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Re: [Pharo-users] Why doesn't collection have #excludes (the mirror of includes)?

by Richard O'Keefe

An old draft has been available for yonks through http://www.cs.otago.ac.nz/staffpriv/ok/software.htm There are two *major* changes not included in that release and not quite finished yet. On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 07:09, Esteban Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > El dom., 17 mar. 2019 a las 6:33, Sven Van Caekenberghe > (<sven(a)stfx.eu>) escribiÃ³: > > > > > > > > > On 17 Mar 2019, at 07:56, Richard O'Keefe <raoknz(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > (1) As it happens, my Smalltalk library *does* have > > > > "my mystery Smalltalk" ;-) > > Codename "Unicorn". :) > > Jokes aside, I'd love to see such implementation because all software > products developed by only a few minds, if not one at all, have a > level of coherence and parsimony that can't be achieved with a larger > team. I only saw it with Dolphin Smalltalk, and would love to see your > Unicorn Smalltalk as well. > > Regards, > > Esteban A. Maringolo > >

March 18, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Test skip isn't working?

by Christopher Fuhrman

What about: self skipOnClassRun: 'message'. ? On Mon, Mar 18, 2019, 15:53 Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > This is a tough one to consider. Dennis's position seems very reasonable, > but that Vitor got stuck is an indication of something missing. > Just one other option occurs to me, that a notification pops up saying > "force run skipped method", > but I'm not even sure that would be beneficial. > > cheers -ben > > On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 22:21, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> It is confusing because something unexpected and different from what is >> explicitly said on code happens... I consider it an error. >> >> I think It should execute informing the test is skipped or don't provide >> the click button at all. It took me a long time looking at skip >> implementation and trying different stuff until I figure I hadn't done >> anything wrong. >> >> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 4:22 AM Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I think it is a feature. When you click icon on a single test you >>> explicitly raise a wish to run it. >>> >>> Ð¿Ð½, 18 Ð¼Ð°Ñ. 2019 Ð³., 1:26 Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz(a)gmail.com>: >>> >>>> Skip only works when I run tests from class. If I click the test button >>>> from the method skipped it don't work, maybe an error in calypso? >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 3:13 PM Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> someTest >>>>> self skip: 'some message'. >>>>> >>>>> rest of the test >>>>> >>>>> Rest of the test is being executed. There is a different woy of >>>>> skipping tests? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Vitor. >>>>> >>>>

March 18, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Why doesn't collection have #excludes (the mirror of includes)?

by Dale Henrichs

Isn't this an "ultimate" goal for PharoÂ ... once you've got a stable (truly) minimum image, custom class libraries are possible if not desirable ... Dale On 3/18/19 11:08 AM, Esteban Maringolo wrote: > El dom., 17 mar. 2019 a las 6:33, Sven Van Caekenberghe > (<sven(a)stfx.eu>) escribiÃ³: >> >> >>> On 17 Mar 2019, at 07:56, Richard O'Keefe <raoknz(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> (1) As it happens, my Smalltalk library *does* have >> "my mystery Smalltalk" ;-) > Codename "Unicorn". :) > > Jokes aside, I'd love to see such implementation because all software > products developed by only a few minds, if not one at all, have a > level of coherence and parsimony that can't be achieved with a larger > team. I only saw it with Dolphin Smalltalk, and would love to see your > Unicorn Smalltalk as well. > > Regards, > > Esteban A. Maringolo >

March 18, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [Issue Trackker][Help Needed]: Move issues from Fogbugz to GitHub

by Tim Mackinnon

Marcus - do we just manually copy over the title and description (and any relevant comments) - or is there some tool to do this with? Tim > On 18 Mar 2019, at 07:38, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > Hi, > > We should all look at the old issues: > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/filters/57/All-newest-first <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/filters/57/All-newest-first> > > and move them to the new one: > > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues <https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues> > > instead of moving them automatically, we should take the chance to > clean up. > > Please check, first for the issues that *you* added: > > -> is it still relevant? > ->if yes: add a new issue on GitHub > ->close this issue, there is now an explicit âmoved to GitHubâ state. > > > Marcus

March 18, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Why doesn't collection have #excludes (the mirror of includes)?

by Esteban Maringolo

El dom., 17 mar. 2019 a las 6:33, Sven Van Caekenberghe (<sven(a)stfx.eu>) escribiÃ³: > > > > > On 17 Mar 2019, at 07:56, Richard O'Keefe <raoknz(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > (1) As it happens, my Smalltalk library *does* have > > "my mystery Smalltalk" ;-) Codename "Unicorn". :) Jokes aside, I'd love to see such implementation because all software products developed by only a few minds, if not one at all, have a level of coherence and parsimony that can't be achieved with a larger team. I only saw it with Dolphin Smalltalk, and would love to see your Unicorn Smalltalk as well. Regards, Esteban A. Maringolo

March 18, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Why doesn't collection have #excludes (the mirror of includes)?

by Tim Mackinnon

And looking at this in the code - there are quite a few variations of #includesâ¦ that I donât think it makes sense to write the mirror of all of them. Not it is... > On 18 Mar 2019, at 16:48, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> wrote: > > Thanks guys - I always learn something new from these threads. > >> On 17 Mar 2019, at 06:56, Richard O'Keefe <raoknz(a)gmail.com <mailto:raoknz@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> (1) As it happens, my Smalltalk library *does* have >> #excludes: and #identityExcludes: >> (2) The definitions are trivial. >> excludes: item >> ^(self includes: item) not >> identityExcludes: item >> ^(self identityIncludes: item) not >> >> If you want to execute aBlock when aString is not all zeros >> and ones, just do >> (aString allSatisfy: [:each | each = $0 or: [each = $1]]) >> ifFalse: [aBlock value]. >> or >> (aString anySatisfy: [:each | each ~= $0 and: [each ~= $1]]) >> ifTrue: [aBlock value]. >> or >> ('01' includesAll: aString) ifFalse: [aBlock value]. >> >> >> On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 at 11:33, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works <mailto:tim@testit.works>> wrote: >> Hi - in my quest to understand the edgier details of Pharo (and Smalltalk) - and driven by fresh thoughts of completing exercism exercises - I was surprised to find that there is no #excludes: operation on collection to mirror the #includes: operation? >> >> I was curious about this - its seems a strange omission? >> >> Of course I can inverse it with not, or do things a different way - but we have ifTrue: mirrored with ifFalse, empty/notEmpty so am I missing something? >> >> I wanted to write something like >> >> >> aString detect: [:c | ($0 to: $1) excludes: c] ifFound: aBlock. (Evaluate a block if the string isnât all 0 and 1âs) >> >> >> Of course I can write this as: >> >> (aString reject: [:c | c = $0 | c = $1)) ifNotEmpty: aBlock >> >> But as recent messages in this vein have shown me (and taught me lots - thanks to those answering), the answer is often not what I thought. >> >> Tim >> >> >

March 18, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Why doesn't collection have #excludes (the mirror of includes)?

by Tim Mackinnon

Thanks guys - I always learn something new from these threads. > On 17 Mar 2019, at 06:56, Richard O'Keefe <raoknz(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > (1) As it happens, my Smalltalk library *does* have > #excludes: and #identityExcludes: > (2) The definitions are trivial. > excludes: item > ^(self includes: item) not > identityExcludes: item > ^(self identityIncludes: item) not > > If you want to execute aBlock when aString is not all zeros > and ones, just do > (aString allSatisfy: [:each | each = $0 or: [each = $1]]) > ifFalse: [aBlock value]. > or > (aString anySatisfy: [:each | each ~= $0 and: [each ~= $1]]) > ifTrue: [aBlock value]. > or > ('01' includesAll: aString) ifFalse: [aBlock value]. > > > On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 at 11:33, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> wrote: > Hi - in my quest to understand the edgier details of Pharo (and Smalltalk) - and driven by fresh thoughts of completing exercism exercises - I was surprised to find that there is no #excludes: operation on collection to mirror the #includes: operation? > > I was curious about this - its seems a strange omission? > > Of course I can inverse it with not, or do things a different way - but we have ifTrue: mirrored with ifFalse, empty/notEmpty so am I missing something? > > I wanted to write something like > > > aString detect: [:c | ($0 to: $1) excludes: c] ifFound: aBlock. (Evaluate a block if the string isnât all 0 and 1âs) > > > Of course I can write this as: > > (aString reject: [:c | c = $0 | c = $1)) ifNotEmpty: aBlock > > But as recent messages in this vein have shown me (and taught me lots - thanks to those answering), the answer is often not what I thought. > > Tim > >

March 18, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] using spotter in pharo 7. but have many error.

by Sean P. DeNigris

peter yoo wrote > many error encounterd It looks like those errors are related to fonts, not spotter. Someone else can probably tell you more... ----- Cheers, Sean -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

March 18, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo refactoring rewrite tool?

by Tim Mackinnon

Ah cool - that sounds like what I was looking for - will give it a spin. Thanks > On 18 Mar 2019, at 11:46, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Tim, > > Recently I've sent a PR to load MatchTool in P7, you may want to check it out: > > https://github.com/Uko/MatchTool <https://github.com/Uko/MatchTool> > > Cheers, > > HernÃ¡n > > El dom., 17 mar. 2019 11:35 p. m., Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> escribiÃ³: > I recall there was a refactoring rewrite tool - but where is it in Pharo? Is it something you have to load separately? Or do you just copy some of the deprecated examples and do it manually? I thought there was something with a window where you typed in a rule and then it showed you what it would do? (Or was that only in Dolphin?) > > Thanks, > > Tim

March 18, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Test skip isn't working?

by Ben Coman

This is a tough one to consider. Dennis's position seems very reasonable, but that Vitor got stuck is an indication of something missing. Just one other option occurs to me, that a notification pops up saying "force run skipped method", but I'm not even sure that would be beneficial. cheers -ben On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 22:21, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz(a)gmail.com> wrote: > It is confusing because something unexpected and different from what is > explicitly said on code happens... I consider it an error. > > I think It should execute informing the test is skipped or don't provide > the click button at all. It took me a long time looking at skip > implementation and trying different stuff until I figure I hadn't done > anything wrong. > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 4:22 AM Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I think it is a feature. When you click icon on a single test you >> explicitly raise a wish to run it. >> >> Ð¿Ð½, 18 Ð¼Ð°Ñ. 2019 Ð³., 1:26 Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz(a)gmail.com>: >> >>> Skip only works when I run tests from class. If I click the test button >>> from the method skipped it don't work, maybe an error in calypso? >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 3:13 PM Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> someTest >>>> self skip: 'some message'. >>>> >>>> rest of the test >>>> >>>> Rest of the test is being executed. There is a different woy of >>>> skipping tests? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Vitor. >>>> >>>

March 18, 2019