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Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo and network

by Michael Roberts

yes... depending on your OS and version of Pharo, 127.0.0.1 does not always work as the destination from your client to your server socket. Did Olivier's code snippet work? try using netcat or lsof (unix) to see and interact with the state of your sockets. There is also a SocketStream implementation (somewhere) that hides a lot of this. cheers, Mike On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Olivier Auverlot <olivier.auverlot(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Adrien, > > Could you try : > > | s | > s := Socket new. > s connectTo: (NetNameResolver addressForName: 'localhost') port: 12345. > > Best regards > Olivier ;-) > www.auverlot.fr > > Hello, > > I read these documents: > http://book.pharo-project.org/book/networking/Socket > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/325 > > but I still don't get what I want with pharo. > > Here is the idea: I want a socket to listen a port while pharo is launched > as a deamon. > > I tried to test the sockets with this idea: > - creation of two sockets in two workspaces > - server: > > | server st | > st := String new. > server := Socket newTCP. > server listenOn: 12345 backlogSize: 4. > server receiveDataInto: st > > - client: > > | s | > s connectTo: ('127.0.0.1' asByteArray asSocketAddress) port: 12345. > s sendData: 'Hello' > > - the connectTo:port: fails, and I don't understand why > > So I have no idea ... > > Adrien. > >

Jan. 17, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] Where do I find KeyedSet?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jan 15, 2011, at 9:52 AM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: > Hi Stef > > 2011/1/15 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >> >> On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:24 PM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: >> >>> Try PluggableSet >>> >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr/msg22890.ht… >>> >>> Is there a way for you guys to deprecate deleted classes or mantain a >>> record of deleted behaviors? (IIRC VW did this from 2.x versions) >> >> We try but we do not have the engineers of VW. >> Now find somebody that pay us just 3 engineers full time for two years and you will not >> recognized pharo and its process. > > I know we are very few, but what about this idea, instead of just > deleting a class we may adopt these simple rules: > > 1 - If deleting a class add the deleted class name somewhere (in a method?) > 2 - If renaming a class, make the class to know its previous names > like #previousNames > (Norberto Manzanos implemented this for his own package management and > I think is a great idea) > > doesn't require tools, just some consensus and maybe a modified > #deleteClass to enforce this "policy" yes this would be nice to have tool doing it for us. > > it sounds feasible for you? what do you think? > > HernÃ¡n >

Jan. 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] Where do I find KeyedSet?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Previous names is a good idea We should adopt it! Stef On Jan 15, 2011, at 9:52 AM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: > Hi Stef > > 2011/1/15 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >> >> On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:24 PM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: >> >>> Try PluggableSet >>> >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr/msg22890.ht… >>> >>> Is there a way for you guys to deprecate deleted classes or mantain a >>> record of deleted behaviors? (IIRC VW did this from 2.x versions) >> >> We try but we do not have the engineers of VW. >> Now find somebody that pay us just 3 engineers full time for two years and you will not >> recognized pharo and its process. > > I know we are very few, but what about this idea, instead of just > deleting a class we may adopt these simple rules: > > 1 - If deleting a class add the deleted class name somewhere (in a method?) > 2 - If renaming a class, make the class to know its previous names > like #previousNames > (Norberto Manzanos implemented this for his own package management and > I think is a great idea) > > doesn't require tools, just some consensus and maybe a modified > #deleteClass to enforce this "policy" > > it sounds feasible for you? what do you think? > > HernÃ¡n >

Jan. 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Where do I find KeyedSet?

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Hi Stef 2011/1/15 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > > On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:24 PM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: > >> Try PluggableSet >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr/msg22890.ht… >> >> Is there a way for you guys to deprecate deleted classes or mantain a >> record of deleted behaviors? (IIRC VW did this from 2.x versions) > > We try but we do not have the engineers of VW. > Now find somebody that pay us just 3 engineers full time for two years and you will not > recognized pharo and its process. I know we are very few, but what about this idea, instead of just deleting a class we may adopt these simple rules: 1 - If deleting a class add the deleted class name somewhere (in a method?) 2 - If renaming a class, make the class to know its previous names like #previousNames (Norberto Manzanos implemented this for his own package management and I think is a great idea) doesn't require tools, just some consensus and maybe a modified #deleteClass to enforce this "policy" it sounds feasible for you? what do you think? HernÃ¡n

Jan. 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Where do I find KeyedSet?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:24 PM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: > Try PluggableSet > > http://www.mail-archive.com/pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr/msg22890.ht… > > Is there a way for you guys to deprecate deleted classes or mantain a > record of deleted behaviors? (IIRC VW did this from 2.x versions) We try but we do not have the engineers of VW. Now find somebody that pay us just 3 engineers full time for two years and you will not recognized pharo and its process. Stef > Cheers, > > HernÃ¡n > > 2011/1/14 Alex Schenkman <alex(a)schenkman.info>: >> Hi List, >> I'm trying to use the TestMock package in a Pharo-1.1.1-OneClick image, and >> it uses KeyedSet. >> Where can I find this class? >> Is there any tool to lookup which package in SqueakSource contains a >> specific class? >> Thanks in advance! >

Jan. 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo and network

by Olivier Auverlot

Hi Adrien, Could you try : | s | s := Socket new. s connectTo: (NetNameResolver addressForName: 'localhost') port: 12345. Best regards Olivier ;-) www.auverlot.fr > Hello, > > I read these documents: > http://book.pharo-project.org/book/networking/Socket > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/325 > > but I still don't get what I want with pharo. > > Here is the idea: I want a socket to listen a port while pharo is > launched as a deamon. > > I tried to test the sockets with this idea: > - creation of two sockets in two workspaces > - server: > > | server st | > st := String new. > server := Socket newTCP. > server listenOn: 12345 backlogSize: 4. > server receiveDataInto: st > > - client: > > | s | > s connectTo: ('127.0.0.1' asByteArray asSocketAddress) port: 12345. > s sendData: 'Hello' > > - the connectTo:port: fails, and I don't understand why > > So I have no idea ... > > Adrien.

Jan. 14, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo and network

by Adrien BARREAU

Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:13:14 -0300 From: guillermopolito(a)gmail.com To: pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo and network comments inline On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Adrien BARREAU <abarreau.dev(a)live.fr> wrote: Hello, I read these documents: http://book.pharo-project.org/book/networking/Socket http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/325 but I still don't get what I want with pharo. Here is the idea: I want a socket to listen a port while pharo is launched as a deamon. I tried to test the sockets with this idea: - creation of two sockets in two workspaces - server: | server st | st := String new. server := Socket newTCP. server listenOn: 12345 backlogSize: 4. server receiveDataInto: st - client: | s | s connectTo: ('127.0.0.1' asByteArray asSocketAddress) port: 12345. Shouldn't this lead to a MNU? I don't know how to initialize a socket, but maybe you forget to instantiate the socket, or you have to talk to the class. I forgot the instantiation when I copied for this mail, it is instantiate My server works if I connect with a telnet terminal s sendData: 'Hello' - the connectTo:port: fails, and I don't understand why So I have no idea ... Adrien. Cheers,

Jan. 14, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo and network

by Guillermo Polito

comments inline On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Adrien BARREAU <abarreau.dev(a)live.fr>wrote: > Hello, > > I read these documents: > http://book.pharo-project.org/book/networking/Socket > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/325 > > but I still don't get what I want with pharo. > > Here is the idea: I want a socket to listen a port while pharo is launched > as a deamon. > > I tried to test the sockets with this idea: > - creation of two sockets in two workspaces > - server: > > | server st | > st := String new. > server := Socket newTCP. > server listenOn: 12345 backlogSize: 4. > server receiveDataInto: st > > - client: > > | s | > s connectTo: ('127.0.0.1' asByteArray asSocketAddress) port: 12345. > Shouldn't this lead to a MNU? I don't know how to initialize a socket, but maybe you forget to instantiate the socket, or you have to talk to the class. > s sendData: 'Hello' > > - the connectTo:port: fails, and I don't understand why > > So I have no idea ... > > Adrien. > Cheers,

Jan. 14, 2011

Pharo and network

by Adrien BARREAU

Hello, I read these documents: http://book.pharo-project.org/book/networking/Socket http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/325 but I still don't get what I want with pharo. Here is the idea: I want a socket to listen a port while pharo is launched as a deamon. I tried to test the sockets with this idea: - creation of two sockets in two workspaces - server: | server st | st := String new. server := Socket newTCP. server listenOn: 12345 backlogSize: 4. server receiveDataInto: st - client: | s | s connectTo: ('127.0.0.1' asByteArray asSocketAddress) port: 12345. s sendData: 'Hello' - the connectTo:port: fails, and I don't understand why So I have no idea ... Adrien.

Jan. 14, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Where do I find KeyedSet?

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Try PluggableSet http://www.mail-archive.com/pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr/msg22890.ht… Is there a way for you guys to deprecate deleted classes or mantain a record of deleted behaviors? (IIRC VW did this from 2.x versions) Cheers, HernÃ¡n 2011/1/14 Alex Schenkman <alex(a)schenkman.info>: > Hi List, > I'm trying to use the TestMock package in a Pharo-1.1.1-OneClick image, and > it uses KeyedSet. > Where can I find this class? > Is there any tool to lookup which package in SqueakSource contains a > specific class? > Thanks in advance!

Jan. 14, 2011