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Re: [Pharo-users] Distributing 'minimal' image

by Johan Fabry

On 01 Oct 2010, at 15:34, Daniel Galdames wrote: > > Is there a way for this popup to be inhibited? Or can I just make a zero-line changes file and distribute that? I am assuming the users will not use a browser, and if they do get to that point they are experts and fully responsible for shooting themselves in the foot :-) > > > On Settings Browser, under System, you can uncheck "Check changes file availability", to inhibit the warning. Cool, thanks Daniel! -- Johan Fabry jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Oct. 1, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Distributing 'minimal' image

by Daniel Galdames

> > Is there a way for this popup to be inhibited? Or can I just make a > zero-line changes file and distribute that? I am assuming the users will not > use a browser, and if they do get to that point they are experts and fully > responsible for shooting themselves in the foot :-) > > On Settings Browser, under System, you can uncheck "Check changes file availability", to inhibit the warning. Saludos, Daniel Galdames G.

Oct. 1, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo-1.1.1-dev10.09.1

by Tudor Girba

Great! Doru On 1 Oct 2010, at 09:55, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Hi folks. We are releasing Pharo 1.1.1. This image is exactly same as Pharo 1.1 but based on PharoCore 1.1.1. The versions of the external packages is the same as in Pharo 1.1. The difference is that PharoCore1.1.1 has integrated some fixes and the support for CogVM. This means that Pharo-1.1.1-dev10.09.1 can be run with both, normal PharoVM and CogVM. For CogVM we recommend to use the last binaries that can be found in http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/. Right now the last one is http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2313/ > > This CogVM version fixes the problem with "Objects as methods", and thus, all the #run:with:with are working. This means that tools like TestCoverage and AutoTest are working correctly with CogVM. > > The link to the image is: https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27543/Pharo-1.1.1-dev10.09.1.zip > > Cheers > > Mariano > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users -- www.tudorgirba.com "Being happy is a matter of choice."

Oct. 1, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Distributing 'minimal' image

by Johan Fabry

On 01 Oct 2010, at 01:48, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > - Is there an easy way to strip this image of dev tools et cetera? > > Not really. The easiest way is to have a Configuration of Metacello that takes care of loading all your code with all your dependencies. Then, take a PharoCore and load your code there. Pity, that. It would be a nice addition to Pharo I think... > In addition, you may want to evaluate "ScriptLoader cleanUpForProduction" at the end. Check the method to see what it does. Thanks, I'll look at that. > > - How can I make it so that I can distribute it without the changes file? (Right now the image complains of a missing changes file if it is not there ...) > > > I am aware of "Smalltalk abandonSources" to avoid using .sources. You won't see things like the temp names, and stuff will be decompiled instead. OK I'll try that. > For the .changes you can start the image without them, there will raise a popup at the beginning. The problem is if you then do sometthing that should be written there. Not sure here... Is there a way for this popup to be inhibited? Or can I just make a zero-line changes file and distribute that? I am assuming the users will not use a browser, and if they do get to that point they are experts and fully responsible for shooting themselves in the foot :-) -- Johan Fabry jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Oct. 1, 2010

[ANN] Pharo-1.1.1-dev10.09.1

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi folks. We are releasing Pharo 1.1.1. This image is exactly same as Pharo 1.1 but based on PharoCore 1.1.1. The versions of the external packages is the same as in Pharo 1.1. The difference is that PharoCore1.1.1 has integrated some fixes and the support for CogVM. This means that Pharo-1.1.1-dev10.09.1 can be run with both, normal PharoVM and CogVM. For CogVM we recommend to use the last binaries that can be found in http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/. Right now the last one is http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2313/ This CogVM version fixes the problem with "Objects as methods", and thus, all the #run:with:with are working. This means that tools like TestCoverage and AutoTest are working correctly with CogVM. The link to the image is: https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27543/Pharo-1.1.1-dev10.09.1.zip Cheers Mariano

Oct. 1, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Distributing 'minimal' image

by Igor Stasenko

On 1 October 2010 08:48, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I am planning to put online a minimal image that contains AspectMaps, with >> some models pre-loaded. Two questions: >> - Is there an easy way to strip this image of dev tools et cetera? > > Not really. The easiest way is to have a Configuration of Metacello that > takes care of loading all your code with all your dependencies. Then, take a > PharoCore and load your code there. > In addition, you may want to evaluate "ScriptLoader cleanUpForProduction" at > the end. Check the method to see what it does. > >> >> - How can I make it so that I can distribute it without the changes file? >> (Right now the image complains of a missing changes file if it is not there >> ...) >> > > I am aware of "Smalltalk abandonSources"Â to avoid using .sources. You won't > see things like the temp names, and stuff will be decompiled instead. With a little effort, you can embed source code into method trailers. Then you won't need .sources nor .chanes to see the real source instead of decompiling it. But you will loose method stamps. > For the .changes you can start the image without them, there will raise a > popup at the beginning. The problem is if you then do sometthing that should > be written there. Not sure here... > yeah. > cheers > > Mariano > > > >> >> Thanks in advance! >> -- >> Johan Fabry >> jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry >> PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Oct. 1, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Distributing 'minimal' image

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > Hi all, > > I am planning to put online a minimal image that contains AspectMaps, with > some models pre-loaded. Two questions: > - Is there an easy way to strip this image of dev tools et cetera? > Not really. The easiest way is to have a Configuration of Metacello that takes care of loading all your code with all your dependencies. Then, take a PharoCore and load your code there. In addition, you may want to evaluate "ScriptLoader cleanUpForProduction" at the end. Check the method to see what it does. > - How can I make it so that I can distribute it without the changes file? > (Right now the image complains of a missing changes file if it is not there > ...) > > I am aware of "Smalltalk abandonSources" to avoid using .sources. You won't see things like the temp names, and stuff will be decompiled instead. For the .changes you can start the image without them, there will raise a popup at the beginning. The problem is if you then do sometthing that should be written there. Not sure here... cheers Mariano > Thanks in advance! > -- > Johan Fabry > jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry<http://dcc.uchile.cl/%7Ejfabry> > PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

Oct. 1, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-users Digest, Vol 9, Issue 32

by -Martin Ramos

hi guillermo, i Â´m from Quilmes, Argentina, im study in the UNQ university, iÂ´m very happy to share experiences with you. 2010/9/30 <pharo-users-request(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > Send Pharo-users mailing list submissions to > pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pharo-users-request(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pharo-users-owner(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Pharo-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Pharo 1.1.1 OneClickCogVm > (Mariano Martinez Peck) > 2. Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Pharo 1.1.1 OneClickCogVm > (Igor Stasenko) > 3. Hello (-Martin Ramos) > 4. Re: Hello (St?phane Ducasse) > 5. Re: Hello (Guillermo Polito) > 6. Distributing 'minimal' image (Johan Fabry) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:16:32 +0200 > From: Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] [ANN] Pharo 1.1.1 > OneClickCogVm > To: A friendly place where any question about pharo is welcome > <pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > Message-ID: > <AANLkTikyc=kbqo+tWoCP_-MNsUnSwJgAJivkNkXVg+im(a)mail.gmail.com<kbqo%2BtWoCP_-MNsUnSwJgAJivkNkXVg%2Bim(a)mail.gmail.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hi Mariano, > > > > Is the 1.1.1 dev image available for the old VM? > > > > No, but you can do it by yourself. Just take the PharoCore 1.1.1 ( > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27526/PharoCore-1.1.1.zip) > And evaluate: > > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfPharo'; > load. > > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPharo) project version: '1.1') perform: > #silently: with: true; perform: #load. > > > > > > > I was a bit away, and I am not sure of the status. If there is something > I > > can do, please let me know. > > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > > > On 25 Sep 2010, at 19:49, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > Hi Mariano, > > > > > > This is a good and needed step. > > > > > > Now, just a problem: 1.1.1dev image does not work with the regular VM. > > This is probably because you saved it again after you opened it with the > Cog > > VM. It would be great if the released dev image would work with both. > > > > > > Excellent suggestion :) > > > Thanks doru. > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Doru > > > > > > > > > > > > On 25 Sep 2010, at 17:56, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > > > Hi. This is not an official release. I didn't do all the formal > > procedure for releasing a Pharo image. My idea is try to push CogVM and > try > > to get as much as testers as possible. Try to report issues and help > Eliot. > > For that purpose, I think having a one click image is worth it. > > > > > > > > So.....I build a Pharo dev on top of the PharoCore 1.1.1 (which has > > some fixes over 1.1 and the CogVM necessary changes). I build the image > with > > exactly the same versions of the external packages than Pharo 1.1. > > > > > > > > If you want to download that this Pharo1.1.1 dev image that works > with > > Cog here is the link: > > > > > > > > > > > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27516/Pharo-1.1.1-dev10.09.1.zip > > > > > > > > In addition, and thanks to Lukas, we could generate OneClicks with > > CogVM. Here you can have a OneClick using the above image: > > > > > > > > > > > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27524/Pharo-1.1.1-OneClickCogVM.zip > > > > > > > > Notice that this is not an official release and that there are > > failing/errors tests. I've already sent emails for them and hopefully > > someone may fix them. The only thing is not supported is the TestCoverage > > (since it uses objects as methods, with is not yet supported in CogVM). > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > Mariano > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Pharo-users mailing list > > > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > > > -- > > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > > > "The coherence of a trip is given by the clearness of the goal." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-project mailing list > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-project mailing list > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "In a world where everything is moving ever faster, > > one might have better chances to win by moving slower." > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-users mailing list > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > >

Oct. 1, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] A little newbie question

by Alan Rodas

You just can't play sound from Pharo or no sound in Ubuntu? I didn't try that example but I had some problems with things using ALSA to play sounds wich crashed completely the sound in the system. Maybe you can solve it by restarting ALSA. -- Alan Rodas Bonjour

Sept. 30, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Hello

by Alan Rodas

Hey Martin!!! Finally I took you to switch to Pharo, hehe. Nice to see you here. -- Alan Rodas Bonjour

Sept. 30, 2010