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Re: [Pharo-users] Loading Gettext on already installed Seaside

by BrunoBB

Well, This method exist on GetText GemStone version. So i'm not quite sure what is going on. Maybe GS and Pharo version are not synchronized. regards, bruno -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

June 14, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Loading Gettext on already installed Seaside

by BrunoBB

Paul, Thanks for the pointer now i have passed the conflict. But i got a DNU: NaturalLanguageTranslator>>domainRegistered: This method does not exist. It seems that the following entry hsa the fix: http://forum.world.st/Error-loading-Seaside-Gettext-support-td4980855.html Close the walkback and evaluate: WAGettextExample initialize. Maybe NaturalLanguageTranslator>>domainRegistered: was present in Pharo early version but not in Pharo 7. This should be fixed. regards, bruno -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

June 14, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Loading Gettext on already installed Seaside

by Paul DeBruicker

Hi Add onConflict: [ :ex | ex allow ]; To your Metacello load instructions BrunoBB wrote > Hi, > > I have a Pharo 7.0 image with Seaside installed on it. > > Now i want to add Gettext but i'm not able to do it yet. > > Metacello new > baseline:'Seaside3'; > repository: 'github://SeasideSt/Seaside:master/repository'; > load: #('Seaside-Gettext-Core' 'Seaside-Gettext-Examples') > > Fail because 'Seaside-Gettext-Core' name not found. > > More likely because BaselineOfSeaside3>>baselinegettext: does not include > a > tag for Pharo 7. > > If i add (to include Pharo7): > spec for: #(#'pharo1.x' #'pharo2.x' #'pharo3.x' #'pharo4.x' #'pharo7.x') > > I got a conflict error: > 'MetacelloConflictingProjectError: Load Conflict between existing > BaselineOf...igurationOfGrease stable from > http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Seaside/MetacelloConfigurations/main'" > > The same result with: > Metacello new > baseline:'Seaside3'; > repository: 'github://SeasideSt/Seaside:master/repository'; > load: #('Gettext' 'Gettext-Examples') > > If i have Seaside already in my image how i should load Gettext ? > > regards, > bruno > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

June 14, 2019

Autocompletion

by TomaÅ¾ Turk

I managed to find some time to progress with my Smalltalk / Pharo learning and am going through the Spec booklet. I noticed that autocompletion most of the times works excellent, sometimes it struggles. For instance, if you prepare CustomerSatisfaction >> initializeWidgets buttonBad := self instantiate: ButtonPresenter. and then start to write buttonBad label: ... in the same method, the #label: selector is found immediately. However, if you say CustomerSatisfaction >> initializeWidgets buttonBad := self newButton. where ComposablePresenter >> newButton ^ self instantiate: ButtonPresenter and inherited by CustomerSatisfaction, then the #label: selector is not found by autocompleter (in the menu of choices). I'm just curious why is that so. For a novice, autocompleter is a life saver :-) Best wishes, Tomaz

June 14, 2019

Loading Gettext on already installed Seaside

by BrunoBB

Hi, I have a Pharo 7.0 image with Seaside installed on it. Now i want to add Gettext but i'm not able to do it yet. Metacello new baseline:'Seaside3'; repository: 'github://SeasideSt/Seaside:master/repository'; load: #('Seaside-Gettext-Core' 'Seaside-Gettext-Examples') Fail because 'Seaside-Gettext-Core' name not found. More likely because BaselineOfSeaside3>>baselinegettext: does not include a tag for Pharo 7. If i add (to include Pharo7): spec for: #(#'pharo1.x' #'pharo2.x' #'pharo3.x' #'pharo4.x' #'pharo7.x') I got a conflict error: 'MetacelloConflictingProjectError: Load Conflict between existing BaselineOf...igurationOfGrease stable from http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Seaside/MetacelloConfigurations/main'" The same result with: Metacello new baseline:'Seaside3'; repository: 'github://SeasideSt/Seaside:master/repository'; load: #('Gettext' 'Gettext-Examples') If i have Seaside already in my image how i should load Gettext ? regards, bruno -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

June 14, 2019

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by Mariano Martinez Peck

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June 14, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Can I code a web browser in a Pharo GUI window (Morphic or other)?

by Noury Bouraqadi

Hi Arie, Do you really need to code web browser, or is it acceptable to control a web browser from Pharo. This is what we do in PharoJS (http://pharojs.org <http://pharojs.org/>), for running tests. We also have a custom playground, so evaluate pharo expressions that are translated to javascript and executed by the web browser. Noury > On 14 Jun 2019, at 09:45, Arie van Wingerden <xapwing(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > for a project I need this kind of program: > client side only > must be able to programmatically show a web browser in a window (Morphic??); only local content will be shown > must also be able to show other windows, containing simple games > Now, I guess that 1 and 3 are possible straight away, but I am unsure about option 2. > > I found out that there are a few ways to do it: > using C#, which has: > standard web browser control out-of-the-box > third-party open source chromium web browser component > using Java, which (afaict) is a coding effort, but possible anyway > > That saiud, since I'd very much like to start using Pharo for more tasks (just starting) I wonder if Pharo has something to offer in this case. > > Many thx! > /Arie >

June 14, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Can I code a web browser in a Pharo GUI window (Morphic or other)?

by Ben Coman

On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 15:46, Arie van Wingerden <xapwing(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > for a project I need this kind of program: > > 1. client side only > 2. must be able to programmatically show a web browser in a window > (Morphic??); only local content will be shown > 3. must also be able to show other windows, containing simple games > > Now, I guess that 1 and 3 are possible straight away, but I am unsure > about option 2. > > I found out that there are a few ways to do it: > > - using C#, which has: > - standard web browser control out-of-the-box > - third-party open source chromium web browser component > - using Java, which (afaict) is a coding effort, but possible anyway > > > That said, since I'd very much like to start using Pharo for more tasks > (just starting) I wonder if Pharo has something to offer in this case. > The easier path is probably to connect to Chrome externally... http://forum.world.st/Chrome-DevTools-Protocol-and-Pharo-td4947589.html http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Chrome-was-Soup-bug-fix-td5020666.html http://forum.world.st/Web-scrapping-with-Pharo-Chrome-td5066882.html A heavier path is integrating Chromium via FFI. This is probably the most feasible path to a fully functioning browser. Many web browsers are a wrappers around Chromium, letting it do all the heavy lifting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_(web_browser)#Browsers_based_on_Chro… Pharo could do the same thing. Even Microsoft is doing this... https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/6/18128648/microsoft-edge-chrome-chromium-… I've previously linked a small sub-part of Chromium with Pharo. https://blog.openinworld.com/2017/11/pharo-pdf-part-1/ > In C# I can do this literally in a few hours, given the fact that ready made components exist. Depends on how you can balance your particular goals and time constraints, wrt the effort of getting a connection versus the effort of processing the data you get out of it. https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/is_it_worth_the_time.png cheers -ben

June 14, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Can I code a web browser in a Pharo GUI window (Morphic or other)?

by Arie van Wingerden

Hi Richard, Op vr 14 jun. 2019 om 12:58 schreef Richard O'Keefe <raoknz(a)gmail.com>: > There was a thread about this two years ago. > http://forum.world.st/Smalltalk-Internet-Browser-td4944879.html > Mmmm. Sounds not like a ready to use solution at all. Given the fact that I am a Pharo n00b it wouldn't be an easy way to go I guess. There is Scamper for Squeak, https://github.com/HPI-SWA-Teaching/Scamper > It used to come standard in Squeak. When I knew it, it couldn't quite > handle HTML 3.2. I imagine it was removed from Squeak (and SqueakMap) > because it was quite impractical to keep up with the rapid changes in > the web. It would be cruel to say that some browser engineers never > saw a feature they didn't like; the truth often hurts. > Same "problem" here I guess? > There is already something called tODE, which apparently can make Pharo > tools visible in browser windows. That may be a better way to go. > This one? https://github.com/dalehenrich/tode/blob/master/repository/Tode-Client-Phar… And what do you mean with "Pharo tools" here? ... > We already have the tools needed to talk to WebKit; there is very > little benefit to the Pharo team from pouring vast resources into > duplicating what already exists. > Of course, I agree! Would you be so kind to point me to some docs about this? May I conclude that *maybe* "tODE" and "the tools needed to talk to WebKit" are the best ways to achieve my goal(s)? But, between the lines I read that it would be a rough way (for me at least), which would be a bit too rough for me as aa Pharo n00b. In C# I can do this literally in a few hours, given the fact that ready made components exist. So, maybe I'd better stick with that for this project and try my hands on a bit easier and smaller Pharo projects :-) Anyway, I really appreciate the help! Many thx! /Arie

June 14, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Can I code a web browser in a Pharo GUI window (Morphic or other)?

by Richard O'Keefe

There was a thread about this two years ago. http://forum.world.st/Smalltalk-Internet-Browser-td4944879.html There is Scamper for Squeak, https://github.com/HPI-SWA-Teaching/Scamper It used to come standard in Squeak. When I knew it, it couldn't quite handle HTML 3.2. I imagine it was removed from Squeak (and SqueakMap) because it was quite impractical to keep up with the rapid changes in the web. It would be cruel to say that some browser engineers never saw a feature they didn't like; the truth often hurts. There is already something called tODE, which apparently can make Pharo tools visible in browser windows. That may be a better way to go. ST/X went to the trouble of including its own Javascript and JVM implementations, but of course JS changes quite rapidly too and is no longer the little language it was when introduced. Heck, the ECMAScript specification is bigger than the source code listing of the mainframe operating system I used as an undergraduate. We already have the tools needed to talk to WebKit; there is very little benefit to the Pharo team from pouring vast resources into duplicating what already exists. On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 19:46, Arie van Wingerden <xapwing(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > for a project I need this kind of program: > > 1. client side only > 2. must be able to programmatically show a web browser in a window > (Morphic??); only local content will be shown > 3. must also be able to show other windows, containing simple games > > Now, I guess that 1 and 3 are possible straight away, but I am unsure > about option 2. > > I found out that there are a few ways to do it: > > - using C#, which has: > - standard web browser control out-of-the-box > - third-party open source chromium web browser component > - using Java, which (afaict) is a coding effort, but possible anyway > > > That saiud, since I'd very much like to start using Pharo for more tasks > (just starting) I wonder if Pharo has something to offer in this case. > > Many thx! > /Arie > >

June 14, 2019