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Re: [Pharo-users] does MongoTalk implement modifier operators? e.g. $set

by Yanni Chiu

On 08/03/13 11:26 AM, Sabine KnÃ¶fel wrote: > > Yanni, you wrote > "I used the MongoDB connection directly, and wrote it to use the mongodb > UPDATE operations (because that's how all the mongodb examples did it). " > > Yanni, I understand, that you have some code to perform UPDATE operations > from Smalltalk? Could you please send me some examples? Oops, when I looked back my code, I found that I had started the project using node.js. When I was doing the mongodb UPDATE, that was still being coded in node.js. (I grew frustrated with node.js, and moved back to the comfort of Seaside). Looking at the Mongo code in Pharo, I think you can achieve what you want by calling: MongoCollection>>update: origDictionary with: newDictionary Set up the 'origDictionary' to have key/value pairs for only the identifying key attributes - e.g. {'person-id' -> 'Johan'} Set up the 'newDictionary' to have key/value pairs for only the attributes whose values need to be updated. Warning - I've never tried this, but it looks like it should work.

March 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] does MongoTalk implement modifier operators? e.g. $set

by Sabine KnÃ¶fel

I do currently not save big documents or pictures within the person but I will save things like the name of the view which was clicked each time the user changes to another view. I think saving the whole person data (address, bank data etc) would create much overhead. I also save travel data with receipts, vehicle trips etc. Changing the name of a trip should not lead to saving the whole trip with its vehicle and receipt data....So for me, using update operations would make much sense. And perhaps, later, documents could be added, too. Sorry, I added confusion, I meant: "What are the experiences of bigger projects using MongoTalk - do you always write the whole DOCUMENT? (and not collection)" Yanni, you wrote "I used the MongoDB connection directly, and wrote it to use the mongodb UPDATE operations (because that's how all the mongodb examples did it). " Yanni, I understand, that you have some code to perform UPDATE operations from Smalltalk? Could you please send me some examples? Greetings Sabine -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/does-MongoTalk-implement-modifier-operators-e-g-set-t… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

March 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] does MongoTalk implement modifier operators? e.g. $set

by Yanni Chiu

On 08/03/13 4:41 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > a document is not more than a bunch of dictionaries... of course in certain cases you can optimize, but most of the time you don'y need it. My very small app was almost done, before I came across MongoTalk/Voyage. I used the MongoDB connection directly, and wrote it to use the mongodb UPDATE operations (because that's how all the mongodb examples did it). If I'd started with MongoTalk/Voyage, then I would probably just accept the re-writing of the whole document.

March 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] does MongoTalk implement modifier operators? e.g. $set

by Yanni Chiu

On 08/03/13 2:59 AM, Sabine KnÃ¶fel wrote: > > What are the experiences of bigger projects using MongoTalk - do you always > write the *whole *collection? That was the confusion in the other thread. The whole *Smalltalk* Collection instance holding DateAndTime objects is written out, because the DateAndTime instances are not made separate documents. MongoTalk does not re-write the whole MongeDB collection. However, it currently does write out the full document into each mongo collection. If your objects hold image data (or other large data items), then it can be a problem to re-write the entire attribute set. It may be possible to add something like the Magritte memento framework, to be able to use mongo update operations.

March 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Are all PharoVMs NativeBoost enabled VMs now?

by Esteban Lorenzano

exactly or in other way: all PharoVMs are NBCogVM, but branded :) Esteban On Mar 8, 2013, at 12:35 PM, MartinW <wm(a)fastmail.fm> wrote: > Are all PharoVMs NativeBoost enabled VMs now? So the NBCogVMs are no longer > relevant? > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Are-all-PharoVMs-NativeBoost-enabled-VMs-now-tp467572… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

March 8, 2013

Are all PharoVMs NativeBoost enabled VMs now?

by MartinW

Are all PharoVMs NativeBoost enabled VMs now? So the NBCogVMs are no longer relevant? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Are-all-PharoVMs-NativeBoost-enabled-VMs-now-tp467572… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

March 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] does MongoTalk implement modifier operators? e.g. $set

by Esteban Lorenzano

I have an app who has large documents that are saved each time someone modifies it... since is not a frequent operation, the app performs really well. why would be strange? a document is not more than a bunch of dictionaries... of course in certain cases you can optimize, but most of the time you don'y need it. Esteban On Mar 8, 2013, at 8:59 AM, Sabine KnÃ¶fel <sabine.knoefel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Please have a look at http://docs.mongodb.org/manual/applications/update/ > > "The update() method can either replace the existing document with the new > document* or update specific fields in the existing document.*" > > "Modifier Operators" such as $set, are performed in the context of the > database and not at the client. > > See also here (german): > http://books.google.de/books?id=6wAJLJRxFt8C&pg=PA156&lpg=PA156&dq=%22Modif… > > In this book, the autor writes, that you will go to database hell, if you > always update the whole document instead of single fields. :-) > > What are the experiences of bigger projects using MongoTalk - do you always > write the *whole *collection? What about the performance with this solution? > Is this feasible? It sounds strange to me. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/does-MongoTalk-implement-modifier-operators-e-g-set-t… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

March 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] does MongoTalk implement modifier operators? e.g. $set

by Sabine KnÃ¶fel

Please have a look at http://docs.mongodb.org/manual/applications/update/ "The update() method can either replace the existing document with the new document* or update specific fields in the existing document.*" "Modifier Operators" such as $set, are performed in the context of the database and not at the client. See also here (german): http://books.google.de/books?id=6wAJLJRxFt8C&pg=PA156&lpg=PA156&dq=%22Modif… In this book, the autor writes, that you will go to database hell, if you always update the whole document instead of single fields. :-) What are the experiences of bigger projects using MongoTalk - do you always write the *whole *collection? What about the performance with this solution? Is this feasible? It sounds strange to me. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/does-MongoTalk-implement-modifier-operators-e-g-set-t… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

March 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] does MongoTalk implement modifier operators? e.g. $set

by Yanni Chiu

On 07/03/13 5:51 AM, Sabine KnÃ¶fel wrote: > > So, can anyone give me a code snippet how to use update modifiers in > Mongotalk? Here's a similar question: http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2012-November/071675.h… The link is to the end of the thread. The relevant text is: "that's how the driver works: is document-atomic". So, your Person object is a document, and the MongoDB driver reads/writes each document all at once (i.e. all the Person attributes together). You cannot update a Person attribute individually using a Mongo update, unless you write custom code.

March 7, 2013

does MongoTalk implement modifier operators? e.g. $set

by Sabine KnÃ¶fel

Hi, I managed reading and writing my model (e.g. Person objects) into MongoDB with MongoTalk. But I did use replace:with: e.g. "get person from db with OID - this is a dictionary with ALL OLD fields of the person as stored in the database" thePersonFromDatabaseDict := (self personsCollection queryOne: [ :query | query where: {('_id' -> aPerson mongoObjectId )} asDictionary ]) theNewDict := aPerson mongoDataDict "dictionary with the NEW fields for this person" self personsCollection replace: thePersonFromDatabaseDict with: theNewDict Which means I replace the whole person object in the database with my current instance data in the image. Also it is much overhead creating the dictionary with all fields from the person in the image. This is not ok, when I want to set e.g. one field in the person object. For this reason I want to use the "Modifier operators", e.g. $set http://docs.mongodb.org/manual/applications/update/ >From there: "Update a Field in a Document. Use $set to update a value of a field. The following operation queries the bios collection for the first document that has an _id field equal to 1 and sets the value of the field middle, in the subdocument name, to Warner: db.bios.update( { _id: 1 }, { $set: { 'name.middle': 'Warner' }, } ) *I did not find how to use this in MongoTalk. I can not imagine that this functionality is missing but I don't know how to create this from Mongotalk. Unfortunately there is no documentation and as far as I understand there are no test cases for update modifiers.* So, can anyone give me a code snippet how to use update modifiers in Mongotalk? Sabine -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/does-MongoTalk-implement-modifier-operators-e-g-set-t… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

March 7, 2013