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Fwd: Serial Port

by Luc Fabresse

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> Date: 2011/1/27 Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Serial Port To: Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> Cc: A friendly place where any question about pharo is welcome < pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr>, SÃ©verin Lemaignan < severin.lemaignan(a)laas.fr> On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > I did not remember well the discussions about serial ports. > But there are some infos there: > http://www.mail-archive.com/pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr/msg31411.ht… > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1057 > > Perhaps Serge knows more about it now? The code is actually mostly the work of SÃ©verin Lemaignan, so if we want to integrate his code in Pharo, we should ask him to sign the Pharo licence agreement: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ListOfOkCommitters This code is already included in the last version of Squeak. I dunno about the scratch version. This is different from the Squeak version ? Regards, -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

Jan. 27, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Serial Port

by Luc Fabresse

Hi all, I did not remember well the discussions about serial ports. But there are some infos there: http://www.mail-archive.com/pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr/msg31411.ht… http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1057 Perhaps Serge knows more about it now? #Luc 2011/1/26 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > Thanks david. > > We are picky and strict about license because we do not want to get burned > again with issues. > > Stef > > > There should be no license concern. The named serial support is provided > > in the SerialPlugin, and the update is of course MIT. > > > > Background is here: > > http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7266 > > > > I don't think that patches are included in the oscog branch yet (but I > > am not able to check right now, sorry). > > > > In any case, don't worry about the license. > > > > Dave > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 05:25:55PM +0100, St?phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Yes so I would ban the code and we will fix it ourselves. > >> We do not want to end in 30 different variant of the MIT license. > >> They should not have change the license like that.... > >> Error is repeating itself. > >> > >> Stef > >> > >> On Jan 26, 2011, at 4:42 PM, James Ashley wrote: > >> > >>> I haven't looked at the official license.txt, but the summary looks > >>> quite a bit different than what I (or the GNU foundation) consider > >>> "the" MIT license, at http://www.jclark.com/xml/copying.txt. > >>> > >>> Not that I'm a lawyer or my opinion means anything at all here. > >>> > >>> Respectfully, > >>> James > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Joan G?ell <jguell(a)e-citilab.eu> > wrote: > >>>> Hi Stef, > >>>> As you can see at http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Source_Code, the > Scratch > >>>> license seems to be MIT. Textually: > >>>> > >>>> "The Scratch source code license allows you to distribute derivative > works > >>>> based on the Scratch source code for non-commercial uses subject to > the > >>>> following restrictions: > >>>> > >>>> you cannot use the word "Scratch" to refer to derivative works > (except in > >>>> the phrase "Based on Scratch from the MIT Media Laboratory"), > >>>> you cannot use the Scratch logo or the official (copyrighted) Scratch > cat in > >>>> derivative works, > >>>> you cannot implement the ability to upload projects to any MIT Scratch > >>>> website (currently, http://scratch.mit.edu) > >>>> copies or derivative works must retain the Scratch copyright notice > and > >>>> license, and > >>>> you must make the source code for derivative works available. > >>>> > >>>> This is just a summary; the full license is in the file "license.txt" > >>>> included in the source code download package. > >>>> > >>>> The purpose of these restrictions is to avoid confusion in the Scratch > user > >>>> community between the official version of Scratch (supported by the > Lifelong > >>>> Kindergarten group) and experimental variations. We are happy the > share our > >>>> source code, but we want to protect the Scratch brand and our user > >>>> community." > >>>> > >>>> You can find the license.txt file attached. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> Joan. > >>>> El 26/01/2011, a las 16:07, St?phane Ducasse escribi?: > >>>> > >>>> Hello Joan > >>>> > >>>> Thanks. > >>>> Yes we should fix that. > >>>> What is the license of Scratch? > >>>> > >>>> Stef > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Jan 26, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Joan G?ell wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hello > >>>> > >>>> We are developing software to interact with small robots for > educational > >>>> purposes. To do this we need to use the serial port. SerialPort class > that > >>>> includes Pharo does not work on mac or linux, because it?s not able > to open > >>>> ports by name. > >>>> > >>>> It would be interesting that future versions include a SerialPort that > would > >>>> work in these circumstances. we are using since a time a?go the > plugin that > >>>> comes with Scratch, with this we just copy the plugins in the folder > of the > >>>> VM, the Plugin that comes with the VM Scrath, and add to the image of > the > >>>> image classes of Scratch , ScratchPlugin and SerialPort2.Up to date > this has > >>>> worked on all VM including the latest Cog. > >>>> > >>>> It works on Linux, Mac or Windows.We wory that future versions will > lose > >>>> support. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> The source code for the plugins can be found on: > >>>> > >>>> http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Source_Code > >>>> > >>>> ScratchPluginSrc1.4.zip > >>>> > >>>> Joan G?ell > >>>> > >>>> jguell(a)e-citilab.eu > >>>> > >>>> Joan G?ell > >>>> > >>>> jguell(a)e-citilab.eu > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Joan G?ell > >>>> jguell(a)e-citilab.eu > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > > > > >

Jan. 27, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Serial Port

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks david. We are picky and strict about license because we do not want to get burned again with issues. Stef > There should be no license concern. The named serial support is provided > in the SerialPlugin, and the update is of course MIT. > > Background is here: > http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7266 > > I don't think that patches are included in the oscog branch yet (but I > am not able to check right now, sorry). > > In any case, don't worry about the license. > > Dave > > > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 05:25:55PM +0100, St?phane Ducasse wrote: >> Yes so I would ban the code and we will fix it ourselves. >> We do not want to end in 30 different variant of the MIT license. >> They should not have change the license like that.... >> Error is repeating itself. >> >> Stef >> >> On Jan 26, 2011, at 4:42 PM, James Ashley wrote: >> >>> I haven't looked at the official license.txt, but the summary looks >>> quite a bit different than what I (or the GNU foundation) consider >>> "the" MIT license, at http://www.jclark.com/xml/copying.txt. >>> >>> Not that I'm a lawyer or my opinion means anything at all here. >>> >>> Respectfully, >>> James >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Joan G?ell <jguell(a)e-citilab.eu> wrote: >>>> Hi Stef, >>>> As you can see at http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Source_Code, the Scratch >>>> license seems to be MIT. Textually: >>>> >>>> "The Scratch source code license allows you to distribute derivative works >>>> based on the Scratch source code for non-commercial uses subject to the >>>> following restrictions: >>>> >>>> you cannot use the word "Scratch" to refer to derivative works (except in >>>> the phrase "Based on Scratch from the MIT Media Laboratory"), >>>> you cannot use the Scratch logo or the official (copyrighted) Scratch cat in >>>> derivative works, >>>> you cannot implement the ability to upload projects to any MIT Scratch >>>> website (currently, http://scratch.mit.edu) >>>> copies or derivative works must retain the Scratch copyright notice and >>>> license, and >>>> you must make the source code for derivative works available. >>>> >>>> This is just a summary; the full license is in the file "license.txt" >>>> included in the source code download package. >>>> >>>> The purpose of these restrictions is to avoid confusion in the Scratch user >>>> community between the official version of Scratch (supported by the Lifelong >>>> Kindergarten group) and experimental variations. We are happy the share our >>>> source code, but we want to protect the Scratch brand and our user >>>> community." >>>> >>>> You can find the license.txt file attached. >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Joan. >>>> El 26/01/2011, a las 16:07, St?phane Ducasse escribi?: >>>> >>>> Hello Joan >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> Yes we should fix that. >>>> What is the license of Scratch? >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 26, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Joan G?ell wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello >>>> >>>> We are developing software to interact with small robots for educational >>>> purposes. To do this we need to use the serial port. SerialPort class that >>>> includes Pharo does not work on mac or linux, because it?s not able to open >>>> ports by name. >>>> >>>> It would be interesting that future versions include a SerialPort that would >>>> work in these circumstances. we are using since a time a?go the plugin that >>>> comes with Scratch, with this we just copy the plugins in the folder of the >>>> VM, the Plugin that comes with the VM Scrath, and add to the image of the >>>> image classes of Scratch , ScratchPlugin and SerialPort2.Up to date this has >>>> worked on all VM including the latest Cog. >>>> >>>> It works on Linux, Mac or Windows.We wory that future versions will lose >>>> support. >>>> >>>> >>>> The source code for the plugins can be found on: >>>> >>>> http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Source_Code >>>> >>>> ScratchPluginSrc1.4.zip >>>> >>>> Joan G?ell >>>> >>>> jguell(a)e-citilab.eu >>>> >>>> Joan G?ell >>>> >>>> jguell(a)e-citilab.eu >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Joan G?ell >>>> jguell(a)e-citilab.eu >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >

Jan. 27, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Serial Port

by David T. Lewis

There should be no license concern. The named serial support is provided in the SerialPlugin, and the update is of course MIT. Background is here: http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7266 I don't think that patches are included in the oscog branch yet (but I am not able to check right now, sorry). In any case, don't worry about the license. Dave On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 05:25:55PM +0100, St?phane Ducasse wrote: > Yes so I would ban the code and we will fix it ourselves. > We do not want to end in 30 different variant of the MIT license. > They should not have change the license like that.... > Error is repeating itself. > > Stef > > On Jan 26, 2011, at 4:42 PM, James Ashley wrote: > > > I haven't looked at the official license.txt, but the summary looks > > quite a bit different than what I (or the GNU foundation) consider > > "the" MIT license, at http://www.jclark.com/xml/copying.txt. > > > > Not that I'm a lawyer or my opinion means anything at all here. > > > > Respectfully, > > James > > > > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Joan G?ell <jguell(a)e-citilab.eu> wrote: > >> Hi Stef, > >> As you can see at http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Source_Code, the Scratch > >> license seems to be MIT. Textually: > >> > >> "The Scratch source code license allows you to distribute derivative works > >> based on the Scratch source code for non-commercial uses subject to the > >> following restrictions: > >> > >> you cannot use the word "Scratch" to refer to derivative works (except in > >> the phrase "Based on Scratch from the MIT Media Laboratory"), > >> you cannot use the Scratch logo or the official (copyrighted) Scratch cat in > >> derivative works, > >> you cannot implement the ability to upload projects to any MIT Scratch > >> website (currently, http://scratch.mit.edu) > >> copies or derivative works must retain the Scratch copyright notice and > >> license, and > >> you must make the source code for derivative works available. > >> > >> This is just a summary; the full license is in the file "license.txt" > >> included in the source code download package. > >> > >> The purpose of these restrictions is to avoid confusion in the Scratch user > >> community between the official version of Scratch (supported by the Lifelong > >> Kindergarten group) and experimental variations. We are happy the share our > >> source code, but we want to protect the Scratch brand and our user > >> community." > >> > >> You can find the license.txt file attached. > >> > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Joan. > >> El 26/01/2011, a las 16:07, St?phane Ducasse escribi?: > >> > >> Hello Joan > >> > >> Thanks. > >> Yes we should fix that. > >> What is the license of Scratch? > >> > >> Stef > >> > >> > >> On Jan 26, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Joan G?ell wrote: > >> > >> Hello > >> > >> We are developing software to interact with small robots for educational > >> purposes. To do this we need to use the serial port. SerialPort class that > >> includes Pharo does not work on mac or linux, because it?s not able to open > >> ports by name. > >> > >> It would be interesting that future versions include a SerialPort that would > >> work in these circumstances. we are using since a time a?go the plugin that > >> comes with Scratch, with this we just copy the plugins in the folder of the > >> VM, the Plugin that comes with the VM Scrath, and add to the image of the > >> image classes of Scratch , ScratchPlugin and SerialPort2.Up to date this has > >> worked on all VM including the latest Cog. > >> > >> It works on Linux, Mac or Windows.We wory that future versions will lose > >> support. > >> > >> > >> The source code for the plugins can be found on: > >> > >> http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Source_Code > >> > >> ScratchPluginSrc1.4.zip > >> > >> Joan G?ell > >> > >> jguell(a)e-citilab.eu > >> > >> Joan G?ell > >> > >> jguell(a)e-citilab.eu > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Joan G?ell > >> jguell(a)e-citilab.eu > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >

Jan. 27, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Serial Port

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Yes so I would ban the code and we will fix it ourselves. We do not want to end in 30 different variant of the MIT license. They should not have change the license like that.... Error is repeating itself. Stef On Jan 26, 2011, at 4:42 PM, James Ashley wrote: > I haven't looked at the official license.txt, but the summary looks > quite a bit different than what I (or the GNU foundation) consider > "the" MIT license, at http://www.jclark.com/xml/copying.txt. > > Not that I'm a lawyer or my opinion means anything at all here. > > Respectfully, > James > > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Joan GÃ¼ell <jguell(a)e-citilab.eu> wrote: >> Hi Stef, >> As you can see at http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Source_Code, the Scratch >> license seems to be MIT. Textually: >> >> "The Scratch source code license allows you to distribute derivative works >> based on the Scratch source code for non-commercial uses subject to the >> following restrictions: >> >> you cannot use the word "Scratch" to refer to derivative works (except in >> the phrase "Based on Scratch from the MIT Media Laboratory"), >> you cannot use the Scratch logo or the official (copyrighted) Scratch cat in >> derivative works, >> you cannot implement the ability to upload projects to any MIT Scratch >> website (currently, http://scratch.mit.edu) >> copies or derivative works must retain the Scratch copyright notice and >> license, and >> you must make the source code for derivative works available. >> >> This is just a summary; the full license is in the file "license.txt" >> included in the source code download package. >> >> The purpose of these restrictions is to avoid confusion in the Scratch user >> community between the official version of Scratch (supported by the Lifelong >> Kindergarten group) and experimental variations. We are happy the share our >> source code, but we want to protect the Scratch brand and our user >> community." >> >> You can find the license.txt file attached. >> >> >> Cheers, >> Joan. >> El 26/01/2011, a las 16:07, StÃ©phane Ducasse escribiÃ³: >> >> Hello Joan >> >> Thanks. >> Yes we should fix that. >> What is the license of Scratch? >> >> Stef >> >> >> On Jan 26, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Joan GÃ¼ell wrote: >> >> Hello >> >> We are developing software to interact with small robots for educational >> purposes. To do this we need to use the serial port. SerialPort class that >> includes Pharo does not work on mac or linux, because itÂ´s not able to open >> ports by name. >> >> It would be interesting that future versions include a SerialPort that would >> work in these circumstances. we are using since a time aÂ´go the plugin that >> comes with Scratch, with this we just copy the plugins in the folder of the >> VM, the Plugin that comes with the VM Scrath, and add to the image of the >> image classes of Scratch , ScratchPlugin and SerialPort2.Up to date this has >> worked on all VM including the latest Cog. >> >> It works on Linux, Mac or Windows.We wory that future versions will lose >> support. >> >> >> The source code for the plugins can be found on: >> >> http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Source_Code >> >> ScratchPluginSrc1.4.zip >> >> Joan GÃ¼ell >> >> jguell(a)e-citilab.eu >> >> Joan GÃ¼ell >> >> jguell(a)e-citilab.eu >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Joan GÃ¼ell >> jguell(a)e-citilab.eu >> >> >> >> >

Jan. 27, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Serial Port

by James Ashley

I haven't looked at the official license.txt, but the summary looks quite a bit different than what I (or the GNU foundation) consider "the" MIT license, at http://www.jclark.com/xml/copying.txt. Not that I'm a lawyer or my opinion means anything at all here. Respectfully, James On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Joan GÃ¼ell <jguell(a)e-citilab.eu> wrote: > Hi Stef, > As you can see atÂ http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Source_Code, the Scratch > license seems to be MIT. Textually: > > "The Scratch source code license allows you to distribute derivative works > based on the Scratch source code for non-commercial uses subject to the > following restrictions: > > you cannot use the word "Scratch" to refer to derivativeÂ Â works (except in > the phrase "Based on Scratch from the MIT Media Laboratory"), > you cannot use the Scratch logo or the official (copyrighted) Scratch cat in > derivative works, > you cannot implement the ability to upload projects to any MIT Scratch > website (currently, http://scratch.mit.edu) > copies or derivative works must retain the Scratch copyright notice and > license, and > you must make the source code for derivative works available. > > This is just a summary; the full license is in the file "license.txt" > included in the source code download package. > > The purpose of these restrictions is to avoid confusion in the Scratch user > community between the official version of Scratch (supported by the Lifelong > Kindergarten group) and experimental variations. We are happy the share our > source code, but we want to protect the Scratch brand and our user > community." > > You can find the license.txt file attached. > > > Cheers, > Joan. > El 26/01/2011, a las 16:07, StÃ©phane Ducasse escribiÃ³: > > Hello Joan > > Thanks. > Yes we should fix that. > What is the license of Scratch? > > Stef > > > On Jan 26, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Joan GÃ¼ell wrote: > > Hello > > We are developing software to interact with small robots for educational > purposes. To do this we need to use the serial port. SerialPort class that > includes Pharo does not work on mac or linux, because itÂ´s not Â able to open > ports by name. > > It would be interesting that future versions include a SerialPort that would > work in these circumstances. Â we are using since a time aÂ´go the plugin that > comes with Scratch, with this we just copy the plugins in the folder of the > VM, the Plugin that comes with the VM Scrath, and add to the image of the > image classes of Scratch , ScratchPlugin and SerialPort2.Up to date this has > worked on all VM including the latest Cog. > > It works on Linux, Mac or Windows.We wory that future versions will lose > support. > > > The source code for the plugins can be found on: > > http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Source_Code > > ScratchPluginSrc1.4.zip > > Joan GÃ¼ell > > jguell(a)e-citilab.eu > > Joan GÃ¼ell > > jguell(a)e-citilab.eu > > > > > > > Joan GÃ¼ell > jguell(a)e-citilab.eu > > > >

Jan. 27, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Serial Port

by Joan GÃ¼ell

Hi Stef, As you can see at http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Source_Code, the Scratch license seems to be MIT. Textually: "The Scratch source code license allows you to distribute derivative works based on the Scratch source code for non-commercial uses subject to the following restrictions: you cannot use the word "Scratch" to refer to derivative works (except in the phrase "Based on Scratch from the MIT Media Laboratory"), you cannot use the Scratch logo or the official (copyrighted) Scratch cat in derivative works, you cannot implement the ability to upload projects to any MIT Scratch website (currently, http://scratch.mit.edu) copies or derivative works must retain the Scratch copyright notice and license, and you must make the source code for derivative works available. This is just a summary; the full license is in the file "license.txt" included in the source code download package. The purpose of these restrictions is to avoid confusion in the Scratch user community between the official version of Scratch (supported by the Lifelong Kindergarten group) and experimental variations. We are happy the share our source code, but we want to protect the Scratch brand and our user community." You can find the license.txt file attached. Cheers, Joan. El 26/01/2011, a las 16:07, StÃ©phane Ducasse escribiÃ³: > Hello Joan > > Thanks. > Yes we should fix that. > What is the license of Scratch? > > Stef > > > On Jan 26, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Joan GÃ¼ell wrote: > >> Hello >> We are developing software to interact with small robots for educational purposes. To do this we need to use the serial port. SerialPort class that includes Pharo does not work on mac or linux, because itÂ´s not able to open ports by name. >> It would be interesting that future versions include a SerialPort that would work in these circumstances. we are using since a time aÂ´go the plugin that comes with Scratch, with this we just copy the plugins in the folder of the VM, the Plugin that comes with the VM Scrath, and add to the image of the image classes of Scratch , ScratchPlugin and SerialPort2.Up to date this has worked on all VM including the latest Cog. >> It works on Linux, Mac or Windows.We wory that future versions will lose support. >> >> >> The source code for the plugins can be found on: >> >> http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Source_Code >> >> ScratchPluginSrc1.4.zip >> >> Joan GÃ¼ell >> jguell(a)e-citilab.eu >> Joan GÃ¼ell >> jguell(a)e-citilab.eu >> >> >> > > Joan GÃ¼ell jguell(a)e-citilab.eu

Jan. 27, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Serial Port

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hello Joan Thanks. Yes we should fix that. What is the license of Scratch? Stef On Jan 26, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Joan GÃ¼ell wrote: > Hello > We are developing software to interact with small robots for educational purposes. To do this we need to use the serial port. SerialPort class that includes Pharo does not work on mac or linux, because itÂ´s not able to open ports by name. > It would be interesting that future versions include a SerialPort that would work in these circumstances. we are using since a time aÂ´go the plugin that comes with Scratch, with this we just copy the plugins in the folder of the VM, the Plugin that comes with the VM Scrath, and add to the image of the image classes of Scratch , ScratchPlugin and SerialPort2.Up to date this has worked on all VM including the latest Cog. > It works on Linux, Mac or Windows.We wory that future versions will lose support. > > > The source code for the plugins can be found on: > > http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Source_Code > > ScratchPluginSrc1.4.zip > > Joan GÃ¼ell > jguell(a)e-citilab.eu > Joan GÃ¼ell > jguell(a)e-citilab.eu > > >

Jan. 27, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] TestMock v-9 published; now works with Pharo 1.1.1

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Tx! On Jan 26, 2011, at 7:49 AM, Anindya Haldar wrote: > Dear Smalltalkers, > > I am glad to make an updated version (v9) of the mocking framework TestMock available with added Pharo 1.1.1 support. Previously reported v8 issues arising from the deprecation of KeyedSet and some other changes with TestCase and Boolean classes in Pharo 1.1.1 have been fixed. This version continues to work with Pharo 1.0 and Seaside-2.8 dev images as before. > > Here is the link to the project: > http://www.squeaksource.com/TestMock.html > > Happy smalltalking! > > Regards, > - Anindya Haldar > > > >

Jan. 27, 2011

Serial Port

by Joan GÃ¼ell

Hello We are developing software to interact with small robots for educational purposes. To do this we need to use the serial port. SerialPort class that includes Pharo does not work on mac or linux, because itÂ´s not able to open ports by name. It would be interesting that future versions include a SerialPort that would work in these circumstances. we are using since a time aÂ´go the plugin that comes with Scratch, with this we just copy the plugins in the folder of the VM, the Plugin that comes with the VM Scrath, and add to the image of the image classes of Scratch , ScratchPlugin and SerialPort2.Up to date this has worked on all VM including the latest Cog. It works on Linux, Mac or Windows.We wory that future versions will lose support. The source code for the plugins can be found on: http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Source_Code ScratchPluginSrc1.4.zip Joan GÃ¼ell jguell(a)e-citilab.eu Joan GÃ¼ell jguell(a)e-citilab.eu

Jan. 26, 2011