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Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] SLOC in Smalltalk

by Tudor Girba

Perhaps you could give Moose a try :). For a quick experiment: 1. Download https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/moose-latest-dev-4.8/lastSuccessfulBuild/arti… 2. Execute ((MoosePharoImporterTask new addClasses: {Morph}; run) allModelClasses entityNamed: #'Smalltalk::Morph') openInMoose 3. Look in the second tab Cheers, Doru On Apr 7, 2013, at 11:01 PM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Marcus, > > Thanks for the information. I couldn't answer before because of the flooding in my city[*]. > > Can you recommend a package for more advanced metrics? > Cheers, > > > [*] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-22023196 > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-22019841 > > El 02/04/2013 11:01, Marcus Denker escribiÃ³: >> >> On Apr 2, 2013, at 4:54 AM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Janko. Thanks for your useful package. >>> >>> Apparently there is some issue with #linesOfCode. The dummy expression below return 5 instead of 4 in Pharo 1.4 and 2 because is counting the autogenerated 'DoIt' selector. >>> >>> (UndefinedObject evaluatorClass new >>> compileNoPattern: '| oc | >>> oc := OrderedCollection new: 20. >>> oc add: 1. >>> oc size' >>> in: UndefinedObject >>> context: nil >>> notifying: nil >>> ifFail: []) generate linesOfCode >> >> Hello, >> >> I do not think that this is wrong. The doit *does* contain a selector. if #linesOfCode would contain a special >> case for doits, it would be inconsistent. >> >> E.g. print this: >> >> thisContext method sourceCode >> >> --> >> >> 'DoIt >> ^ thisContext method sourceCode' >> >> There is a Doit. There is even a return in the that is generatedâ¦ and the doit is actually pretty-printed: >> >> >> >> thisContext >> method >> linesOfCode >> >> --> 2 >> >> So in short: dots are special, there is no need to change #linesOfCode, as there is no thinkable change >> that would make any sense. >> >> In general, LOC as a metric is not that good. It is better than nothing, but it makes more sense to count >> e.g. message sends or use more advanced metrics on the AST (not every statement adds the same >> to complexity, e.g. conditionals versus simple statements). >> >> >> Marcus >> > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier."

April 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Need help with dynamically finding packages/categories on pharo

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Perhaps you could also take a look at Moose and the included engines such as Glamour and Roassal. You can download an image from here: https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/moose-latest-dev-4.8/lastSuccessfulBuild/arti… Cheers, Doru On Apr 8, 2013, at 12:48 AM, ashwinshankar77 <ashwinshankar77(a)gmail.com> wrote: > We are using Morphic for visualization and MCWorkingCopy and few other > classes to get > package related information. We just started off,so we have not completely > figured out what things to use. > Sure,I'll let the others know about using Pharo2. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Need-help-with-dynamically-finding-packages-categorie… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier."

April 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Need help with dynamically finding packages/categories on pharo

by ashwinshankar77

We are using Morphic for visualization and MCWorkingCopy and few other classes to get package related information. We just started off,so we have not completely figured out what things to use. Sure,I'll let the others know about using Pharo2. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Need-help-with-dynamically-finding-packages-categorie… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Need help with dynamically finding packages/categories on pharo

by ashwinshankar77

Thank you,this helped :) -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Need-help-with-dynamically-finding-packages-categorie… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Need help with dynamically finding packages/categories on pharo

by ashwinshankar77

Thanks ! -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Need-help-with-dynamically-finding-packages-categorie… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] SLOC in Smalltalk

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Hi Marcus, Thanks for the information. I couldn't answer before because of the flooding in my city[*]. Can you recommend a package for more advanced metrics? Cheers, [*] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-22023196 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-22019841 El 02/04/2013 11:01, Marcus Denker escribiÃ³: > > On Apr 2, 2013, at 4:54 AM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Janko. Thanks for your useful package. >> >> Apparently there is some issue with #linesOfCode. The dummy expression below return 5 instead of 4 in Pharo 1.4 and 2 because is counting the autogenerated 'DoIt' selector. >> >> (UndefinedObject evaluatorClass new >> compileNoPattern: '| oc | >> oc := OrderedCollection new: 20. >> oc add: 1. >> oc size' >> in: UndefinedObject >> context: nil >> notifying: nil >> ifFail: []) generate linesOfCode > > Hello, > > I do not think that this is wrong. The doit *does* contain a selector. if #linesOfCode would contain a special > case for doits, it would be inconsistent. > > E.g. print this: > > thisContext method sourceCode > > --> > > 'DoIt > ^ thisContext method sourceCode' > > There is a Doit. There is even a return in the that is generatedâ¦ and the doit is actually pretty-printed: > > > > thisContext > method > linesOfCode > > --> 2 > > So in short: dots are special, there is no need to change #linesOfCode, as there is no thinkable change > that would make any sense. > > In general, LOC as a metric is not that good. It is better than nothing, but it makes more sense to count > e.g. message sends or use more advanced metrics on the AST (not every statement adds the same > to complexity, e.g. conditionals versus simple statements). > > > Marcus >

April 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo VM packages and PPA for Ubuntu

by stephane ducasse

Thanks for your effort! We should blog it :) Stef On Apr 7, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Pharo and Ubuntu users, > > Nicolas Petton and I are proud to announce Ubuntu packages for the > Pharo VM. Installing the pharo vm is now just a matter of: > > sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cassou/pharo > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get install pharo-vm > > With this package, you get: > > - the latest pharo vm as a 'pharo' binary in the PATH > - all plugins and libraries (native boost, freetype, ssl, ...) > - file association so you can just double-click on pharo images > - pharo icons visible everywhere (on image files, on ALT+TAB...) > - PharoV10.sources and PharoV20.sources > > Please fill bug reports on https://pharo.fogbugz.com. > > This package is currently only available for Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal. > Fill a bug report if you want me to package it for another version of > Ubuntu. > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." > Winston Churchill >

April 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo VM packages and PPA for Ubuntu

by Norbert Hartl

That's great! I think providing packages for LTS versions of ubuntu would be good. Norbert Am 07.04.2013 um 21:12 schrieb Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>: > Dear Pharo and Ubuntu users, > > Nicolas Petton and I are proud to announce Ubuntu packages for the > Pharo VM. Installing the pharo vm is now just a matter of: > > sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cassou/pharo > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get install pharo-vm > > With this package, you get: > > - the latest pharo vm as a 'pharo' binary in the PATH > - all plugins and libraries (native boost, freetype, ssl, ...) > - file association so you can just double-click on pharo images > - pharo icons visible everywhere (on image files, on ALT+TAB...) > - PharoV10.sources and PharoV20.sources > > Please fill bug reports on https://pharo.fogbugz.com. > > This package is currently only available for Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal. > Fill a bug report if you want me to package it for another version of > Ubuntu. > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." > Winston Churchill >

April 7, 2013

[ANN] Pharo VM packages and PPA for Ubuntu

by Damien Cassou

Dear Pharo and Ubuntu users, Nicolas Petton and I are proud to announce Ubuntu packages for the Pharo VM. Installing the pharo vm is now just a matter of: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cassou/pharo sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install pharo-vm With this package, you get: - the latest pharo vm as a 'pharo' binary in the PATH - all plugins and libraries (native boost, freetype, ssl, ...) - file association so you can just double-click on pharo images - pharo icons visible everywhere (on image files, on ALT+TAB...) - PharoV10.sources and PharoV20.sources Please fill bug reports on https://pharo.fogbugz.com. This package is currently only available for Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal. Fill a bug report if you want me to package it for another version of Ubuntu. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

April 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] in anybody out there? who uses 2.0?

by stephane ducasse

I think that you should publish the change for DBX in the DBX repo and the metaRepoForPharo20. Stef On Apr 7, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Milan Mimica <milan.mimica(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The only configuration I changed was ConfigurationOfGlorpDBX, it was trivial, just to make it load. I added > spec for: #'pharo2.x' version: '2.5'. > to ConfigurationOfGlorpDBX >> stable: > Some tests failed, but AFAIR, they also failed on 1.4. > > Other changes include fixing Seaside's WAImageStatus, which was also trivial but has been broken for ages. Not sure how to push these changes, especially because these are only for Pharo2.0. > > > > > On 7 April 2013 11:47, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > this really cool, thanks! > > btw... if you needed to update configurations... could you commit the new configurations to the repository for Pharo2.0? > > thanks, > Esteban > > On Apr 7, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Milan Mimica <milan.mimica(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 27 March 2013 15:24, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Here in Pharo headquarters we are shock that there are just 10 new bugs reported for 2.0 after the release... >> So... I wonder... is that because we made a really cool release, or just because nobody is using it? >> >> I know you must be starving for feedback on Pharo 2.0, so here is mine. >> >> I ported my app to it, from Pharo 1.4. The app uses Glorp, Seaside, RFB and HPDF, so it took me an afternoon. >> The overall impression is great. Unlike 1.4, it didn't crash a single time. Another great thing is that you didn't make that many backward incompatible changes as I though you would. Of course, I had to patch almost all of the above (their dependencies include FFI, OpenDBX etc.) and rewrite some little bits of my code, but it was worth it. The new FS classes are must better. >> From user's point of view there is no much difference to 1.4, which is a good thing. I know you revamped things internally. >> >> Keep the good work, and I hope I will be able to provide you with feedback from real production environment soon. >> >> >> -- >> Milan Mimica >> http://sparklet.sf.net > > > > > -- > Milan Mimica > http://sparklet.sf.net

April 7, 2013