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Re: [Pharo-users] Community in the IDE

by NicolÃ¡s Paez

Sound great! I would like to collaborate with it. Saludos! Nico. blog: nicopaez.wordpress.com On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:30 AM, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com > wrote: > Hi, > > an idea I haven't found the courage to implement but may not be hard and > can have an impact (at least fun to code). > > - Write / put a chat server on seasidehosting|INRIA|whatever > - Pharo image includes a chat client per default > - uses Author as nickname > > So as soon as we open an image we are connected to other users. Can be > interesting in courses as students are directly connected to *real* > developpers while learning (and students love to chat :). > > So we can exchange snippets instantly, ask questions, ... > > Someone ? > > Cheers, > > Laurent Laffont > > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ > http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > >

Sept. 17, 2010

Community in the IDE

by laurent laffont

Hi, an idea I haven't found the courage to implement but may not be hard and can have an impact (at least fun to code). - Write / put a chat server on seasidehosting|INRIA|whatever - Pharo image includes a chat client per default - uses Author as nickname So as soon as we open an image we are connected to other users. Can be interesting in courses as students are directly connected to *real* developpers while learning (and students love to chat :). So we can exchange snippets instantly, ask questions, ... Someone ? Cheers, Laurent Laffont http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ http://magaloma.blogspot.com/

Sept. 17, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Hello and Mac OS X question

by Marc Hanisch

Hello Stanislav, hello StÃ©phane, thank you very much! I didn't realized that I can install the VM seperately :-) I really like the way of programming with Smalltalk/Pharo and I like the intelligent IDE (although I'm a die-hard vim-user ;-))... Best regards! Marc 2010/9/16 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > > On Sep 16, 2010, at 3:16 PM, Stanislav Paskalev wrote: > >> Hi Marc, >> I'm basically in the same situation like you, I'm a B2B Java developer >> by the day and I'm using Pharo for personal projects at night. :) > > I hope that one day you will be able to do the inverse :) > >> I believe it's best to install the virtual machine separately and just >> associate the .image files with it. (I've done this under Windows, >> under Linux I have squeak-vm installed from my distro and I just run >> squeak my-pharo.image.) Therefore whenever you open an image (with the >> coresponding .changes file available as well as .sources) - the vm >> will launch with it. > > Yes > One click are just bundle to let people work with the system in two minutes. > >> Stanislav Paskalev >> >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Marc Hanisch >> <marc.hanisch(a)googlemail.com> wrote: >>> Hello List, >>> >>> my name is Marc, I'm a programmer from Germany developing B2B PHP-Web >>> applications as my profession. >>> In my spare time I try to discover Smalltalk and I'm very impressed >>> and somewhat overstrained about the big range of different Smalltalk >>> distributions, tools and possibilities. >>> >>> So I decided to look at Pharo by reading Pharo By Example. I'm using >>> Pharo on my Ubuntu-Box and on my MacBook, too. Now I'm wondering, how >>> to load an previously saved image on Mac OS X? On Linux I copy & >>> change the ./pharo.sh file. Is there any best practice to open such an >>> image? There is no facility to open an image from within the >>> Pharo-IDE. >>> >>> Sorry for that newbee question, I'm somewhat confused ;-) >>> >>> Thank you very much and best regards, >>> Marc >>> >>> -- >>> http://twitter.com/dubst3pp4 >>> http://dubst3pp4.wordpress.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-users mailing list >>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

Sept. 17, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Hello and Mac OS X question

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Sep 16, 2010, at 3:16 PM, Stanislav Paskalev wrote: > Hi Marc, > I'm basically in the same situation like you, I'm a B2B Java developer > by the day and I'm using Pharo for personal projects at night. :) I hope that one day you will be able to do the inverse :) > I believe it's best to install the virtual machine separately and just > associate the .image files with it. (I've done this under Windows, > under Linux I have squeak-vm installed from my distro and I just run > squeak my-pharo.image.) Therefore whenever you open an image (with the > coresponding .changes file available as well as .sources) - the vm > will launch with it. Yes One click are just bundle to let people work with the system in two minutes. > Stanislav Paskalev > > > > On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Marc Hanisch > <marc.hanisch(a)googlemail.com> wrote: >> Hello List, >> >> my name is Marc, I'm a programmer from Germany developing B2B PHP-Web >> applications as my profession. >> In my spare time I try to discover Smalltalk and I'm very impressed >> and somewhat overstrained about the big range of different Smalltalk >> distributions, tools and possibilities. >> >> So I decided to look at Pharo by reading Pharo By Example. I'm using >> Pharo on my Ubuntu-Box and on my MacBook, too. Now I'm wondering, how >> to load an previously saved image on Mac OS X? On Linux I copy & >> change the ./pharo.sh file. Is there any best practice to open such an >> image? There is no facility to open an image from within the >> Pharo-IDE. >> >> Sorry for that newbee question, I'm somewhat confused ;-) >> >> Thank you very much and best regards, >> Marc >> >> -- >> http://twitter.com/dubst3pp4 >> http://dubst3pp4.wordpress.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

Sept. 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Hello and Mac OS X question

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

welcome marc > my name is Marc, I'm a programmer from Germany developing B2B PHP-Web > applications as my profession. > In my spare time I try to discover Smalltalk and I'm very impressed I hope that you will be able to develop great seaside applications like the one shown by johan brichau at ESUG this year. NextPlan is gorgeous. > and somewhat overstrained about the big range of different Smalltalk > distributions, tools and possibilities. :) > > So I decided to look at Pharo by reading Pharo By Example. I'm using > Pharo on my Ubuntu-Box and on my MacBook, too. Now I'm wondering, how > to load an previously saved image on Mac OS X? On Linux I copy & > change the ./pharo.sh file. Is there any best practice to open such an > image? There is no facility to open an image from within the > Pharo-IDE. on mac just drop the image file on the virtual machine. If you are using a one click image, you can access the virtual machine by opening (show package contents) one click and you can access to the vm. One click are just to help people getting started. Let me know if this is working and if this solving your problem. Now I really suggest you to reload your code in the other image. LIke that you have a reproducible way to always get your application > Sorry for that newbee question, I'm somewhat confused ;-) there is no problem. > > Thank you very much and best regards, > Marc > > -- > http://twitter.com/dubst3pp4 > http://dubst3pp4.wordpress.com > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

Sept. 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Hello and Mac OS X question

by Stanislav Paskalev

Hi Marc, I'm basically in the same situation like you, I'm a B2B Java developer by the day and I'm using Pharo for personal projects at night. :) I believe it's best to install the virtual machine separately and just associate the .image files with it. (I've done this under Windows, under Linux I have squeak-vm installed from my distro and I just run squeak my-pharo.image.) Therefore whenever you open an image (with the coresponding .changes file available as well as .sources) - the vm will launch with it. Stanislav Paskalev On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Marc Hanisch <marc.hanisch(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > Hello List, > > my name is Marc, I'm a programmer from Germany developing B2B PHP-Web > applications as my profession. > In my spare time I try to discover Smalltalk and I'm very impressed > and somewhat overstrained about the big range of different Smalltalk > distributions, tools and possibilities. > > So I decided to look at Pharo by reading Pharo By Example. I'm using > Pharo on my Ubuntu-Box and on my MacBook, too. Now I'm wondering, how > to load an previously saved image on Mac OS X? On Linux I copy & > change the ./pharo.sh file. Is there any best practice to open such an > image? There is no facility to open an image from within the > Pharo-IDE. > > Sorry for that newbee question, I'm somewhat confused ;-) > > Thank you very much and best regards, > Marc > > -- > http://twitter.com/dubst3pp4 > http://dubst3pp4.wordpress.com > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

Sept. 16, 2010

Hello and Mac OS X question

by Marc Hanisch

Hello List, my name is Marc, I'm a programmer from Germany developing B2B PHP-Web applications as my profession. In my spare time I try to discover Smalltalk and I'm very impressed and somewhat overstrained about the big range of different Smalltalk distributions, tools and possibilities. So I decided to look at Pharo by reading Pharo By Example. I'm using Pharo on my Ubuntu-Box and on my MacBook, too. Now I'm wondering, how to load an previously saved image on Mac OS X? On Linux I copy & change the ./pharo.sh file. Is there any best practice to open such an image? There is no facility to open an image from within the Pharo-IDE. Sorry for that newbee question, I'm somewhat confused ;-) Thank you very much and best regards, Marc -- http://twitter.com/dubst3pp4 http://dubst3pp4.wordpress.com

Sept. 16, 2010

About pharo book localisation chapter.

by Panu Suominen

In localisation chapter people are asked to reload their image to enable translations. I think that NaturalLanguageTranslator privateStartUp is enough. It might be worth to mention because it speeds up testing. -- Panu

Sept. 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] i18n tools

by Panu Suominen

2010/9/10 Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com>: > Check with Philip Marchall, he did modification to use gettext code with > Seaside. Ok. Thanks to all for the help. Seaside and gettext are apparently the magic words that solves this problem. :) http://forum.world.st/Seaside-Gettext-sneak-peak-td2164600.html -- Panu

Sept. 10, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] i18n tools

by Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ MartÃnez

El jue, 09-09-2010 a las 22:12 +0300, Panu Suominen escribiÃ³: > I am researching wether out team could start using Pharo. I have tried to locate > some tools to do user interface translations but I did not find > anything in time so I had > to develop some rudimentary key-based translation tools my self. I would like > to know is this lack of translation tools reality and if others are having same > kind of problems? > There are effort to bring gettext infrastructure to Pharo and seaside. Search the archives for details. What I do in Seaside is to store create a base class for the default languan, lets say, english: MyLanguage with class methods for each string that I want localized, f.e. MyLanguage class>>greet ^ 'Hello User' MyLanguage class>>numItems: num ^ '{1} items' format: {num} This allows me to have parametrized messages. Now for each language you want to support you create a subclass: MyLanguage subclass: #MyLanguageESMX and override each method you want to translate: MyLanguageESMX class>>greet ^ 'Hola usuario' MyLanguageESMX class>>numItems: num ^ '{1} elementos' format: {num} If some method is missing in the subclass, it will take the value of the parent class. Now, to use it, store in each user session a inst var holding the prefered _class_ for the language the user wants. And create an accessor for this inst var: WASession subclass: #MySession instanceVariableNames: 'user announcer language' classVariableNames: '' poolDictionaries: '' category: 'MyPackage' MySession>>lang ^ self user preferences language Now when you want to emit a string do: MyLogin>>renderContentOn: html html div id: 'login'; with: [ self session lang greet; self renderLoginOn: html ] As the lang accessor returns the preferred lang class for the user, the message greet is understood (they are class methods) and returns the correct translated string for the given user. To create a new translation, you copy a existent subclass of MyLanguage and rewrite the strings for the new language. Of course this only takes care of the string translation, and does nothing about currency and left-to-right issues in distinct languages. For the currency issue you can add a format message that emits the correct representation of a number in the current locale but for the direction of text, you'll need to look for other options, like the gettext code I mentioned before. Hope this helps. Cheers -- Miguel CobÃ¡ http://miguel.leugim.com.mx

Sept. 10, 2010