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Re: [Pharo-users] How to try out XTreams

by Camillo Bruni

hi tim, On 2012-12-03, at 20:07, Tim Mackinnon <tamackinnon(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi guys - I've been meaning to learn how to use XTreams and so I wanted to > have a play in Pharo - however I am confused about how best to load it? > > I want to stick to a stable image - so I downloaded the 1.4 summer edition > from the website, and then the XTreams project page seemed to point me to > Squeak source and the install instructions seem quite old? As in there are > Gofer instructions which I'm not convinced load the most up to date code. If > I try and load a later mcz file it starts complaining about unsatisfied > pre-requisites? Yes, XTreams has not been fully maintained over the last year(s?). Check the instructions below for installing. Keep in mind that the squeak/pharo port is not fully up to date. There are quite some changes done to the original xtreams which were not yet back-ported. > I thought all this loading stuff was now sorted with metacello - but I don't > see any references to this anywhere? Actually in typing this - it occurs to > me that there was a welcome screen somewhere in Pharo that described how to > load stuff so I've just gone and checked and found the > MetacelloConfigurationBrowser - and now noticed there is an untrusted entry > for XTreams. Is this how I'm suppposed to load it? Right-click => Load Configuration then you can try to install the latest version from there ConfigurationOfXtreams loadDevelopment This is standard metacello knowledge, you will find more details in the PharoByExample Metacello Chapter: http://pharobooks.gforge.inria.fr/PharoByExampleTwo-Eng/latest/Metacello.pdf > If it is - is there any way of getting the Squeak source instructions > updated, or even better the XTreams project page to give better directions > (as this would have saved me time). The configuration part is pretty standard, however the configuration should be in the xtreams repository as well. So generally there are always two locations to check where the configurations are - in the repository under a package ConfigurationOfXXX - in the MetacelloRepositor which is accessible with the configuration browser I hope that clarified things a bit.

Dec. 4, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Sinatra-like framework?

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

Dne 04. 12. 2012 16:31, piÅ¡e Sebastian Nozzi: > With "URL mapping" I mean to variables/parameters, like: > > /blog/post/{id}/{slur} > > respondWithPost: id slur: slur > ^ 'html for post' > > Since I see you are involved with Aida... can Aida do something like > that? I am not much familiar with it... Aida has a pluggable router so you can plug your own routing scheme besides default ones. I'd implement your example in something like these steps: 1. create a standalone App class, say MyBlogApp, as a subclass of WebApplication 2. register it in a router: AIDASite default router addRoutePattern: '/blog/post/*' handler: MyBlogApp new 3. create #resouceFor: method in MyBlogApp to return itself 4. continue writing the standard Aida way by implementing #viewMain etc. 5. extracting {id} and {slur} part by accessing the url of the last request: self session lastRequest urlString ... and so on. To ease all of this we can add an additional routing functionality to Aida to be available by default, after collecting some experience, how is the best way to do this. If you are interested to help ... :) Best regards Janko > > Best regards, > Sebastian > > > 2012/12/4 Sebastian Nozzi <sebnozzi(a)gmail.com>: >> Hi Janko, >> >> well, what I am looking for is: >> >> * "nice" URLs (without Seaside-like session/callback query-parameters) >> * simple URL mapping >> * helping functionality (for dealing with query-params, cookies, >> setting/getting HTTP headers, etc.) >> >> Let's say for implementing a blog, or a simple web-page with basic >> nagivation. Don't think I need more at the moment. >> >> Best regards, >> Sebastian >> >> 2012/12/4 Janko MivÅ¡ek <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si>: >>> Hi Sebastian, >>> >>> Dne 02. 12. 2012 23:50, piÅ¡e Sebastian Nozzi: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> before I roll-out my own solution, I thought I should ask: >>>> >>>> Are you aware of a Sinatra-like web-framework for Pharo? >>>> >>>> http://www.sinatrarb.com/ >>>> >>>> Or can Zinc-HTTP do that more or less out-of-the-box? >>> >>> What are your primary expectations? Simplicity, REST, flexibility, for >>> what kind of web apps? >>> >>> Best regards >>> Janko -- Janko MivÅ¡ek Aida/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

Dec. 4, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Sinatra-like framework?

by Sebastian Nozzi

Just briefly looking at the documentation. Looks good, will try it out, thanks! 2012/12/4 Janko MivÅ¡ek <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si>: > Dne 04. 12. 2012 16:24, piÅ¡e Sebastian Nozzi: > Look at Aida tutorial to see if it suits your needs: > > http://www.aidaweb.si/tutorial > > For blog there is a Scribo CMS addon with (a bit outdated) blog > included. Wiki and website functionality is up to date. > > Best regards > Janko

Dec. 4, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Sinatra-like framework?

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

Dne 04. 12. 2012 16:24, piÅ¡e Sebastian Nozzi: > Hi Janko, > > well, what I am looking for is: > > * "nice" URLs (without Seaside-like session/callback query-parameters) > * simple URL mapping > * helping functionality (for dealing with query-params, cookies, > setting/getting HTTP headers, etc.) > > Let's say for implementing a blog, or a simple web-page with basic > nagivation. Don't think I need more at the moment. Look at Aida tutorial to see if it suits your needs: http://www.aidaweb.si/tutorial For blog there is a Scribo CMS addon with (a bit outdated) blog included. Wiki and website functionality is up to date. Best regards Janko > > Best regards, > Sebastian > > 2012/12/4 Janko MivÅ¡ek <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si>: >> Hi Sebastian, >> >> Dne 02. 12. 2012 23:50, piÅ¡e Sebastian Nozzi: >>> Hello, >>> >>> before I roll-out my own solution, I thought I should ask: >>> >>> Are you aware of a Sinatra-like web-framework for Pharo? >>> >>> http://www.sinatrarb.com/ >>> >>> Or can Zinc-HTTP do that more or less out-of-the-box? >> >> What are your primary expectations? Simplicity, REST, flexibility, for >> what kind of web apps? >> >> Best regards >> Janko -- Janko MivÅ¡ek Aida/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

Dec. 4, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Sinatra-like framework?

by Sebastian Nozzi

With "URL mapping" I mean to variables/parameters, like: /blog/post/{id}/{slur} respondWithPost: id slur: slur ^ 'html for post' Since I see you are involved with Aida... can Aida do something like that? I am not much familiar with it... Best regards, Sebastian 2012/12/4 Sebastian Nozzi <sebnozzi(a)gmail.com>: > Hi Janko, > > well, what I am looking for is: > > * "nice" URLs (without Seaside-like session/callback query-parameters) > * simple URL mapping > * helping functionality (for dealing with query-params, cookies, > setting/getting HTTP headers, etc.) > > Let's say for implementing a blog, or a simple web-page with basic > nagivation. Don't think I need more at the moment. > > Best regards, > Sebastian > > 2012/12/4 Janko MivÅ¡ek <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si>: >> Hi Sebastian, >> >> Dne 02. 12. 2012 23:50, piÅ¡e Sebastian Nozzi: >>> Hello, >>> >>> before I roll-out my own solution, I thought I should ask: >>> >>> Are you aware of a Sinatra-like web-framework for Pharo? >>> >>> http://www.sinatrarb.com/ >>> >>> Or can Zinc-HTTP do that more or less out-of-the-box? >> >> What are your primary expectations? Simplicity, REST, flexibility, for >> what kind of web apps? >> >> Best regards >> Janko >> >> -- >> Janko MivÅ¡ek >> Aida/Web >> Smalltalk Web Application Server >> http://www.aidaweb.si

Dec. 4, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Sinatra-like framework?

by Sebastian Nozzi

Hi Janko, well, what I am looking for is: * "nice" URLs (without Seaside-like session/callback query-parameters) * simple URL mapping * helping functionality (for dealing with query-params, cookies, setting/getting HTTP headers, etc.) Let's say for implementing a blog, or a simple web-page with basic nagivation. Don't think I need more at the moment. Best regards, Sebastian 2012/12/4 Janko MivÅ¡ek <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si>: > Hi Sebastian, > > Dne 02. 12. 2012 23:50, piÅ¡e Sebastian Nozzi: >> Hello, >> >> before I roll-out my own solution, I thought I should ask: >> >> Are you aware of a Sinatra-like web-framework for Pharo? >> >> http://www.sinatrarb.com/ >> >> Or can Zinc-HTTP do that more or less out-of-the-box? > > What are your primary expectations? Simplicity, REST, flexibility, for > what kind of web apps? > > Best regards > Janko > > -- > Janko MivÅ¡ek > Aida/Web > Smalltalk Web Application Server > http://www.aidaweb.si

Dec. 4, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Sinatra-like framework?

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

Hi Sebastian, Dne 02. 12. 2012 23:50, piÅ¡e Sebastian Nozzi: > Hello, > > before I roll-out my own solution, I thought I should ask: > > Are you aware of a Sinatra-like web-framework for Pharo? > > http://www.sinatrarb.com/ > > Or can Zinc-HTTP do that more or less out-of-the-box? What are your primary expectations? Simplicity, REST, flexibility, for what kind of web apps? Best regards Janko -- Janko MivÅ¡ek Aida/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

Dec. 4, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Sinatra-like framework?

by Sebastian Nozzi

2012/12/4 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > Philippe marshall presented a solution in seaside at ESUG this year. So it is really possible. You mean this? http://www.slideshare.net/esug/advanced-seaside (slide 19) I took a look at Seaside-REST and it seems this is already supported there... (?)

Dec. 4, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Sinatra-like framework?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I know that sven has a restful api on top of zinc. Stef On Dec 2, 2012, at 11:50 PM, Sebastian Nozzi wrote: > Hello, > > before I roll-out my own solution, I thought I should ask: > > Are you aware of a Sinatra-like web-framework for Pharo? > > http://www.sinatrarb.com/ > > Or can Zinc-HTTP do that more or less out-of-the-box? > > Thanks! > > > Sebastian > > P.S. As far as I understood Seaside-REST is not aimed at web-pages. >

Dec. 4, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Sinatra-like framework?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Philippe marshall presented a solution in seaside at ESUG this year. So it is really possible. Stef On Dec 2, 2012, at 11:50 PM, Sebastian Nozzi wrote: > Hello, > > before I roll-out my own solution, I thought I should ask: > > Are you aware of a Sinatra-like web-framework for Pharo? > > http://www.sinatrarb.com/ > > Or can Zinc-HTTP do that more or less out-of-the-box? > > Thanks! > > > Sebastian > > P.S. As far as I understood Seaside-REST is not aimed at web-pages. >

Dec. 4, 2012

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