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Re: [Pharo-users] tuesday we will do a coding sprint here at Santiago

by Sean P. DeNigris

Sean P. DeNigris wrote > > StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote >> I guess starting around 9h30 > Great, I want to play. I'll be online and available via > Skype/phone/IRC/smoke-signals/whatever bright and early (I think that's > 0730 in NY time)... Have you guys started yet? I'm on the pharo IRC channel and can Skype if necessary... -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/tuesday-we-will-do-a-coding-sprint-here-at-Santiago-t… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] tuesday we will do a coding sprint here at Santiago

by Peter H. Meadows

I would. It would be a nice thing for the community to have. (Plus I'm an anarchist so I don't care what the law says. I only care about behaving in an ethical way. But this isn't the list for philosophy :-) But I think porting OQ is beyond my skill level at the moment :( I suppose people who think only MIT code is worth spending time on could port OpenCobalt to Pharo.. that would be nice... On 29 January 2013 07:17, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Jan 29, 2013, at 8:09 AM, Peter H. Meadows < > peter.h.meadows(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > > > But isn't squeak MIT license now? And OpenQwaq uses squeak. So I don't > see why we couldn't in theory port it to Pharo (not that anyone is going to > any time soon; I'm told it would be a lot of work). > > > > But who would invest his life into this is the resulting code base is GPL > and can't server as the foundation > to build my/our/the future? > > Marcus >

Jan. 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] tuesday we will do a coding sprint here at Santiago

by Marcus Denker

On Jan 29, 2013, at 8:09 AM, Peter H. Meadows <peter.h.meadows(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > But isn't squeak MIT license now? And OpenQwaq uses squeak. So I don't see why we couldn't in theory port it to Pharo (not that anyone is going to any time soon; I'm told it would be a lot of work). > But who would invest his life into this is the resulting code base is GPL and can't server as the foundation to build my/our/the future? Marcus

Jan. 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] tuesday we will do a coding sprint here at Santiago

by Peter H. Meadows

But isn't squeak MIT license now? And OpenQwaq uses squeak. So I don't see why we couldn't in theory port it to Pharo (not that anyone is going to any time soon; I'm told it would be a lot of work). But anyway. Wouldn't it be really cool to do virtual Pharo code sprints in OpenCobalt or qwaq ? Has anyone tried OC or OQ for pair programming? On 29 January 2013 06:52, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Jan 29, 2013, at 7:21 AM, "Peter H. Meadows" < > peter.h.meadows(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > > > So? That doesn't mean we can't run it in Pharo, does it? > > > > GPL is very complicated in Smalltalk. As soon as you distribute the image, > the viral part kicks > in. > > It's even a question if this means that the MIT parts then magically have > to be GPL, too > (which they can not). > I think the FSF counts MIT as compatible in the sense that you can > mix code bases without having to make the MIT code GPL, but of course the > more strong > one is the only one that matters when the overall system is distributed > together. > > It is hard to find a reason why anyone would invest into a code base like > that (other than > the company that has the copyright so for them, they can use another > license when distributing). > > Even the FSF uses a less strict license for code that people are supposed > to link to, a Linux > where every program would be forced to be GPL would never have been > successful. > > You can't build a platform like this. > > Marcus > > >

Jan. 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] tuesday we will do a coding sprint here at Santiago

by Marcus Denker

On Jan 29, 2013, at 7:21 AM, "Peter H. Meadows" <peter.h.meadows(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > So? That doesn't mean we can't run it in Pharo, does it? > GPL is very complicated in Smalltalk. As soon as you distribute the image, the viral part kicks in. It's even a question if this means that the MIT parts then magically have to be GPL, too (which they can not). I think the FSF counts MIT as compatible in the sense that you can mix code bases without having to make the MIT code GPL, but of course the more strong one is the only one that matters when the overall system is distributed together. It is hard to find a reason why anyone would invest into a code base like that (other than the company that has the copyright so for them, they can use another license when distributing). Even the FSF uses a less strict license for code that people are supposed to link to, a Linux where every program would be forced to be GPL would never have been successful. You can't build a platform like this. Marcus

Jan. 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] tuesday we will do a coding sprint here at Santiago

by Peter H. Meadows

So? That doesn't mean we can't run it in Pharo, does it? or.. OpenCobalt is MIT.. On 29 January 2013 06:12, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Jan 29, 2013, at 5:40 AM, Peter H. Meadows < > peter.h.meadows(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > > > Maybe we should use OpenQwaq for virtual sprints! (But first we have to > port it to Pharo :-/ > > It's GPL. > > Marcus > > >

Jan. 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] tuesday we will do a coding sprint here at Santiago

by Marcus Denker

On Jan 29, 2013, at 5:40 AM, Peter H. Meadows <peter.h.meadows(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > Maybe we should use OpenQwaq for virtual sprints! (But first we have to port it to Pharo :-/ It's GPL. Marcus

Jan. 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] tuesday we will do a coding sprint here at Santiago

by Peter H. Meadows

Maybe we should use OpenQwaq for virtual sprints! (But first we have to port it to Pharo :-/ ) On 29 January 2013 04:18, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote > > I guess starting around 9h30 > > Great, I want to play. I'll be online and available via > Skype/phone/IRC/smoke-signals/whatever bright and early (I think that's > 0730 > in NY time)... > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/tuesday-we-will-do-a-coding-sprint-here-at-Santiago-t… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Jan. 29, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] tuesday we will do a coding sprint here at Santiago

by Sean P. DeNigris

StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote > I guess starting around 9h30 Great, I want to play. I'll be online and available via Skype/phone/IRC/smoke-signals/whatever bright and early (I think that's 0730 in NY time)... -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/tuesday-we-will-do-a-coding-sprint-here-at-Santiago-t… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 29, 2013

world menu shortcut

by Peter H. Meadows

Is there a keyboard shortcut to open the world menu from anywhere? How about adding a button to the taskbar?

Jan. 29, 2013