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Re: [Pharo-users] Network save and load

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Dec 4, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > Le 04/12/2011 10:39, StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : > >>> One day it will be nice to have a dedicated Smalltalk web server, so >>> DrGeo sketches could be rendered, updated, managed Ã la Smalltalk. >> >> I do not get your question. >> Zinc, Swazoo, seaside are web servers. > > I meant writing a dedicated Dr. Geo Web application using one of these > Smalltalk servers. > you can do that based on Zinc. Stef > -- > Dr. Geo -- http://www.drgeo.eu > >

Dec. 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Network save and load

by Hilaire Fernandes

Le 04/12/2011 10:39, StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : >> One day it will be nice to have a dedicated Smalltalk web server, so >> DrGeo sketches could be rendered, updated, managed Ã la Smalltalk. > > I do not get your question. > Zinc, Swazoo, seaside are web servers. I meant writing a dedicated Dr. Geo Web application using one of these Smalltalk servers. -- Dr. Geo -- http://www.drgeo.eu

Dec. 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Network save and load

by Hilaire Fernandes

Le 04/12/2011 10:20, Janko MivÅ¡ek a Ã©crit : > S, Hilaire Fernandes piÅ¡e: > >> Janko MivÅ¡ek a Ã©crit : > >>> WebDAV has additional advantage that is supported in many desktop apps >>> like MS Office and LibreOffice. It essentially enables you to "save to >>> the web" directly. >>> >>> For instance you can open an attachment in Aida/Scribo, edit it and save >>> directly back to that attachment. No need to save localy, delete old >>> attachment and attach back new one. > >> Are you relying on the Zinc class library to access WebDav resources. Nice to know. Hilaire

Dec. 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] portable smalltalk, how ?

by t olschewski

Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote > > This is not that different from the C world I guess. > I think the C world is slightly different in one important respect. In the C world layers are rather cleanly separated from one another: C (or C++) compiler, standard library, framework + application specific libraries. In the C (or C++) world it is possible to - more or less freely - combine compiler A with IDE B, using framework C and external libraries D. After compiling the executable does not depend e.g. on the IDE anymore. In smalltalk, if I decide to use dialect A then I feel more or less bound to using library A, IDE A and GUI framework A. The program still depends on the image type I was using in development (or even on the VM) unless I limit myself to a well-defined kernel like ansi which doesn't provide portable graphics + network APIs. My tool developed in squeak 4.1/pharo 1.1 in this spring does not run in squeak 4.2/pharo 1.3 without modifications. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/portable-smalltalk-how-tp4118832p4156504.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Network save and load

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Dec 4, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > Le 03/12/2011 17:46, Janko MivÅ¡ek a Ã©crit : >> WebDAV has additional advantage that is supported in many desktop apps >> like MS Office and LibreOffice. It essentially enables you to "save to >> the web" directly. >> >> For instance you can open an attachment in Aida/Scribo, edit it and save >> directly back to that attachment. No need to save localy, delete old >> attachment and attach back new one. > > > Are you relying on the Zinc class library to access WebDav resources. > > One day it will be nice to have a dedicated Smalltalk web server, so > DrGeo sketches could be rendered, updated, managed Ã la Smalltalk. I do not get your question. Zinc, Swazoo, seaside are web servers. > > Hilaire > > > > -- > Dr. Geo -- http://www.drgeo.eu > >

Dec. 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Network save and load

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

S, Hilaire Fernandes piÅ¡e: > Janko MivÅ¡ek a Ã©crit : >> WebDAV has additional advantage that is supported in many desktop apps >> like MS Office and LibreOffice. It essentially enables you to "save to >> the web" directly. >> >> For instance you can open an attachment in Aida/Scribo, edit it and save >> directly back to that attachment. No need to save localy, delete old >> attachment and attach back new one. > Are you relying on the Zinc class library to access WebDav resources. No, Swazoo and Aida/Web, to serve WebDAV resources. > One day it will be nice to have a dedicated Smalltalk web server, so > DrGeo sketches could be rendered, updated, managed Ã la Smalltalk. -- Janko MivÅ¡ek Aida/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

Dec. 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Network save and load

by Hilaire Fernandes

Le 03/12/2011 17:46, Janko MivÅ¡ek a Ã©crit : > WebDAV has additional advantage that is supported in many desktop apps > like MS Office and LibreOffice. It essentially enables you to "save to > the web" directly. > > For instance you can open an attachment in Aida/Scribo, edit it and save > directly back to that attachment. No need to save localy, delete old > attachment and attach back new one. Are you relying on the Zinc class library to access WebDav resources. One day it will be nice to have a dedicated Smalltalk web server, so DrGeo sketches could be rendered, updated, managed Ã la Smalltalk. Hilaire -- Dr. Geo -- http://www.drgeo.eu

Dec. 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Network save and load

by Hilaire Fernandes

Le 03/12/2011 17:21, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : > > On 03 Dec 2011, at 16:52, Davorin Rusevljan wrote: > >> Well, aside from being a bit complex, ftp is also quite dated, and question is how many users would like to save to ftp or have ftp accounts. Maybe then WebDAV, it can be served by most web servers? > > What I described should be WebDAV compatible (more or less, I haven't tried). It will be great. Hilaire -- Dr. Geo -- http://www.drgeo.eu

Dec. 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Network save and load

by Hilaire Fernandes

For the server side I should not do anything. It should rely on existing server in school or whatever: FTP or even WebDav service as it exists in Apache or even CMS applicaton like Zope, may be Moodle ? Hilaire Le 03/12/2011 22:30, StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : > Hilaire > > if you have a simple solution for the server side I would be interested because it would be a cool example for the chapter on Zinc. > > Stef > On Dec 3, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > >> >> "List my drawings" >> >> ZnClient new >> username: 'john' password: 'secret'; >> get: 'http://www.drgeo.eu/drawings/johnsbook/'. >> >> >> The server side would not be that much work either: have a look at how the ZnMonticelloServerDelegate class (to be combined with a ZnServer). This implements a comparable protocol. > > > -- Dr. Geo -- http://www.drgeo.eu

Dec. 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] [COTDC] 89 - NullStream

by Igor Stasenko

On 3 December 2011 23:27, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > I'm a stream doing nothing (NullObject pattern). I can be handy when a stream is needed and that we need to do nothing (for example > a logging in off mode). > is it for write only or for read as well (always answering nil and always 'at end')? > Stef > On Dec 3, 2011, at 11:29 AM, sean(a)clipperadams.com wrote: > >> Continuing in Collections... >> >> Today: Â NullStream >> >> >> Comment Of The Day Contest - One Day One Comment >> Rules: >> #1: Each day a not commented class is elected. Each day the best comment will be integrated with name of the author(s). >> #2: If you cannot comment it, deprecate it. >> Results: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/CommentOfTheDayContest >> >> p.s. this message was sent from a pharo image. Did you know you could easily do that?! >> > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Dec. 3, 2011