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Re: [Pharo-users] 3600 seconds seconds = 0 ???

by Mariano Martinez Peck

are you sure you wanted pharo-users or pharo-dev? On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 6:04 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > 3600 seconds seconds = 0 > which means that this is a number of seconds in the hour:min:seconds > decomposition > > Now it looks to me that the method comment is wrong > > seconds > "Answer the number of seconds the receiver represents." > > ^ (seconds rem: SecondsInMinute) > > > 3600 seconds asSeconds = 3600 is what is working > > may be (Duration seconds: 3600) would be better > > To me there is something conceptually bogus with such definition of minutes > and seconds. > (Duration seconds: 3600) minutes = 0 > (Duration seconds: 3600) seconds = 0 > > > > Stef > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

Aug. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Invoking external processes/IPC

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Marcin Tustin <mm3(a)zepler.net> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm an occasional squeak/pharo dabbler, and I'm wondering what the > recommended way of interacting with external processes is these days? > > Should I go through the process of getting all the VMMaker and OSProcess > stuff, and build the OSProcess plugin, or is there some other way in Pharo > to interact with the OS environment? > > Hi. Which OS are you? because I think OSProcess is not working on Windows. And I also think there are binaries for it, so you don't need to generate .c from VMMaker neither compile c code to binary. But I may be wrong. CommandShell ? Maybe using normal FFI or AlienFFI? They will let you invoke shared libraries of the OS from Pharo. > Alternatively, are people doing something (easy) with IPC mechanisms like > named sockets or TCP streams? > > The "project" I'm working on is putting figlet on a website, just for fun. > > Marcin > > -- > Marcin Tustin > Mobile: 07773787105 > Office: 020 3400 3259 > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > >

Aug. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Freetype package breaks preferences browser?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Marcin Tustin <mm3(a)zepler.net> wrote: > Further to the below, I tried just fixing all the instances of _, and > resulted in #messagenotunderstood 'or' exceptions being generated every > second or so, until the VM locked up. > > You can send these changes to David. He may want to integrate it. That would ease the load in Pharo and won't break Squeak. You can also attach the PharoDebug.log that is in the same directory where your image is. Cheers Mariano > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Marcin Tustin <mm3(a)zepler.net> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Further to my previous email, I decided to install OSProcess/VMMaker. >> VMMaker installs a version of the freetype package, or rather fails to do >> so. This appears to be because it use _ for assignment, rather :=. >> Unfortunately, incompletely installing the package appears to have broken >> the preferences browser (attempting to launch it from the main menu results >> in an exception). >> >> Is there a way to undo the changes from the various packages loaded, and >> thus return my image to a sane state, or an alternative way to enable _, so >> that loading can continue? >> >> Marcin >> >> -- >> Marcin Tustin >> Mobile: 07773787105 >> Office: 020 3400 3259 >> > > > > -- > Marcin Tustin > Mobile: 07773787105 > Office: 020 3400 3259 > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > >

Aug. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Freetype package breaks preferences browser?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Marcin Tustin <mm3(a)zepler.net> wrote: > Hi all, > > Further to my previous email, I decided to install OSProcess/VMMaker. > VMMaker installs a version of the freetype package, or rather fails to do > so. This appears to be because it use _ for assignment, rather :=. > Unfortunately, incompletely installing the package appears to have broken > the preferences browser (attempting to launch it from the main menu results > in an exception). > > First, why are you loading VMMaker? I guess you don't need this package if you won't compile the plugin by yourself. Second, Pharo 1.0 or Pharo 1.1 ? I guess Pharo 1.1. Can you try evaluating: Scanner allowUnderscoreAsAssignment: true. > Is there a way to undo the changes from the various packages loaded, and > thus return my image to a sane state, or an alternative way to enable _, so > that loading can continue? > > There is in Tools -> "Recent submissions" that may help you. In addition, you can take a text editor and open the .changes file and recover your lost code. > > Marcin > > -- > Marcin Tustin > Mobile: 07773787105 > Office: 020 3400 3259 > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > >

Aug. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Freetype package breaks preferences browser?

by Marcin Tustin

Further to the below, I tried just fixing all the instances of _, and resulted in #messagenotunderstood 'or' exceptions being generated every second or so, until the VM locked up. On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Marcin Tustin <mm3(a)zepler.net> wrote: > Hi all, > > Further to my previous email, I decided to install OSProcess/VMMaker. > VMMaker installs a version of the freetype package, or rather fails to do > so. This appears to be because it use _ for assignment, rather :=. > Unfortunately, incompletely installing the package appears to have broken > the preferences browser (attempting to launch it from the main menu results > in an exception). > > Is there a way to undo the changes from the various packages loaded, and > thus return my image to a sane state, or an alternative way to enable _, so > that loading can continue? > > Marcin > > -- > Marcin Tustin > Mobile: 07773787105 > Office: 020 3400 3259 > -- Marcin Tustin Mobile: 07773787105 Office: 020 3400 3259

Aug. 23, 2010

[update 1.2] #12108

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

12108 ----- - Issue 2653: Editor cursor fix. Thanks Fernando Olivero and Chris Muller. - Issue 1400: Make Question Dialog more usable. Thanks Gary Chambers - Issue 2849: Improve About Dialog (and possibly provide new AlphaImageMorph defaultImage). Thanks Torsten Bergman. Thanks guys! It looks like this is an obvious statement but this is not :) Stef

Aug. 23, 2010

Freetype package breaks preferences browser?

by Marcin Tustin

Hi all, Further to my previous email, I decided to install OSProcess/VMMaker. VMMaker installs a version of the freetype package, or rather fails to do so. This appears to be because it use _ for assignment, rather :=. Unfortunately, incompletely installing the package appears to have broken the preferences browser (attempting to launch it from the main menu results in an exception). Is there a way to undo the changes from the various packages loaded, and thus return my image to a sane state, or an alternative way to enable _, so that loading can continue? Marcin -- Marcin Tustin Mobile: 07773787105 Office: 020 3400 3259

Aug. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] WebClient

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 23 Aug 2010, at 17:56, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Sven > andreas fixed a some behavior in socket and socketStream so may be we should use a more recent version of WebClient-Core > than of of 10 of august. > What do you think? > > Stef OK, I can do that, but WebClient does not contain any magic socket or socketstream stuff, it just uses them. I quickly browsed the diffs between my version, WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.64 (baed off WebClient-Core-ar.62) and WebClient-Core-ar.67 and it seems manageable (there is mostly just added functionality). I will try to do this tomorrow. Still, I don't like running behind someone who makes little or no effort to support us (not that I don't understand his point of view). Sven

Aug. 23, 2010

Invoking external processes/IPC

by Marcin Tustin

Hi all, I'm an occasional squeak/pharo dabbler, and I'm wondering what the recommended way of interacting with external processes is these days? Should I go through the process of getting all the VMMaker and OSProcess stuff, and build the OSProcess plugin, or is there some other way in Pharo to interact with the OS environment? Alternatively, are people doing something (easy) with IPC mechanisms like named sockets or TCP streams? The "project" I'm working on is putting figlet on a website, just for fun. Marcin -- Marcin Tustin Mobile: 07773787105 Office: 020 3400 3259

Aug. 23, 2010

3600 seconds seconds = 0 ???

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

3600 seconds seconds = 0 which means that this is a number of seconds in the hour:min:seconds decomposition Now it looks to me that the method comment is wrong seconds "Answer the number of seconds the receiver represents." ^ (seconds rem: SecondsInMinute) 3600 seconds asSeconds = 3600 is what is working may be (Duration seconds: 3600) would be better To me there is something conceptually bogus with such definition of minutes and seconds. (Duration seconds: 3600) minutes = 0 (Duration seconds: 3600) seconds = 0 Stef

Aug. 23, 2010