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Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Morphic View Application Framework

by S Krish

The PDF documentation of the framework. Obliged for review/ read and comment and try out the first release.. Ben, I have done a first read of the Spec and I will get my head around how this should be converge.. Will work on that. Though I must note that the spec framework I have laid out is simplistic, flexible and uses the current framework of classes/ morphs without the ValueModel wrapper. Perhaps there is a common ground there, but I would like to emphasize on flexibility of spec and explicit construction to mix and built out has been central to the thought process. On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:28 AM, S Krish <krishnamachari.sudhakar(a)gmail.com > wrote: > > http://skrishnamachari.wordpress.com/2012/01/31/pharo-application-framework… > > Obliged for feedback ... > > For details and links.. > > Sharing this little framework that should go some way to ease creating > large applications ( currently morphic oriented). > > AbstractMorphicView subclass: #MyNewView â¦ > > #createMorphsSpecs > > ^{ > > âpanel1â² -> #SomeOtherView. > âlabel1â² -> #LabelMorph. > âtext1â² -> #PluggableTextMorph. > âbutton1â² -> #PluggableButtonMorph. > } > > layoutSpecsArray > > ^{ > âwidgetNameInMorphsDictionaryâ -> { > #fractions -> (0 @ 0 corner: 1 @ 0.5). â fractional value 0 to 1 range â > #offsets -> (10 @ 10 corner: 0 @ 0). â offsets relative to the fractional > position â > }. > > ââ¦ add other widgetspecsâ¦â > } > > Thats it.. you should have a prototype UI neatly laid out.. and then > specify: #morphsPrimaryPropertiesSpecs and #morphsSecondaryPropertiesSpecs > for full functionality that composes views inside views and scales well. > > AbstractSimpleMorphicView can make it simpler for TableLayout stuff > without requiring #layoutSpecsArray. > > ..... the main post has other details and links to package... >

Feb. 4, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Text morph with line numbers?

by Tudor Girba

Hi Igor, On 2 Feb 2012, at 14:22, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 2 February 2012 07:13, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >> Hi Igor, >> >> A TextMorph can be used for all sorts of purposes, not just Smalltalk code. >> > In theory. > In practice, for those who want something else than editing small > snippets of st code, > i'd recommend to use (or implement) something else. > > The text representation model which TextMorph uses, doesn't scale for > large texts. In theory, this would be a good solution. In practice, we do not have anything else right now :). Cheers, Doru >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Sometimes the best solution is not the best solution."

Feb. 2, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Text morph with line numbers?

by Igor Stasenko

On 2 February 2012 07:13, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Hi Igor, > > A TextMorph can be used for all sorts of purposes, not just Smalltalk code. > In theory. In practice, for those who want something else than editing small snippets of st code, i'd recommend to use (or implement) something else. The text representation model which TextMorph uses, doesn't scale for large texts. > Cheers, > Doru > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Feb. 2, 2012

Oops

by Werner Kassens

Hi, i was loading something from a directory into an old 1.1 image via monticello and then it said things like updating pharoinbox and updating whatever. i tried to stop that but it was not possible so i shut down my computer. i am not sure what i should do? please excuse werner

Feb. 2, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Text morph with line numbers?

by S Krish

My plans are of having Pharo as the primary platform and Groovy to support integration to the outside world of plethora of frameworks.. This will easily form the base for the Groovy ( syntax highlighted) simple editor.. !.. though complex work can move to eclipse... On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I would be interested in something like this, as well. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > On 1 Feb 2012, at 21:30, Guillermo Polito wrote: > > > Hi Nahuel! > > > > Not long ago (young 1.3 I think) there was a transcript implementation > that showed line numbers(or something like that)... I don't know where to > find it now, but at least you have a hint to track down :). > > > > Saludos, > > Guille > > > > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Nahuel Garbezza <n.garbezza(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > In Nautilus there is something similar which show how characters the > method is composed of. > > > > > > You should be able to hack it (PluggableTextMorphWithLimit) > > > > > > (Even if I think Igor's right ;) ) > > > > > > Ben > > > > > > > > > On Feb 1, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > > > > > >> On 1 February 2012 15:47, Nahuel Garbezza <n.garbezza(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > >>> Hi all, > > >>> > > >>> Is there any text morph that shows line numbers? I mean something > like > > >>> that: > http://developer.qt.nokia.com/doc/qt-4.8/images/codeeditor-example.png > > >>> > > >> Dunno. And don't care :) > > >> > > >> Once you need a line numbers in smalltalk code, it means that you > > >> doing something wrong > > >> and your code needs to be refactored. > > >> > > > > Thanks for the answers (I agree with you) but I don't need this for > > Smalltalk code. > > > > Nahuel > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Obvious things are difficult to teach." > > > > >

Feb. 2, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Text morph with line numbers?

by Tudor Girba

Hi Igor, A TextMorph can be used for all sorts of purposes, not just Smalltalk code. Cheers, Doru On 1 Feb 2012, at 16:11, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 1 February 2012 15:47, Nahuel Garbezza <n.garbezza(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Is there any text morph that shows line numbers? I mean something like >> that: http://developer.qt.nokia.com/doc/qt-4.8/images/codeeditor-example.png >> > Dunno. And don't care :) > > Once you need a line numbers in smalltalk code, it means that you > doing something wrong > and your code needs to be refactored. > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. > -- www.tudorgirba.com "From an abstract enough point of view, any two things are similar."

Feb. 2, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Text morph with line numbers?

by Tudor Girba

Hi, I would be interested in something like this, as well. Cheers, Doru On 1 Feb 2012, at 21:30, Guillermo Polito wrote: > Hi Nahuel! > > Not long ago (young 1.3 I think) there was a transcript implementation that showed line numbers(or something like that)... I don't know where to find it now, but at least you have a hint to track down :). > > Saludos, > Guille > > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Nahuel Garbezza <n.garbezza(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > In Nautilus there is something similar which show how characters the method is composed of. > > > > You should be able to hack it (PluggableTextMorphWithLimit) > > > > (Even if I think Igor's right ;) ) > > > > Ben > > > > > > On Feb 1, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > > > >> On 1 February 2012 15:47, Nahuel Garbezza <n.garbezza(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> Is there any text morph that shows line numbers? I mean something like > >>> that: http://developer.qt.nokia.com/doc/qt-4.8/images/codeeditor-example.png > >>> > >> Dunno. And don't care :) > >> > >> Once you need a line numbers in smalltalk code, it means that you > >> doing something wrong > >> and your code needs to be refactored. > >> > > Thanks for the answers (I agree with you) but I don't need this for > Smalltalk code. > > Nahuel > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Obvious things are difficult to teach."

Feb. 2, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Cancel or Not the conference? **Important** Pharo Conference Call for Date Feedback

by Larry Trutter

Sorry, I can't make it to the conference. -Larry Sent from my iPod On Feb 1, 2012, at 1:15 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi guys > > So far I got only 4 replies so I will wait until next monday and if there is no more feedback than that we will probably cancel the conference. > > Stef > > > On Jan 30, 2012, at 3:18 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Hi guys >> >> We want to organize a Pharo Conference @ lille around business and companies in May/June 2012. Now we need you to understand what is the best to organize because we have some constraints (like not good access to rooms on saturday). >> >> Could you reply to the following questions: >> >> Are you planning to attend: Yes No >> >> Would you attend two days: Yes No >> >> Would you like to present something: Yes No >> >> Would you prefer to have (remove the one you do not like) >> - one friday and one saturday >> or >> - two days during the week would be not a problem. >> >> Would you like to have >> Handons: Yes No >> >> Business/Experience returns: Yes No >> >> What are the following dates that are ok for you? >> Frid 11- Satur 12 May 2012: Yes No >> >> Thur 10- Frid 11 May 2012: Yes No >> >> Mond 14- Tuesd 15 May 2012: Yes No >> >> Tuesd 15- Wedn 16 May 2012: Yes No >> >> Thur 24 - Frid 25 May 2012: Yes No >> >> Frid 25- Satur 26 May 2012: Yes No >> >> >> Stef >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > >

Feb. 2, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Text morph with line numbers?

by Guillermo Polito

Hi Nahuel! Not long ago (young 1.3 I think) there was a transcript implementation that showed line numbers(or something like that)... I don't know where to find it now, but at least you have a hint to track down :). Saludos, Guille On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Nahuel Garbezza <n.garbezza(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > In Nautilus there is something similar which show how characters the > method is composed of. > > > > You should be able to hack it (PluggableTextMorphWithLimit) > > > > (Even if I think Igor's right ;) ) > > > > Ben > > > > > > On Feb 1, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > > > >> On 1 February 2012 15:47, Nahuel Garbezza <n.garbezza(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> Is there any text morph that shows line numbers? I mean something like > >>> that: > http://developer.qt.nokia.com/doc/qt-4.8/images/codeeditor-example.png > >>> > >> Dunno. And don't care :) > >> > >> Once you need a line numbers in smalltalk code, it means that you > >> doing something wrong > >> and your code needs to be refactored. > >> > > Thanks for the answers (I agree with you) but I don't need this for > Smalltalk code. > > Nahuel > >

Feb. 1, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Morphic View Application Framework

by S Krish

Primarily for the view spec framework if I want it purely segregated it would only require the AbstractMorphicView class and can work absolutely independent of the rest of the classes you see, with removing the initializations for MorphicEventHandler/ MorphicMouseHandler in the accessors. ****************** Will provide a doc / little better explanation by weekend. Immediate answer is, this is just not for Morphic View but adds up other capabilities as I mentioned intrinsically to a created application, including: * Configuration based constants, Logging, Translation, mouse/ keyboard handlers on a view level, NamedPrototype and a common Object class for such apps in PharoMorphicObject * subclass a basic MorphicViewController to add a SupervisingController capability as per MVP explanation by Martin Fowler. * MorphicViewEventHandler and MorphicViewMouseHandler are for default keyboard shortcuts and mouse handling at the view level over and above per widget. many of these capabilities I am wanting the framework to posses, is standard for any small/medium/large enterprise application to have. I do see your point though .. a package segregation can be done with probably just one or two classes for the basic view framework and then add packages that have incremental needs fulfilled can be done to reduce fortitous complexity up front. On 2/1/12, Benjamin Van Ryseghem <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I read your code but I can't understand why there are so many classes to > provide such an API. > > > Ben > > 2012/2/1 S Krish <krishnamachari.sudhakar(a)gmail.com> > >> I will provide this by the weekend >> >> The code though has tests which are quite explanatory and the classside >> method of the ApplicationFrameworkdDocumentation has 6 odd methods that >> lead on from intent, what Pharo provides which maybe leveraged in future >> if >> not now and the current implementation as well as a roadmap. >> >> I will read your specs and implementation to merge the stuff I envisage >> with >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Benjamin < >> benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> If you have around the pdf you are talking about on your website, I will >>> be glad to read it. >>> >>> >>> Thanks in advance ;) >>> >>> Ben >>> >>> On Jan 31, 2012, at 5:58 AM, S Krish wrote: >>> >>> >>> http://skrishnamachari.wordpress.com/2012/01/31/pharo-application-framework… >>> >>> Obliged for feedback ... >>> >>> For details and links.. >>> >>> Sharing this little framework that should go some way to ease creating >>> large applications ( currently morphic oriented). >>> >>> AbstractMorphicView subclass: #MyNewView â¦ >>> >>> #createMorphsSpecs >>> >>> ^{ >>> >>> âpanel1â² -> #SomeOtherView. >>> âlabel1â² -> #LabelMorph. >>> âtext1â² -> #PluggableTextMorph. >>> âbutton1â² -> #PluggableButtonMorph. >>> } >>> >>> layoutSpecsArray >>> >>> ^{ >>> âwidgetNameInMorphsDictionaryâ -> { >>> #fractions -> (0 @ 0 corner: 1 @ 0.5). â fractional value 0 to 1 range â >>> #offsets -> (10 @ 10 corner: 0 @ 0). â offsets relative to the fractional >>> position â >>> }. >>> >>> ââ¦ add other widgetspecsâ¦â >>> } >>> >>> Thats it.. you should have a prototype UI neatly laid out.. and then >>> specify: #morphsPrimaryPropertiesSpecs and >>> #morphsSecondaryPropertiesSpecs >>> for full functionality that composes views inside views and scales well. >>> >>> AbstractSimpleMorphicView can make it simpler for TableLayout stuff >>> without requiring #layoutSpecsArray. >>> >>> ..... the main post has other details and links to package... >>> >>> >>> >> >

Feb. 1, 2012