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Re: [Pharo-users] the future of squeaksource

by Andrei Vasile Chis

We can add a search based on project names. Also I'd like to create a virtual machine and move an instance of the SqueakSource image there. This way if in the future people will want to access any meta-information they could download the virtual machine and get a running SqueakSource. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com>wrote: > 2013/5/7 Andrei Vasile Chis <chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com> > >> I don't really think so. Read-only mode is perfect, you only waste time to >>> relaunch squeaksource when it crashes :) >>> >> >> We were thinking at something more dramatic, like killing the image and >> putting all the public >> licensed projects on some ftp (or something similar). >> > > If you go such way it will be impossible to find old projects by > description and wiki page contents. Squeaksource have search. > > >> Lately the image has become more unstable then usual. From time to time >> it just hangs and keeps that processor of >> the server at 100% >> >> > >

May 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] the future of squeaksource

by Andrei Vasile Chis

Thanks. I will add this script to the front page of SqueakSource. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>wrote: > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Hilaire Fernandes > <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > A small note or link in Squeaksource how to migrate to smaltalkhub will > > be helpful. > > > I agree. Something like that would make sense for people who want to > get an exact copy of their project: > > | source goSource destination goDestination files destinationFiles | > > source := MCHttpRepository location: ' > http://www.squeaksource.com/YOURPROJECT'. > destination := MCSmalltalkhubRepository owner: 'YOURNAME' project: > 'YOURPROJECT' user: 'YOURNAME' password: 'YOURPASSWORD'. > > goSource := Gofer new repository: source. > goDestination := Gofer new repository: destination. > > files := source allVersionNames. > > (goSource allResolved select: [ :resolved | files anySatisfy: [ :each > | resolved name = each ] ]) do: [ :each | goSource package: each > packageName ]. > > goSource fetch. "downloads all mcz on your computer" > > destinationFiles := destination allVersionNames. "checks what files > are already at destination" > files reject: [ :file | destinationFiles includes: file ] thenDo: [ > :file | goDestination version: file ]. "selects only the mcz that are > not yet at destination" > > goDestination push. "sends everything to SmalltalkHub" > > self assert: destination allVersionNames sorted = files sorted. > "checks we have exactly the same files at source and destination" > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." > Winston Churchill > >

May 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] the future of squeaksource

by Andrei Vasile Chis

We were thinking of keeping the current image alive for one or two more months. Then replace it with just a simple view of the file system. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:50 AM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr>wrote: > > On May 7, 2013, at 5:19 PM, Andrei Vasile Chis <chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Given that SmalltalkHub is now stable we were considering to discontinue > SqueakSource. > > Our idea is to provide a grace period of a couple of months to allow the > current active users to migrate their projects to the new service and then > simply put squeaksource in read-only mode (simply exposing the directory > structure and allowing downloads). > > > > What do you think about it ? > > Are there any good reasons to still keep SqueakSource alive? > > Keep it alive so that we can slowly migrate. Because migrating takes a lot > of time. > > > > > > > Cheers, > > The SCG Team > > >

May 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] the future of squeaksource

by Damien Cassou

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > A small note or link in Squeaksource how to migrate to smaltalkhub will > be helpful. I agree. Something like that would make sense for people who want to get an exact copy of their project: | source goSource destination goDestination files destinationFiles | source := MCHttpRepository location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/YOURPROJECT'. destination := MCSmalltalkhubRepository owner: 'YOURNAME' project: 'YOURPROJECT' user: 'YOURNAME' password: 'YOURPASSWORD'. goSource := Gofer new repository: source. goDestination := Gofer new repository: destination. files := source allVersionNames. (goSource allResolved select: [ :resolved | files anySatisfy: [ :each | resolved name = each ] ]) do: [ :each | goSource package: each packageName ]. goSource fetch. "downloads all mcz on your computer" destinationFiles := destination allVersionNames. "checks what files are already at destination" files reject: [ :file | destinationFiles includes: file ] thenDo: [ :file | goDestination version: file ]. "selects only the mcz that are not yet at destination" goDestination push. "sends everything to SmalltalkHub" self assert: destination allVersionNames sorted = files sorted. "checks we have exactly the same files at source and destination" -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

May 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] the future of squeaksource

by Hilaire Fernandes

A small note or link in Squeaksource how to migrate to smaltalkhub will be helpful. Thanks Hilaire Le 07/05/2013 17:19, Andrei Vasile Chis a Ã©crit : > Hi all, > > Given that SmalltalkHub is now stable we were considering to discontinue > SqueakSource. > Our idea is to provide a grace period of a couple of months to allow the > current active users to migrate their projects to the new service and > then simply put squeaksource in read-only mode (simply exposing the > directory structure and allowing downloads). > > What do you think about it ? > Are there any good reasons to still keep SqueakSource alive? > > Cheers, > The SCG Team -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

May 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] the future of squeaksource

by Denis Kudriashov

2013/5/7 Andrei Vasile Chis <chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com> > I don't really think so. Read-only mode is perfect, you only waste time to >> relaunch squeaksource when it crashes :) >> > > We were thinking at something more dramatic, like killing the image and > putting all the public > licensed projects on some ftp (or something similar). > If you go such way it will be impossible to find old projects by description and wiki page contents. Squeaksource have search. > Lately the image has become more unstable then usual. From time to time > it just hangs and keeps that processor of > the server at 100% > >

May 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] the future of squeaksource

by stephane ducasse

On May 7, 2013, at 9:15 PM, Andrei Vasile Chis <chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I don't really think so. Read-only mode is perfect, you only waste time to > relaunch squeaksource when it crashes :) > > We were thinking at something more dramatic, like killing the image and putting all the public > licensed projects on some ftp (or something similar). Yes on a ftp would be really good. Stef > Lately the image has become more unstable then usual. From time to time it just hangs and keeps that processor of > the server at 100% >

May 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] the future of squeaksource

by stephane ducasse

On May 7, 2013, at 5:19 PM, Andrei Vasile Chis <chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > Given that SmalltalkHub is now stable we were considering to discontinue SqueakSource. > Our idea is to provide a grace period of a couple of months to allow the current active users to migrate their projects to the new service and then simply put squeaksource in read-only mode (simply exposing the directory structure and allowing downloads). > > What do you think about it ? > Are there any good reasons to still keep SqueakSource alive? Keep it alive so that we can slowly migrate. Because migrating takes a lot of time. > > Cheers, > The SCG Team

May 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] the future of squeaksource

by Johan Fabry

On May 7, 2013, at 5:40 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > If the file system view stays available via squeaksource.com, people can do > this lazily as needed. > > And having the files available via http should be easy to just keep foreverâ¦ > Disk space is cheap. +1 on that. You only need a plain web server to serve static files, that's what the mirror is doing. (I'll probably close the mirror down though as there seems to be little used now) ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

May 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] the future of squeaksource

by Marcus Denker

On May 7, 2013, at 11:21 PM, Paul DeBruicker <pdebruic(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I think it would be helpful to have those public open source licensed > projects that are not yet loaded on ss3 or smalltalk hub copied there > for posterity. Maybe make a squeaksource archive account on each > platform that does the copying. > If the file system view stays available via squeaksource.com, people can do this lazily as needed. And having the files available via http should be easy to just keep foreverâ¦ Disk space is cheap. Marcus

May 7, 2013