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Re: [Pharo-users] How to deploy a Pharo 2.0 Desktop application?

by S Krish

VisualAge has one wizard that is quite old, but gives the user an ability to dump a folder with an myapp.exe launcher that can be zipped / converted into an installer easily. It goes through nearly all of the steps we talk of. On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 14 March 2013 10:09, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > > Maybe my old description from Squeak times can help here a little bit: > > > > Win32 Custom Product Building http://squeakvm.org/win32/custom.html > > > > You may also be able to use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resource_Hacker > > on an existing VM executable I guess. > > > > There is no service yet to build a custom VM. > > > > Also have a look at ImageLocker-Core-tbn.1.mcz from > http://squeaksource.com/PharoGoodies/ > > > > Also look at > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3714631/adding-stuff-to-run-on-startup-o… > > > > I think in a future we should provide a solution to the topic, without > requiring the developer to > build own VM or install extra software and learn how to use it.. > > > > Bye > > T. > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. > >

March 15, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Unicode in Smalltalk

by Mohammad Al Houssami (Alumni)

Im new to smalltalk so im not sure how you derived the numbers. So if I have 000A as a unicode how do I do the transformation? I donât know how you got 2r10101101 16rA And what are base r and number in <base>r<number> ? Thanks again Mohammad -----Original Message----- From: pharo-users-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Igor Stasenko Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 12:54 PM To: A friendly place where any question about pharo is welcome Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Unicode in Smalltalk On 15 March 2013 13:44, Mohammad Al Houssami (Alumni) <mha53(a)mail.aub.edu> wrote: > Im not sure where you got the 16r0026 from. What I have is something > like this > U+0009 CHARACTER TABULATION (tab) > U+000A LINE FEED (LF) > U+000C FORM FEED (FF) > U+0020 SPACE > > Whats on the left is the unicode representation. In some cases there > is no actual character to compare to( so I cant compare to < > &....) What I will have to do is to create a character with unicode value U+000A. > I have tried myCharacter:= 000A asCharacter. But it doesn't work. > > When I try to print myCharacter it gives an error because it doesn't understand the A. > because 000A is not valid literal in smalltalk. it is actually understood by compiler as unary message: 0 A if you want to use hexadecimal integer litrals, you should use radix notation: <base>r<number> try: 2r10101101 16rA > Thanks > Mohammad -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

March 15, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] How to deploy a Pharo 2.0 Desktop application?

by Esteban Lorenzano

On Mar 15, 2013, at 11:25 AM, MartinW <wm(a)fastmail.fm> wrote: > Thank you all for the answers. I will sum up where i am now: > > > - How to properly start up and shut down my application when the Pharo image > starts and shuts down? > > Ok, problem solved via > Smalltalk addToStartUpList: and > Smalltalk addToShutDownList: > > > - Can i give the Pharo window a custom size and make it non-resizable? > > Halfway solved. DisplayScreen class>>#hostWindowSize: works well. > Would be really nice if it was possible to make the window unresizable from > within the image. It would also be nice to control the initial position of > the Pharo Window on the HostOS screen. the problem is that container window is created before launching pharo. Using the ObjectiveCBridge (or the upcoming NB-ObjC) you could change the main Window properties in mac, and you could do something similar in win... but is not so easy in every case... If my dreams of decouple the UI from the VM (and mamage the display initialization through the image) become true, that could be better managed, but so far, we don't have easy answers, sorry :) > > I can see many One-Window-Desktop-Applications that could be done with Pharo > if one had more control over the one Pharo window. > > Can i still submit entries to GoogleIssueTracker or do i have to wait for a > public accessible FogBugs site? you can still report in the issue tracker and issue will be automatically migrated. Also you can wait a bit :) > > > - How to hide development tools, world menu, global keyboard shortcuts, > etc.? > > The suggestion to work with the keychain worked best so far - where can i > get more information on the keychain? Also there are some bugs. just report to the pharo-dev list. keychain is complicated and the UI is not the best, but mainly works :P > > > - How to make a nice One-Click-Application, that preferably should have the > name and icon of the application and not be called Pharo (not because i do > not love Pharo, but because people won't understand :) > > I work on a Mac, so i guess i cannot easily build a Windows VM on MacOS? > Anyway this would be too much work for the application in question. But it > might be interesing for future projects. > > > - How to automate all the above tasks, so i can easily build a new > One-Click-Application again and again. > > Ok, i can adapt the One-Click scripts. > > > - What do i state as system requirements? "You need at least Windows XYZ or > MacOS 10.X to run this application" > > My question was just, "What are the System requirements for the PharoVM?" - > because this will be also the system requirements for my application. Does > anybody know? Win 3.1 or newer OSX 10.6 or newer :) Esteban > > Martin. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-to-deploy-a-Pharo-2-0-Desktop-application-tp46766… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

March 15, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Unicode in Smalltalk

by Igor Stasenko

On 15 March 2013 13:44, Mohammad Al Houssami (Alumni) <mha53(a)mail.aub.edu> wrote: > Im not sure where you got the 16r0026 from. What I have is something like this > U+0009 CHARACTER TABULATION (tab) > U+000A LINE FEED (LF) > U+000C FORM FEED (FF) > U+0020 SPACE > > Whats on the left is the unicode representation. In some cases there is no actual character to compare to( so I cant compare to < > &....) > What I will have to do is to create a character with unicode value U+000A. > I have tried myCharacter:= 000A asCharacter. But it doesn't work. > > When I try to print myCharacter it gives an error because it doesn't understand the A. > because 000A is not valid literal in smalltalk. it is actually understood by compiler as unary message: 0 A if you want to use hexadecimal integer litrals, you should use radix notation: <base>r<number> try: 2r10101101 16rA > Thanks > Mohammad -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

March 15, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Unicode in Smalltalk

by Mohammad Al Houssami (Alumni)

Im not sure where you got the 16r0026 from. What I have is something like this U+0009 CHARACTER TABULATION (tab) U+000A LINE FEED (LF) U+000C FORM FEED (FF) U+0020 SPACE Whats on the left is the unicode representation. In some cases there is no actual character to compare to( so I cant compare to < > &....) What I will have to do is to create a character with unicode value U+000A. I have tried myCharacter:= 000A asCharacter. But it doesn't work. When I try to print myCharacter it gives an error because it doesn't understand the A. Thanks Mohammad -----Original Message----- From: pharo-users-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Esteban A. Maringolo Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 12:28 AM To: pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Unicode in Smalltalk I'm not sure if I understand your question. But did you try this? : yourCharacter = 16r0026 asCharacter Regards. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Unicode-in-Smalltalk-tp4676821p4676871.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

March 15, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] How to deploy a Pharo 2.0 Desktop application?

by MartinW

Thank you all for the answers. I will sum up where i am now: - How to properly start up and shut down my application when the Pharo image starts and shuts down? Ok, problem solved via Smalltalk addToStartUpList: and Smalltalk addToShutDownList: - Can i give the Pharo window a custom size and make it non-resizable? Halfway solved. DisplayScreen class>>#hostWindowSize: works well. Would be really nice if it was possible to make the window unresizable from within the image. It would also be nice to control the initial position of the Pharo Window on the HostOS screen. I can see many One-Window-Desktop-Applications that could be done with Pharo if one had more control over the one Pharo window. Can i still submit entries to GoogleIssueTracker or do i have to wait for a public accessible FogBugs site? - How to hide development tools, world menu, global keyboard shortcuts, etc.? The suggestion to work with the keychain worked best so far - where can i get more information on the keychain? Also there are some bugs. - How to make a nice One-Click-Application, that preferably should have the name and icon of the application and not be called Pharo (not because i do not love Pharo, but because people won't understand :) I work on a Mac, so i guess i cannot easily build a Windows VM on MacOS? Anyway this would be too much work for the application in question. But it might be interesing for future projects. - How to automate all the above tasks, so i can easily build a new One-Click-Application again and again. Ok, i can adapt the One-Click scripts. - What do i state as system requirements? "You need at least Windows XYZ or MacOS 10.X to run this application" My question was just, "What are the System requirements for the PharoVM?" - because this will be also the system requirements for my application. Does anybody know? Martin. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-to-deploy-a-Pharo-2-0-Desktop-application-tp46766… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

March 15, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Changing mouse position from Pharo.

by phil＠highoctane.be

Compared to your speed, I am an anemic snail Stef. Still, I am very interested in that area of which you showed me interesting internals. Curious about the double dispatch you want to do there. Tell me. Phil 2013/3/15 stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr>: > > On Mar 14, 2013, at 7:29 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > >> About basic events, well Apple has internal events and the UIEvents. >> The internal events are basic and the UIEvents are user friendly an >> dppl can do double dispatch on them. These are two levels: one for the >> frameworks, and one for dealing with the low level. >> >> Anyway, I'd say a proper TextEditorMorph would be a priority over any >> event handling codeâ¦ > > Alain will start to work on it and Athens will be pushed in 3.0 soon. > Now I work on what I can and learn slowly. > > Stef >

March 15, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Changing mouse position from Pharo.

by stephane ducasse

On Mar 15, 2013, at 8:40 AM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: > So add a bug entry for 3.0 I did it :) > > Stef > >>> There is device giving some values at the hardware level. >>> Those things should of course be controllable from within the image. >>> Are we going to let the hardware tell us what we can and cannot do? To >>> hell with that :-p >>> >> >> a simplest solution would be to add a primitive to VM, so you can set >> the mouse cursor position.. >> I also find it strange that VM provides interface for changing the >> cursor image/hide it.. but not setting its position. >> See Cursor class. >

March 15, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Changing mouse position from Pharo.

by stephane ducasse

So add a bug entry for 3.0 Stef >> There is device giving some values at the hardware level. >> Those things should of course be controllable from within the image. >> Are we going to let the hardware tell us what we can and cannot do? To >> hell with that :-p >> > > a simplest solution would be to add a primitive to VM, so you can set > the mouse cursor position.. > I also find it strange that VM provides interface for changing the > cursor image/hide it.. but not setting its position. > See Cursor class.

March 15, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Changing mouse position from Pharo.

by stephane ducasse

On Mar 14, 2013, at 7:29 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > About basic events, well Apple has internal events and the UIEvents. > The internal events are basic and the UIEvents are user friendly an > dppl can do double dispatch on them. These are two levels: one for the > frameworks, and one for dealing with the low level. > > Anyway, I'd say a proper TextEditorMorph would be a priority over any > event handling codeâ¦ Alain will start to work on it and Athens will be pushed in 3.0 soon. Now I work on what I can and learn slowly. Stef

March 15, 2013