repo

by Hilaire

Hi Ben, The screenshot shows two things: 1. In the top (black background), it shows the first lines of the file 'DrGAngle3ptsOrientedItem.class.st' from the tonel repository, in the DrGeoII-Core tonel package. In this source, you see a 'CostumeClasse' method. 2. In the second half of the screenshot, in the Pharo environment, there are three windows to look at: 1. in the background the Monticello window with the DrGeoII-Core package selected from the tonel repo (the same as in 1.); 2. on top of the Monticello window, the repository is open and you can see its packages. The DrGeoII-Core package is selected; 3. then the foreground window shows the changes between two packages: one is the tonel package, the other one I don't know (HilaireFernandes.7). Importantly, it look like costumClass method does not exist in the tonel package, which is wrong as seen in 1. At the minimum, the information misrepresented, or I miss use the tool. Anyway it is confusing for me or not obvious, likely more confusing for newbie which may think the tool is unreliable, and they want to go away. To reproduce, create a tonel repo, add package to this repo, or repo to the package, and test the same as explained above. Hilaire Le 16/02/2019 Ã 07:23, Ben Coman a Ã©critÂ : > Its hard to determine what is wrong from the screen shot. > I'm probably not the one able to provide an answer,Â > but anyway... can you provide steps-to-reproduce in a fresh Image? > -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Feb. 16, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Monticello diff between image and tonel repo

by Ben Coman

Its hard to determine what is wrong from the screen shot. I'm probably not the one able to provide an answer, but anyway... can you provide steps-to-reproduce in a fresh Image? cheers -ben On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 at 06:13, Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu> wrote: > Hi, > > I think I already report it but I still see this issue. From Monticello > when I request changes between image and my tonel repo I got wrong diff > report. It is a bit scarry. Will code be lost? You are not sure about > what really change. > > Or do I misunderstand something? > > See screenshot > > Hilaire > > -- > Dr. Geo > http://drgeo.eu > >

Feb. 16, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Iceberg working with forks - can it be easier?

by Ben Coman

On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 at 02:06, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> wrote: > Hi guys - Iâve spent a few hours scratching my head trying to understand > why some of my Pull Requests to a project I had forked kept showing my > previous commits when I thought I was all caught up. > > It suddenly dawned on me, that when I had forked, and then done some work > and then submitted a PR, and then applied it upstream that my fork is now > no longer in sync with its upstream counterpart. > > Having not done this in ages, it took me a while to then realise I have to > do some git stuff to get it back in sync e.g. (and I think Iâve got this > right) > > git fetch upstream (or whatever name you gave it) > Git checkout master > Git merge upstream/master > > So I guess my question is - wouldnât it be helpful if this was a command > in Iceberg? It seems quite common to fork a project (I think this is still > recommended for pharo itself isnât it?) - and then at some point you need > to catchup with that origin again? Or am I missing something? I guess lots > of stuff can go wrong - but if it does - youâd still get the same problems > on the command line. It just seems that for normal situations - it would be > handy to run this straight in Pharo. > I'm not fully-conversant with Iceberg, but if I guess right... in Iceberg, right-click a repo and open its "Repository" window. In the top-right click the "Add remote" button, to add the upstream repo. That button is a bit hidden there. It might be nice to have it as a menu item on "Remotes" in the first pane. Then click the <Merge> button, then select the upstream master branch and you should be up to date. cheers -ben

Feb. 16, 2019