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Re: [Pharo-users] MethodName

by Benjamin Van Ryseghem

> > Message: 1 > From: Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > > Hi Benjamin. Thanks a lot for all the work you are doing. When we start to > build PharoDev 1.2 I would like to include your new recent submission and > this method finder. > Thank you, it's a good news to hear :) > It is very good idea to merge both, as it was very confusing. > > Here is my feedback > > 1) You have to provide a help text somewhere. Ok, entering a message name > is > easy. For example, if I want to see all messages like #setUp for example. > That's intuitive. But, if I want to search the method that sending to an > object 'aaa' answers me 'AAA', it is not intuitive to type: 'aaa' . 'AAA' . > so....this should be explained somewhere. Maybe you can add a text > explaining this (like it was in the previous tool) in the code panel. > Because when you first open MethodName, the code panel is empy...you can > use > is and write there the text. Of course, an extra button help would be nice > too :) > Now, instead of having an empty text area, the method finder help is diplayed. About the button, I have no idea where to add it in the UI (it's already quite full) > > 2) In addition to 1) writing a HelpSystem chapter / Pharo Collaborative > book > is important. What I mean is that if we are going to include a new tool in > the Pharo mainstream, then it should be easy to use and documented. > I'm agree to try writing one, but I need further informations (and probably some help ) :) > > 3) The scroll of "change search envirorment" is veryyyyyyy slow. I know it > is not "your" fault, but maybe someone can give you an idea of how to > improve this. Maybe Tudor, Alexandre, Lukas, Gary...I don't know. > I've forgotten to initialize a class variable in PackageChooserUI. Now the default behavior is to show only packages. This way, the chooser is quick enough. I worked on a Package->Classes representation but it's slow and I had some trouble with selection so i've choosen to wait until packages be Objects instead of String to resume this part. 4) Most of the buttons are confusing because you don't know when you should > be able to use them. For example, all the button (browse, senders, etc) are > only usable when you select a specific implementor. But > > a) they are not disable at the beginning (before choosing a selector), thus > someone would try to use them just after selecting a method name. > > b) not all of them require an implementor. For example, to search the > senders, I don't need to select a particular implementor. Just having the > selector is enough. > > So...I would put those buttons inside the right panel (where you list the > implementors) or disable (grey) them when not needed. > It's fixed now :) > > 5) This one is difficult to explain....Take method name and type in the > serach inpit: 'aaa' . 'AAA'. Hit serach and you will see 'aaa' asUppercase > -> 'AAA' listed in the left panel. If you click EVERYWHERE inside that > panel, the first one is selected. Thus, it is easy and fast becasue you > DONT > need to go the the first raw and mark it. Ok? > > Now....do the same but write "setUp". You will see several methods that > match that. Select any of them, and in the right panel you will have a > list. > A lot of times, there is one implementor. And of course you want > that....but > doing the same of the previous case doesn't work. You have to go exactly to > that raw in order to select it. > > okok...I know, I am lazy :) > I'm pretty lazy too so now, if it's possible, the first choice isautomaticallychoosen ^^ Moreover, when a Method Name window is open, the focus is already given to the searching text area :) > > Thanks again for this > > Mariano > Thank you for your advice ^^ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 2 > > > Hi Benjamin. Thanks a lot for all the work you are doing. When we start > to build PharoDev 1.2 I would like to include your new recent submission and > this method finder. > > > I want to integrate recentMessage to replace the default one. > Same for the new Finder once it is ready. > I did not have the time. > I think that this is important to take the time to rethink what we want. > > Stef > Thank you :) Ben

Aug. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] WebClient

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Sven andreas fixed a some behavior in socket and socketStream so may be we should use a more recent version of WebClient-Core than of of 10 of august. What do you think? Stef On Aug 23, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>> WebClient-Tests-ar.25 from Andreas' WebClient repo > > On 23 Aug 2010, at 17:45, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Should I take the tests from your repository or from the one of andreas? >> >> On Aug 23, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> >>> Well, I just ran the units tests in Pharo1.2a #12107 and with this version >>> >>> http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberg… >>> >>> ==================== Summary ==================== >>> >>> Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.64 >>> Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe >>> Time: 23 August 2010, 5:02:04 pm >>> UUID: 2cb4f11d-870a-45f0-bcde-e61351e7edf2 >>> Ancestors: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.63 >>> >>> replaced SmalltalkImage current platformName with OSPlatform current platformFamily >>> >>> We go from all red to 33 passed out of 39, 6 errors. >>> >>> If we could solve his usage of #pathForFile I think we can make some more tests succeed. >>> >>> I'll see if I can fix some more low hanging bugs. >>> >>> Sven >>> >>> On 23 Aug 2010, at 16:56, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>>> excellent! excellent! >>>> Let me know. I'm working on papers but I want to integrate such packages so that >>>> brave souls can start removing some of the ugly part of Network :) >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>>> >>>>> The last version that I patched for Pharo is: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberg… >>>>> >>>>> ==================== Summary ==================== >>>>> >>>>> Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.63 >>>>> Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe >>>>> Time: 12 August 2010, 10:46:11 am >>>>> UUID: 149d44b2-138b-4d63-a158-f587b2bd391d >>>>> Ancestors: WebClient-Core-ar.62 >>>>> >>>>> added some more #asString's where needed to deal with the different semantics of #, in Squeak vs Pharo; removed usage of #and:and:and:and: with a composition of #and: in WebClient>>connect >>>>> >>>>> Andreas did not respond to my email... >>>>> The Tests corresponding to WebClient-Core-ar.62 (the ancestor) are WebClient-Tests-ar.25. >>>>> I am right now having a quick look at the unit tests in PharoCore 1.2. >>>>> >>>>> Sven >>>>> >>>>> On 23 Aug 2010, at 15:50, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sven >>>>>> >>>>>> I want now to integrate webClient in 1.2 do you have a suggestion where and which packages I should take? >>>>>> Some in a Day at a beach ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Stef >>>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:12 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, I did some effort before and got Andreas to include a number of patches so that his WebClient-Core loaded into Pharo without a need for a compatibility layer. The lastest version does no longer have this property ;-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I again submitted some patches to Andreas ( http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Core-port-to-Pharo-1-1-final-td2322411.html… ) but he hasn't responded yet. Futhermore, I did not yet fix everything, but the code works for my purposes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As I discussed with StÃ©phane, it is not clear for me how this must go further, since we keep on running 'behind'. So it is good to discuss this here. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sven >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 13 Aug 2010, at 17:24, Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ MartÃnez wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> El vie, 13-08-2010 a las 12:11 +0200, StÃ©phane Ducasse escribiÃ³: >>>>>>>>> Since we agree that we want to use WebClient in pharo by default, it would be nice to start >>>>>>>>> pushing it into 1.2. I was waiting a bit to get some more feedback. What we could do >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> - load it in 1.2 >>>>>>>>> - update it when andreas publish new versions >>>>>>>>> - start forwarding to webClient >>>>>>>>> - remove the other code slowly >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What do you think? >>>>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> +1, I think GermÃ¡n Arduino began the work to include WebClient in Pharo. >>>>>>>> He could give an update. >>>>>>>> Also, now that WebClient includes OAuth support Seaside apps and Pharo >>>>>>>> in general could benefit by allowing connecting to Twitter and Facebook >>>>>>>> sites. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Andreas Raab's 'new' WebClient/WebServer seems quite nice, as he says himself: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As a result, we now have what I think is a pretty decent HTTP server and client implementation for Squeak 4.1 and hopefully we can nuke HTTPSocket sometime soon. WebClient is superior in every respect. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Is this something that will / should fit seamlessly into Pharo ? Or even become preinstalled ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I didn't try his ConfigurationOfWebClient since the last version was unreadable and it seemed like an experiment, while his textual explanation was easy to follow. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To load it into and to make the unit tests run in Pharo 1.0 I had to make a couple of fixes (to WebCookie#printOn: and WebServer class#serverString). Who should I sent these changes to ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But even then 1 unit test failed (#testServerDestroy). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Furthermore, some the changes in his package WebClient-Pharo seem a bit dangerous, especially a modification to SocketStream#peek (and the failed test was doing a peek) and an override of String#, some others are unneccessary as far as I can see. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sven >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Sven Van Caekenberghe - mailto:sven@beta9.be >>>>>>>>>> Beta Nine - software engineering - http://www.beta9.be >>>>>>>>>> .Mac - svc(a)mac.com - http://homepage.mac.com/svc >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>>>>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>>>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Miguel CobÃ¡ >>>>>>>> http://miguel.leugim.com.mx >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-users mailing list >>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

Aug. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] WebClient

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

OK, I will do that later today... On 23 Aug 2010, at 17:40, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > BTW sven did you sign the license agreement? > Could you do it? > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/LicenseAgreement > > no need for a nice stamp :) > you can scan it and send it to me by boring email :) > Thanks > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ListOfOkCommitters > > On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > >> http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

Aug. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] WebClient

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

why not taking the latest one core and test from webclient and reapplying your changes? Stef On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > The last version that I patched for Pharo is: > > http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberg… > > ==================== Summary ==================== > > Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.63 > Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe > Time: 12 August 2010, 10:46:11 am > UUID: 149d44b2-138b-4d63-a158-f587b2bd391d > Ancestors: WebClient-Core-ar.62 > > added some more #asString's where needed to deal with the different semantics of #, in Squeak vs Pharo; removed usage of #and:and:and:and: with a composition of #and: in WebClient>>connect > > Andreas did not respond to my email... > The Tests corresponding to WebClient-Core-ar.62 (the ancestor) are WebClient-Tests-ar.25. > I am right now having a quick look at the unit tests in PharoCore 1.2. > > Sven > > On 23 Aug 2010, at 15:50, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Sven >> >> I want now to integrate webClient in 1.2 do you have a suggestion where and which packages I should take? >> Some in a Day at a beach ? >> >> Stef >> >> On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:12 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> >>> Well, I did some effort before and got Andreas to include a number of patches so that his WebClient-Core loaded into Pharo without a need for a compatibility layer. The lastest version does no longer have this property ;-) >>> >>> I again submitted some patches to Andreas ( http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Core-port-to-Pharo-1-1-final-td2322411.html… ) but he hasn't responded yet. Futhermore, I did not yet fix everything, but the code works for my purposes. >>> >>> As I discussed with StÃ©phane, it is not clear for me how this must go further, since we keep on running 'behind'. So it is good to discuss this here. >>> >>> Sven >>> >>> On 13 Aug 2010, at 17:24, Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ MartÃnez wrote: >>> >>>> El vie, 13-08-2010 a las 12:11 +0200, StÃ©phane Ducasse escribiÃ³: >>>>> Since we agree that we want to use WebClient in pharo by default, it would be nice to start >>>>> pushing it into 1.2. I was waiting a bit to get some more feedback. What we could do >>>>> is >>>>> - load it in 1.2 >>>>> - update it when andreas publish new versions >>>>> - start forwarding to webClient >>>>> - remove the other code slowly >>>>> >>>>> What do you think? >>>>> Stef >>>> >>>> +1, I think GermÃ¡n Arduino began the work to include WebClient in Pharo. >>>> He could give an update. >>>> Also, now that WebClient includes OAuth support Seaside apps and Pharo >>>> in general could benefit by allowing connecting to Twitter and Facebook >>>> sites. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Andreas Raab's 'new' WebClient/WebServer seems quite nice, as he says himself: >>>>>> >>>>>> As a result, we now have what I think is a pretty decent HTTP server and client implementation for Squeak 4.1 and hopefully we can nuke HTTPSocket sometime soon. WebClient is superior in every respect. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is this something that will / should fit seamlessly into Pharo ? Or even become preinstalled ? >>>>>> >>>>>> I didn't try his ConfigurationOfWebClient since the last version was unreadable and it seemed like an experiment, while his textual explanation was easy to follow. >>>>>> >>>>>> To load it into and to make the unit tests run in Pharo 1.0 I had to make a couple of fixes (to WebCookie#printOn: and WebServer class#serverString). Who should I sent these changes to ? >>>>>> >>>>>> But even then 1 unit test failed (#testServerDestroy). >>>>>> >>>>>> Furthermore, some the changes in his package WebClient-Pharo seem a bit dangerous, especially a modification to SocketStream#peek (and the failed test was doing a peek) and an override of String#, some others are unneccessary as far as I can see. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sven >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Sven Van Caekenberghe - mailto:sven@beta9.be >>>>>> Beta Nine - software engineering - http://www.beta9.be >>>>>> .Mac - svc(a)mac.com - http://homepage.mac.com/svc >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Miguel CobÃ¡ >>>> http://miguel.leugim.com.mx >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-users mailing list >>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

Aug. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] WebClient

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

>> WebClient-Tests-ar.25 from Andreas' WebClient repo On 23 Aug 2010, at 17:45, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Should I take the tests from your repository or from the one of andreas? > > On Aug 23, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > >> Well, I just ran the units tests in Pharo1.2a #12107 and with this version >> >> http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberg… >> >> ==================== Summary ==================== >> >> Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.64 >> Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe >> Time: 23 August 2010, 5:02:04 pm >> UUID: 2cb4f11d-870a-45f0-bcde-e61351e7edf2 >> Ancestors: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.63 >> >> replaced SmalltalkImage current platformName with OSPlatform current platformFamily >> >> We go from all red to 33 passed out of 39, 6 errors. >> >> If we could solve his usage of #pathForFile I think we can make some more tests succeed. >> >> I'll see if I can fix some more low hanging bugs. >> >> Sven >> >> On 23 Aug 2010, at 16:56, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> excellent! excellent! >>> Let me know. I'm working on papers but I want to integrate such packages so that >>> brave souls can start removing some of the ugly part of Network :) >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>> >>>> The last version that I patched for Pharo is: >>>> >>>> http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberg… >>>> >>>> ==================== Summary ==================== >>>> >>>> Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.63 >>>> Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe >>>> Time: 12 August 2010, 10:46:11 am >>>> UUID: 149d44b2-138b-4d63-a158-f587b2bd391d >>>> Ancestors: WebClient-Core-ar.62 >>>> >>>> added some more #asString's where needed to deal with the different semantics of #, in Squeak vs Pharo; removed usage of #and:and:and:and: with a composition of #and: in WebClient>>connect >>>> >>>> Andreas did not respond to my email... >>>> The Tests corresponding to WebClient-Core-ar.62 (the ancestor) are WebClient-Tests-ar.25. >>>> I am right now having a quick look at the unit tests in PharoCore 1.2. >>>> >>>> Sven >>>> >>>> On 23 Aug 2010, at 15:50, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sven >>>>> >>>>> I want now to integrate webClient in 1.2 do you have a suggestion where and which packages I should take? >>>>> Some in a Day at a beach ? >>>>> >>>>> Stef >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:12 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Well, I did some effort before and got Andreas to include a number of patches so that his WebClient-Core loaded into Pharo without a need for a compatibility layer. The lastest version does no longer have this property ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> I again submitted some patches to Andreas ( http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Core-port-to-Pharo-1-1-final-td2322411.html… ) but he hasn't responded yet. Futhermore, I did not yet fix everything, but the code works for my purposes. >>>>>> >>>>>> As I discussed with StÃ©phane, it is not clear for me how this must go further, since we keep on running 'behind'. So it is good to discuss this here. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sven >>>>>> >>>>>> On 13 Aug 2010, at 17:24, Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ MartÃnez wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> El vie, 13-08-2010 a las 12:11 +0200, StÃ©phane Ducasse escribiÃ³: >>>>>>>> Since we agree that we want to use WebClient in pharo by default, it would be nice to start >>>>>>>> pushing it into 1.2. I was waiting a bit to get some more feedback. What we could do >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> - load it in 1.2 >>>>>>>> - update it when andreas publish new versions >>>>>>>> - start forwarding to webClient >>>>>>>> - remove the other code slowly >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What do you think? >>>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +1, I think GermÃ¡n Arduino began the work to include WebClient in Pharo. >>>>>>> He could give an update. >>>>>>> Also, now that WebClient includes OAuth support Seaside apps and Pharo >>>>>>> in general could benefit by allowing connecting to Twitter and Facebook >>>>>>> sites. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Andreas Raab's 'new' WebClient/WebServer seems quite nice, as he says himself: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As a result, we now have what I think is a pretty decent HTTP server and client implementation for Squeak 4.1 and hopefully we can nuke HTTPSocket sometime soon. WebClient is superior in every respect. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is this something that will / should fit seamlessly into Pharo ? Or even become preinstalled ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I didn't try his ConfigurationOfWebClient since the last version was unreadable and it seemed like an experiment, while his textual explanation was easy to follow. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To load it into and to make the unit tests run in Pharo 1.0 I had to make a couple of fixes (to WebCookie#printOn: and WebServer class#serverString). Who should I sent these changes to ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But even then 1 unit test failed (#testServerDestroy). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Furthermore, some the changes in his package WebClient-Pharo seem a bit dangerous, especially a modification to SocketStream#peek (and the failed test was doing a peek) and an override of String#, some others are unneccessary as far as I can see. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sven >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Sven Van Caekenberghe - mailto:sven@beta9.be >>>>>>>>> Beta Nine - software engineering - http://www.beta9.be >>>>>>>>> .Mac - svc(a)mac.com - http://homepage.mac.com/svc >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>>>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Miguel CobÃ¡ >>>>>>> http://miguel.leugim.com.mx >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-users mailing list >>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

Aug. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] WebClient

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

OK, I am now down to: 39 run, 35 passes, 0 expected failures, 2 failures, 2 errors, 0 unexpected passes with these changes (one in Network-Protocols): http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/Network-Protocols-SvenVanCaekenb… ==================== Summary ==================== Name: Network-Protocols-SvenVanCaekenberghe.55 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 23 August 2010, 5:39:26 pm UUID: a4c1d9b7-7c93-4ef4-9d42-8d68469c4b88 Ancestors: Network-Protocols-StephaneDucasse.54 fixed some bogus use of #pathForFile http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberg… ==================== Summary ==================== Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.65 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 23 August 2010, 5:41:08 pm UUID: ec666b24-88a0-4780-a620-c026e5329259 Ancestors: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.64 fixed some bogus use of #pathForFile replaced #squeakToUtf8 with explicit UTF8TextConverter call added yet another #asString The 2 errors are really at the socket level. The 2 failures in WebSockets, a newer spec I am not familiar with. Sven On 23 Aug 2010, at 17:28, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > excellent. > > Stef > > On Aug 23, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > >> Well, I just ran the units tests in Pharo1.2a #12107 and with this version >> >> http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberg… >> >> ==================== Summary ==================== >> >> Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.64 >> Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe >> Time: 23 August 2010, 5:02:04 pm >> UUID: 2cb4f11d-870a-45f0-bcde-e61351e7edf2 >> Ancestors: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.63 >> >> replaced SmalltalkImage current platformName with OSPlatform current platformFamily >> >> We go from all red to 33 passed out of 39, 6 errors. >> >> If we could solve his usage of #pathForFile I think we can make some more tests succeed. >> >> I'll see if I can fix some more low hanging bugs. >> >> Sven >> >> On 23 Aug 2010, at 16:56, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> excellent! excellent! >>> Let me know. I'm working on papers but I want to integrate such packages so that >>> brave souls can start removing some of the ugly part of Network :) >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>> >>>> The last version that I patched for Pharo is: >>>> >>>> http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberg… >>>> >>>> ==================== Summary ==================== >>>> >>>> Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.63 >>>> Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe >>>> Time: 12 August 2010, 10:46:11 am >>>> UUID: 149d44b2-138b-4d63-a158-f587b2bd391d >>>> Ancestors: WebClient-Core-ar.62 >>>> >>>> added some more #asString's where needed to deal with the different semantics of #, in Squeak vs Pharo; removed usage of #and:and:and:and: with a composition of #and: in WebClient>>connect >>>> >>>> Andreas did not respond to my email... >>>> The Tests corresponding to WebClient-Core-ar.62 (the ancestor) are WebClient-Tests-ar.25. >>>> I am right now having a quick look at the unit tests in PharoCore 1.2. >>>> >>>> Sven >>>> >>>> On 23 Aug 2010, at 15:50, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sven >>>>> >>>>> I want now to integrate webClient in 1.2 do you have a suggestion where and which packages I should take? >>>>> Some in a Day at a beach ? >>>>> >>>>> Stef >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:12 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Well, I did some effort before and got Andreas to include a number of patches so that his WebClient-Core loaded into Pharo without a need for a compatibility layer. The lastest version does no longer have this property ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> I again submitted some patches to Andreas ( http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Core-port-to-Pharo-1-1-final-td2322411.html… ) but he hasn't responded yet. Futhermore, I did not yet fix everything, but the code works for my purposes. >>>>>> >>>>>> As I discussed with StÃ©phane, it is not clear for me how this must go further, since we keep on running 'behind'. So it is good to discuss this here. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sven >>>>>> >>>>>> On 13 Aug 2010, at 17:24, Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ MartÃnez wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> El vie, 13-08-2010 a las 12:11 +0200, StÃ©phane Ducasse escribiÃ³: >>>>>>>> Since we agree that we want to use WebClient in pharo by default, it would be nice to start >>>>>>>> pushing it into 1.2. I was waiting a bit to get some more feedback. What we could do >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> - load it in 1.2 >>>>>>>> - update it when andreas publish new versions >>>>>>>> - start forwarding to webClient >>>>>>>> - remove the other code slowly >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What do you think? >>>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +1, I think GermÃ¡n Arduino began the work to include WebClient in Pharo. >>>>>>> He could give an update. >>>>>>> Also, now that WebClient includes OAuth support Seaside apps and Pharo >>>>>>> in general could benefit by allowing connecting to Twitter and Facebook >>>>>>> sites. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Andreas Raab's 'new' WebClient/WebServer seems quite nice, as he says himself: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As a result, we now have what I think is a pretty decent HTTP server and client implementation for Squeak 4.1 and hopefully we can nuke HTTPSocket sometime soon. WebClient is superior in every respect. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is this something that will / should fit seamlessly into Pharo ? Or even become preinstalled ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I didn't try his ConfigurationOfWebClient since the last version was unreadable and it seemed like an experiment, while his textual explanation was easy to follow. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To load it into and to make the unit tests run in Pharo 1.0 I had to make a couple of fixes (to WebCookie#printOn: and WebServer class#serverString). Who should I sent these changes to ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But even then 1 unit test failed (#testServerDestroy). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Furthermore, some the changes in his package WebClient-Pharo seem a bit dangerous, especially a modification to SocketStream#peek (and the failed test was doing a peek) and an override of String#, some others are unneccessary as far as I can see. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sven >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Sven Van Caekenberghe - mailto:sven@beta9.be >>>>>>>>> Beta Nine - software engineering - http://www.beta9.be >>>>>>>>> .Mac - svc(a)mac.com - http://homepage.mac.com/svc

Aug. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] WebClient

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Should I take the tests from your repository or from the one of andreas? On Aug 23, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Well, I just ran the units tests in Pharo1.2a #12107 and with this version > > http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberg… > > ==================== Summary ==================== > > Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.64 > Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe > Time: 23 August 2010, 5:02:04 pm > UUID: 2cb4f11d-870a-45f0-bcde-e61351e7edf2 > Ancestors: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.63 > > replaced SmalltalkImage current platformName with OSPlatform current platformFamily > > We go from all red to 33 passed out of 39, 6 errors. > > If we could solve his usage of #pathForFile I think we can make some more tests succeed. > > I'll see if I can fix some more low hanging bugs. > > Sven > > On 23 Aug 2010, at 16:56, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> excellent! excellent! >> Let me know. I'm working on papers but I want to integrate such packages so that >> brave souls can start removing some of the ugly part of Network :) >> >> Stef >> >> On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> >>> The last version that I patched for Pharo is: >>> >>> http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberg… >>> >>> ==================== Summary ==================== >>> >>> Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.63 >>> Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe >>> Time: 12 August 2010, 10:46:11 am >>> UUID: 149d44b2-138b-4d63-a158-f587b2bd391d >>> Ancestors: WebClient-Core-ar.62 >>> >>> added some more #asString's where needed to deal with the different semantics of #, in Squeak vs Pharo; removed usage of #and:and:and:and: with a composition of #and: in WebClient>>connect >>> >>> Andreas did not respond to my email... >>> The Tests corresponding to WebClient-Core-ar.62 (the ancestor) are WebClient-Tests-ar.25. >>> I am right now having a quick look at the unit tests in PharoCore 1.2. >>> >>> Sven >>> >>> On 23 Aug 2010, at 15:50, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>>> Sven >>>> >>>> I want now to integrate webClient in 1.2 do you have a suggestion where and which packages I should take? >>>> Some in a Day at a beach ? >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:12 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well, I did some effort before and got Andreas to include a number of patches so that his WebClient-Core loaded into Pharo without a need for a compatibility layer. The lastest version does no longer have this property ;-) >>>>> >>>>> I again submitted some patches to Andreas ( http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Core-port-to-Pharo-1-1-final-td2322411.html… ) but he hasn't responded yet. Futhermore, I did not yet fix everything, but the code works for my purposes. >>>>> >>>>> As I discussed with StÃ©phane, it is not clear for me how this must go further, since we keep on running 'behind'. So it is good to discuss this here. >>>>> >>>>> Sven >>>>> >>>>> On 13 Aug 2010, at 17:24, Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ MartÃnez wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> El vie, 13-08-2010 a las 12:11 +0200, StÃ©phane Ducasse escribiÃ³: >>>>>>> Since we agree that we want to use WebClient in pharo by default, it would be nice to start >>>>>>> pushing it into 1.2. I was waiting a bit to get some more feedback. What we could do >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> - load it in 1.2 >>>>>>> - update it when andreas publish new versions >>>>>>> - start forwarding to webClient >>>>>>> - remove the other code slowly >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What do you think? >>>>>>> Stef >>>>>> >>>>>> +1, I think GermÃ¡n Arduino began the work to include WebClient in Pharo. >>>>>> He could give an update. >>>>>> Also, now that WebClient includes OAuth support Seaside apps and Pharo >>>>>> in general could benefit by allowing connecting to Twitter and Facebook >>>>>> sites. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Andreas Raab's 'new' WebClient/WebServer seems quite nice, as he says himself: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As a result, we now have what I think is a pretty decent HTTP server and client implementation for Squeak 4.1 and hopefully we can nuke HTTPSocket sometime soon. WebClient is superior in every respect. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is this something that will / should fit seamlessly into Pharo ? Or even become preinstalled ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I didn't try his ConfigurationOfWebClient since the last version was unreadable and it seemed like an experiment, while his textual explanation was easy to follow. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To load it into and to make the unit tests run in Pharo 1.0 I had to make a couple of fixes (to WebCookie#printOn: and WebServer class#serverString). Who should I sent these changes to ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But even then 1 unit test failed (#testServerDestroy). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Furthermore, some the changes in his package WebClient-Pharo seem a bit dangerous, especially a modification to SocketStream#peek (and the failed test was doing a peek) and an override of String#, some others are unneccessary as far as I can see. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sven >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Sven Van Caekenberghe - mailto:sven@beta9.be >>>>>>>> Beta Nine - software engineering - http://www.beta9.be >>>>>>>> .Mac - svc(a)mac.com - http://homepage.mac.com/svc >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Miguel CobÃ¡ >>>>>> http://miguel.leugim.com.mx >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-users mailing list >>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

Aug. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] WebClient

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

BTW sven did you sign the license agreement? Could you do it? http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/LicenseAgreement no need for a nice stamp :) you can scan it and send it to me by boring email :) Thanks http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ListOfOkCommitters On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/

Aug. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] WebClient

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

excellent. Stef On Aug 23, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Well, I just ran the units tests in Pharo1.2a #12107 and with this version > > http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberg… > > ==================== Summary ==================== > > Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.64 > Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe > Time: 23 August 2010, 5:02:04 pm > UUID: 2cb4f11d-870a-45f0-bcde-e61351e7edf2 > Ancestors: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.63 > > replaced SmalltalkImage current platformName with OSPlatform current platformFamily > > We go from all red to 33 passed out of 39, 6 errors. > > If we could solve his usage of #pathForFile I think we can make some more tests succeed. > > I'll see if I can fix some more low hanging bugs. > > Sven > > On 23 Aug 2010, at 16:56, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> excellent! excellent! >> Let me know. I'm working on papers but I want to integrate such packages so that >> brave souls can start removing some of the ugly part of Network :) >> >> Stef >> >> On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> >>> The last version that I patched for Pharo is: >>> >>> http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberg… >>> >>> ==================== Summary ==================== >>> >>> Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.63 >>> Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe >>> Time: 12 August 2010, 10:46:11 am >>> UUID: 149d44b2-138b-4d63-a158-f587b2bd391d >>> Ancestors: WebClient-Core-ar.62 >>> >>> added some more #asString's where needed to deal with the different semantics of #, in Squeak vs Pharo; removed usage of #and:and:and:and: with a composition of #and: in WebClient>>connect >>> >>> Andreas did not respond to my email... >>> The Tests corresponding to WebClient-Core-ar.62 (the ancestor) are WebClient-Tests-ar.25. >>> I am right now having a quick look at the unit tests in PharoCore 1.2. >>> >>> Sven >>> >>> On 23 Aug 2010, at 15:50, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>>> Sven >>>> >>>> I want now to integrate webClient in 1.2 do you have a suggestion where and which packages I should take? >>>> Some in a Day at a beach ? >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:12 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well, I did some effort before and got Andreas to include a number of patches so that his WebClient-Core loaded into Pharo without a need for a compatibility layer. The lastest version does no longer have this property ;-) >>>>> >>>>> I again submitted some patches to Andreas ( http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Core-port-to-Pharo-1-1-final-td2322411.html… ) but he hasn't responded yet. Futhermore, I did not yet fix everything, but the code works for my purposes. >>>>> >>>>> As I discussed with StÃ©phane, it is not clear for me how this must go further, since we keep on running 'behind'. So it is good to discuss this here. >>>>> >>>>> Sven >>>>> >>>>> On 13 Aug 2010, at 17:24, Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ MartÃnez wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> El vie, 13-08-2010 a las 12:11 +0200, StÃ©phane Ducasse escribiÃ³: >>>>>>> Since we agree that we want to use WebClient in pharo by default, it would be nice to start >>>>>>> pushing it into 1.2. I was waiting a bit to get some more feedback. What we could do >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> - load it in 1.2 >>>>>>> - update it when andreas publish new versions >>>>>>> - start forwarding to webClient >>>>>>> - remove the other code slowly >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What do you think? >>>>>>> Stef >>>>>> >>>>>> +1, I think GermÃ¡n Arduino began the work to include WebClient in Pharo. >>>>>> He could give an update. >>>>>> Also, now that WebClient includes OAuth support Seaside apps and Pharo >>>>>> in general could benefit by allowing connecting to Twitter and Facebook >>>>>> sites. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Andreas Raab's 'new' WebClient/WebServer seems quite nice, as he says himself: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As a result, we now have what I think is a pretty decent HTTP server and client implementation for Squeak 4.1 and hopefully we can nuke HTTPSocket sometime soon. WebClient is superior in every respect. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is this something that will / should fit seamlessly into Pharo ? Or even become preinstalled ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I didn't try his ConfigurationOfWebClient since the last version was unreadable and it seemed like an experiment, while his textual explanation was easy to follow. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To load it into and to make the unit tests run in Pharo 1.0 I had to make a couple of fixes (to WebCookie#printOn: and WebServer class#serverString). Who should I sent these changes to ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But even then 1 unit test failed (#testServerDestroy). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Furthermore, some the changes in his package WebClient-Pharo seem a bit dangerous, especially a modification to SocketStream#peek (and the failed test was doing a peek) and an override of String#, some others are unneccessary as far as I can see. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sven >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Sven Van Caekenberghe - mailto:sven@beta9.be >>>>>>>> Beta Nine - software engineering - http://www.beta9.be >>>>>>>> .Mac - svc(a)mac.com - http://homepage.mac.com/svc >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Miguel CobÃ¡ >>>>>> http://miguel.leugim.com.mx >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-users mailing list >>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

Aug. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] WebClient

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Well, I just ran the units tests in Pharo1.2a #12107 and with this version http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberg… ==================== Summary ==================== Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.64 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 23 August 2010, 5:02:04 pm UUID: 2cb4f11d-870a-45f0-bcde-e61351e7edf2 Ancestors: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.63 replaced SmalltalkImage current platformName with OSPlatform current platformFamily We go from all red to 33 passed out of 39, 6 errors. If we could solve his usage of #pathForFile I think we can make some more tests succeed. I'll see if I can fix some more low hanging bugs. Sven On 23 Aug 2010, at 16:56, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > excellent! excellent! > Let me know. I'm working on papers but I want to integrate such packages so that > brave souls can start removing some of the ugly part of Network :) > > Stef > > On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > >> The last version that I patched for Pharo is: >> >> http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberg… >> >> ==================== Summary ==================== >> >> Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.63 >> Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe >> Time: 12 August 2010, 10:46:11 am >> UUID: 149d44b2-138b-4d63-a158-f587b2bd391d >> Ancestors: WebClient-Core-ar.62 >> >> added some more #asString's where needed to deal with the different semantics of #, in Squeak vs Pharo; removed usage of #and:and:and:and: with a composition of #and: in WebClient>>connect >> >> Andreas did not respond to my email... >> The Tests corresponding to WebClient-Core-ar.62 (the ancestor) are WebClient-Tests-ar.25. >> I am right now having a quick look at the unit tests in PharoCore 1.2. >> >> Sven >> >> On 23 Aug 2010, at 15:50, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> Sven >>> >>> I want now to integrate webClient in 1.2 do you have a suggestion where and which packages I should take? >>> Some in a Day at a beach ? >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:12 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>> >>>> Well, I did some effort before and got Andreas to include a number of patches so that his WebClient-Core loaded into Pharo without a need for a compatibility layer. The lastest version does no longer have this property ;-) >>>> >>>> I again submitted some patches to Andreas ( http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Core-port-to-Pharo-1-1-final-td2322411.html… ) but he hasn't responded yet. Futhermore, I did not yet fix everything, but the code works for my purposes. >>>> >>>> As I discussed with StÃ©phane, it is not clear for me how this must go further, since we keep on running 'behind'. So it is good to discuss this here. >>>> >>>> Sven >>>> >>>> On 13 Aug 2010, at 17:24, Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ MartÃnez wrote: >>>> >>>>> El vie, 13-08-2010 a las 12:11 +0200, StÃ©phane Ducasse escribiÃ³: >>>>>> Since we agree that we want to use WebClient in pharo by default, it would be nice to start >>>>>> pushing it into 1.2. I was waiting a bit to get some more feedback. What we could do >>>>>> is >>>>>> - load it in 1.2 >>>>>> - update it when andreas publish new versions >>>>>> - start forwarding to webClient >>>>>> - remove the other code slowly >>>>>> >>>>>> What do you think? >>>>>> Stef >>>>> >>>>> +1, I think GermÃ¡n Arduino began the work to include WebClient in Pharo. >>>>> He could give an update. >>>>> Also, now that WebClient includes OAuth support Seaside apps and Pharo >>>>> in general could benefit by allowing connecting to Twitter and Facebook >>>>> sites. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Andreas Raab's 'new' WebClient/WebServer seems quite nice, as he says himself: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As a result, we now have what I think is a pretty decent HTTP server and client implementation for Squeak 4.1 and hopefully we can nuke HTTPSocket sometime soon. WebClient is superior in every respect. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is this something that will / should fit seamlessly into Pharo ? Or even become preinstalled ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I didn't try his ConfigurationOfWebClient since the last version was unreadable and it seemed like an experiment, while his textual explanation was easy to follow. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To load it into and to make the unit tests run in Pharo 1.0 I had to make a couple of fixes (to WebCookie#printOn: and WebServer class#serverString). Who should I sent these changes to ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But even then 1 unit test failed (#testServerDestroy). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Furthermore, some the changes in his package WebClient-Pharo seem a bit dangerous, especially a modification to SocketStream#peek (and the failed test was doing a peek) and an override of String#, some others are unneccessary as far as I can see. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sven >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Sven Van Caekenberghe - mailto:sven@beta9.be >>>>>>> Beta Nine - software engineering - http://www.beta9.be >>>>>>> .Mac - svc(a)mac.com - http://homepage.mac.com/svc >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Miguel CobÃ¡ >>>>> http://miguel.leugim.com.mx >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-users mailing list >>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

Aug. 23, 2010