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How to try out XTreams

by Tim Mackinnon

Hi guys - I've been meaning to learn how to use XTreams and so I wanted to have a play in Pharo - however I am confused about how best to load it? I want to stick to a stable image - so I downloaded the 1.4 summer edition from the website, and then the XTreams project page seemed to point me to Squeak source and the install instructions seem quite old? As in there are Gofer instructions which I'm not convinced load the most up to date code. If I try and load a later mcz file it starts complaining about unsatisfied pre-requisites? I thought all this loading stuff was now sorted with metacello - but I don't see any references to this anywhere? Actually in typing this - it occurs to me that there was a welcome screen somewhere in Pharo that described how to load stuff so I've just gone and checked and found the MetacelloConfigurationBrowser - and now noticed there is an untrusted entry for XTreams. Is this how I'm suppposed to load it? If it is - is there any way of getting the Squeak source instructions updated, or even better the XTreams project page to give better directions (as this would have saved me time). Tim -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-to-try-out-XTreams-tp4657923.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] (sans objet)

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 03 Dec 2012, at 18:33, S Krish <krishnamachari.sudhakar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > http://www.zdnet.com/dell-xps-13-laptop-the-ubuntu-developer-edition-arrive… > > I have through last 4 years worked on Ubuntu customizing it for my work.. Never got around to establishing a baseline, I thought of setting up for sharing. Great to hear that Dell has worked on it and brought up a great hardware too to back it. > > Will get hold of this laptop... > > Can we rig up Pharo on to this ? Pharo already comes inbuilt with MC repo, Unit Test framework , profiling tools etc.. but eventually will need a lot more towards an enterprise grade deliverable, including Git / SVN, Web dev publishing, etc.. Kind of connected groovier combination of all elements that plays easy to get it going / deliver MacBookAir 13 is still better for the same money. You can run Ubuntu on that too - I believe that is what Linus himself does. Sad to see that the XPS13 with Linux is actually more expensive than Windows. If open source spirit is important, something like www.system76.com and friends seems better. Anyway, this is seriously off topic ;-) BTW, Enterprise Pharo Smalltalk should be good on all platforms - it actually already is ! -- Sven Van Caekenberghe http://stfx.eu Smalltalk is the Red Pill

Dec. 3, 2012

Ubuntu Developer Edition

by S Krish

Sorry forgot to mark a subject and beta Google did not prompt me to add one..! On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 11:03 PM, S Krish <krishnamachari.sudhakar(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > http://www.zdnet.com/dell-xps-13-laptop-the-ubuntu-developer-edition-arrive… > > I have through last 4 years worked on Ubuntu customizing it for my work.. > Never got around to establishing a baseline, I thought of setting up for > sharing. Great to hear that Dell has worked on it and brought up a great > hardware too to back it. > > Will get hold of this laptop... > > Can we rig up Pharo on to this ? Pharo already comes inbuilt with MC repo, > Unit Test framework , profiling tools etc.. but eventually will need a lot > more towards an enterprise grade deliverable, including Git / SVN, Web dev > publishing, etc.. Kind of connected groovier combination of all elements > that plays easy to get it going / deliver >

Dec. 3, 2012

(sans objet)

by S Krish

http://www.zdnet.com/dell-xps-13-laptop-the-ubuntu-developer-edition-arrive… I have through last 4 years worked on Ubuntu customizing it for my work.. Never got around to establishing a baseline, I thought of setting up for sharing. Great to hear that Dell has worked on it and brought up a great hardware too to back it. Will get hold of this laptop... Can we rig up Pharo on to this ? Pharo already comes inbuilt with MC repo, Unit Test framework , profiling tools etc.. but eventually will need a lot more towards an enterprise grade deliverable, including Git / SVN, Web dev publishing, etc.. Kind of connected groovier combination of all elements that plays easy to get it going / deliver

Dec. 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalks Videos

by Sebastian Nozzi

Wow! Tons of videos! Thanks for sharing... I'll need big buckets of pop-corn... :-D 2012/12/3 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: > There are now a lot of Videos online from Smalltalks, both last month and 2011. > > *A lot* of Pharo related videos! > > Playlist 2012: > https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCGAAdUizzH31VumrhrK2HHepHu3DBpY0 > > Playlist 2011: > https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE90823AFF9C8177B > > Marcus

Dec. 3, 2012

Smalltalks Videos

by Marcus Denker

There are now a lot of Videos online from Smalltalks, both last month and 2011. *A lot* of Pharo related videos! Playlist 2012: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCGAAdUizzH31VumrhrK2HHepHu3DBpY0 Playlist 2011: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE90823AFF9C8177B Marcus

Dec. 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] [Newbies] Stackoverflow - for raising mindshare?

by Sebastian Nozzi

So far the reactions have been positive. I am (positively) surprised :-) I want to cross-post (squeak/pharo) these in particular. 2012/12/3 Camillo Bruni: > yes!! very important! smalltalk has too little presence in the web! Yes, unfortunately. But we can change that ;-) > mailinglists won't help with that fact, as they act almost as closed communities. > Also it happens way too often that questions are re-asked and reposted, whereas they > could be answered on stackoverflow. 2012/12/3 H. Hirzel: > Yes, I think cross-posting is a good idea. > And I suggest that you post to Stackoverflow first and then invite > people from the Squeak list to contribute. Good idea. > The answers on stackoverflow are indexed in a better way than in this > mailing list. > Note aside: good keywords in mailing lists posts also help to identify > an answer in the archive. Didn't think of that, good point. I tend to write too much rather than too little anyway :-) Thanks all of you for your feedback, Sebastian

Dec. 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Stackoverflow - for raising mindshare?

by Camillo Bruni

On 2012-12-03, at 09:43, Sebastian Nozzi <sebnozzi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 2012/12/3 dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk>: >> I dont think stackoverflow can and should replace the >> mailing lists but its still is a welcomed addition. > > Yes, of course. I was not arguing about replacing the mailing-lists! No way! :-) > > But I think it's a good addition, as you say, and: > - helps sending a signal to the world/developer community > - maybe prevents from questions arising again and again in the mailing-lists > - creates dynamic, specific, de-centralized pool of knowledge yes!! very important! smalltalk has too little presence in the web! mailinglists won't help with that fact, as they act almost as closed communities. Also it happens way too often that questions are re-asked and reposted, whereas they could be answered on stackoverflow.

Dec. 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Stackoverflow - for raising mindshare?

by Sebastian Nozzi

2012/12/3 dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk>: > I dont think stackoverflow can and should replace the > mailing lists but its still is a welcomed addition. Yes, of course. I was not arguing about replacing the mailing-lists! No way! :-) But I think it's a good addition, as you say, and: - helps sending a signal to the world/developer community - maybe prevents from questions arising again and again in the mailing-lists - creates dynamic, specific, de-centralized pool of knowledge > By the way i tried to answer your git question. :) I saw that, voted and commented, thanks!

Dec. 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Stackoverflow - for raising mindshare?

by dimitris chloupis

I really like stackoverflow . I visit it quite often to learn something new by browsing all questions. As suprising it may sound the questions interest me more than the answers because expose areas I am not familiar or aware of. It also good idea to show people that there is an active interest in pharo but I think thats up to the people asking the questions. I dont think stackoverflow can and should replace the mailing lists but its still is a welcomed addition. By the way i tried to answer your git question. :) ________________________________ From: Sebastian Nozzi <sebnozzi(a)gmail.com> To: A friendly place where any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr>; A friendly place to get answers to even the most basic questions about Squeak. <Beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> Sent: Monday, 3 December 2012, 14:14 Subject: [Pharo-users] Stackoverflow - for raising mindshare? Hello fellow Squeak/Pharo users, at work I find stack-overflow a quite valuable resource whenever I get stuck with something (Java, Ruby, Unix, etc.). What do you think about the idea of using it more, so that: - people starting with Smalltalk can find answers there apart from digging in the mailing-lists - raising the awareness/mind-share about open-source Smalltalk in the "outside world"? I for one will try to double-post my questions both in the corresponding mailing lists and stack-overflow, and whenever I find good information that might be helpful for newcomers, I'll try to post it there also. It might help attracting more people to open-source Smalltalk and gain more acceptance in the industry. Best regards, Sebastian

Dec. 3, 2012