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[Pharo-dev] Label truncation in new Pharo 8.0 64-bit (stable)

by Shaping

(Third try.) Can someone answer the questions below the screenshot showing the truncated labels? They are repeated here: 1) Can anyone suggest a fix (a code fix) for the truncated labels shown below in the screenshot of the Setting window? This happens in the Git client too? It happens when a fixed-width font is chosen as the default font. This is a design flaw in the GUIs. Cycling Settings (or any other Windows showing the same truncated-labels problem) isnât a fix, even if the window renders correctly the second time. The damaged area of the window is still not being invalidated correctly and then redrawn, or it is, and then is partially overdraw by the data fields to the right of the labels. Changing the font to any fixed-width font causes this problem, even without changing the default font size (10). You can see this by expanding all nodes in Settings, and paging down through them. The longest labels will be incompletely rendered. A possible solution is to use a 2-column layout, where the left column displays right-justified labels and the right one displays the matching left-justified data, checkbox, dropdown, etc. The left label-column could be auto-sized on opening after the longest labelâs size is determined. I mention this problem many months ago, in the midst of another failed port from VW, and presented the same screenshots. Stef made some comments about how this should not be happening, and seemed to be unhappy with the situation. I thought therefore that there would be some resolve to fix the issue broadly throughout the dev environ, but I donât know what came of that. I figured the fix was waiting for Spec2, which is now here. Is there a Spec2 expert here who can suggest how to use the new framework to fix the problem? 2) Will all Pharo tools be rewritten in Spec2, and does its formatting scheme solve the label-formatting problem, as font size is changed? 3) Why donât we opt for easy elastic/zoomable GUIs by implementing Pharo as a web app? Has this been discussed? Willow is looking very good. Is rendering speed still a problem for a complex web GUI served by localhost? For the localhost case, the speed difference seems to be approaching 0. Shaping From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of shaping(a)uurda.org Sent: Sunday, 19 April, 2020 09:32 To: Pharo Development List <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org>; pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] FW: Label truncation in new Pharo 8.0 64-bit (stable) On 2020-04-19 03:01, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: Works for me (this font is larger than the default one). macOS, Pharo 9 64bit The screenshot below is taken on Windows 10 Pro. This time I did not change the theme. I did also update the fonts listed in the dialog before choosing FiraCode. The labels are still truncated. This is another new Pharo 8 64-bit (stable) with only the font changed. Why would formatting not work on Windows 10? Can any Windows 10 Pharo users verify this problem? On 19 Apr 2020, at 06:05, Shaping <shaping(a)uurda.org <mailto:shaping@uurda.org> > wrote: Can anyone suggest a fix for the truncated labels shown below in the screenshot of the Setting window? This happens in the Git client too. Will Pharo tools be rewritten in Spec2, and does its formatting scheme solve generally the text-formatting problem, as font size is changed? Why donât we opt for easy elastic rendering of GUIs by implementing Pharo as a web app? Has this been discussed? Willow is looking very good. Shaping From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org> ] On Behalf Of Shaping Sent: Saturday, 18 April, 2020 04:16 To: 'Any question about pharo is welcome' <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> >; 'Pharo Development List' <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> > Subject: [Pharo-users] Label truncation in new Pharo 8.0 64-bit (stable) Hi everyone. Below is a Pharo 8.0 64-bit (stable) image (installed with the new Launcher 2.0) with two changes: -Light theme selected. -FiraCode 11 chosen as the default font. <image001.png> Truncated labels in the GUI on font change has always been a problem. Am I the only one experiencing this? Shaping From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org> ] On Behalf Of Sanjay Minni Sent: Friday, 17 April, 2020 11:05 To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] issues in setting up a new project on Github/Iceberg Thanks tried just https and this worked too I suppose once cloned it does not really matter whether it was done using "clone from github.com" or "clone remote repository" --- Sanjay Minni +91-9900-902902 On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 at 19:43, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com <mailto:guillermopolito@gmail.com> > wrote: Hi, El 17 abr 2020, a las 15:30, Sanjay Minni <sm(a)planage.com <mailto:sm@planage.com> > escribiÃ³: Hi Guillermo, Ok then given your comments - right now got it working as such - initially created as private in Github - changed to public - created clone from github - (did a repair repository (dont know why) and created "src" and designated it as source folder) - did a commit and push - changed repository back to private seems to work can you give an example on how the "Remote URL" field is to be filled up - note its not taking HTTP as i am not sure about the syntax, assume SSH, Github, MyName, MyRepository, will try that as well you should be able to use the URLs provided by the clone buttons in Github/gitlab/bitbucket, both https and ssh. <image004.png> note Just for Info to other users: I am using Windows 10, it seems to have SSH tools inbuilt and was able to use ssh (with passphrase) without hiccup, by putting my key files path in pharo setting-> ...-> use custom SSH keys, and uploading the .pub key in Github :) Thanks --- Sanjay Minni +91-9900-902902 On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 at 18:36, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com <mailto:guillermopolito@gmail.com> > wrote: Hi Sanjay, This is a bug in Iceberg github integration that tries to access the repository to get metadata using Github REST API using anonymous access apparently. And since your project is private, this fails. As a workaroung, I suggest you to clone using the last option that requires an url only: <PastedGraphic-3.png> This option will not use the Github API, so you should find no problems. Iâm planning doing an Iceberg sprint and fix many issues in the coming weeks. (Also if somebody wants to join, this is an open call :)) Guille El 17 abr 2020, a las 12:49, Sanjay Minni <sm(a)planage.com <mailto:sm@planage.com> > escribiÃ³: Using Pharo 8 64 bit on Windows 10 I am trying to setup a new project on Github using Iceberg following the document "Manage your code with Iceberg dtd 25 March 2019) After creating the project in github when I try to clone from Github as (I am at doc item1.4) The system throws an error and the project does not appear in iceberg although the files are downloaded. This happen in both cases whether I use HTTP or SSH What is going wrong ? also: assuming the clone is made, as per next item in doc 1.5, the directory "src" is created after the clone is made. is that correct ?... then how will the packages sources be mapped to ..\src <http://forum.world.st/file/t368721/1-GettingFirstEmptyProjFromGit.jpg> <http://forum.world.st/file/t368721/0-GithubProjectCreation.jpg> ----- cheers, Sanjay -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

April 21, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Launcher 2.0 released!

by TomaÅ¾ Turk

> I think I found the reason - new meta-inf.ston files include absolute paths to image and VM, and those are different on my machines. I'm putting them on the same path. Unfortunately, having images on the same path doesn't help. It helps if you delete meta-inf file after copying. I opened the issue. Many thanks and best wishes, Tomaz

April 20, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] Rosetta Code

by tbrunz

I am also very interested in your zip file! Thank you for offering. -t -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

April 20, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Launcher 2.0 released!

by TomaÅ¾ Turk

Hi Christophe, > If it worked with previous version, there is no reason it should not work with the current Pharo Launcher version. I think I found the reason - new meta-inf.ston files include absolute paths to image and VM, and those are different on my machines. I'm putting them on the same path. Thanks and best wishes, Tomaz

April 20, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Launcher 2.0 released!

by Christophe Demarey

Hi CÃ©drick, > Le 18 avr. 2020 Ã 10:09, CÃ©drick BÃ©ler <cdrick65(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > > Great Job. It looks indeed nicer. > > I found the docs great too (https://pharo-project.github.io/pharo-launcher <https://pharo-project.github.io/pharo-launcher>). > > One suggestion would be to add the help contextually. I tried to look at. There is description of commands and SpLinkPresenter but donât think itâs easy to add. I wanted to add the ling in the help description. Indeed, good idea. Unfortunately, Spec2 does not yet allow to mix text and links. Probably a new presenter would be needed to support this scenario. Also, it depends on what is doable with the gtk backend. Esteban? Cheers, Christophe > > For instance, the one to create an image for template: > WebBrowser openOn: 'https://pharo-project.github.io/pharo-launcher/create-images/â <https://pharo-project.github.io/pharo-launcher/create-images/%E2%80%98> > > Any way of doing that ? > > <GraphiqueCollÃ©-7.png> > > Cheers, > > CÃ©drick > > > >> Le 17 avr. 2020 Ã 18:08, Christophe Demarey <christophe.demarey(a)inria.fr <mailto:christophe.demarey@inria.fr>> a Ã©crit : >> >> Hi all, >> >> Pharo Launcher 2.0 has just been released! It is available from http://pharo.org/download <http://pharo.org/download>. >> >> This new version introduces major changes: >> The UI has been fully rewritten using the new Spec2 framework <https://github.com/pharo-spec/Spec> and the Commander2 library <https://github.com/pharo-spec/Commander2>. UI has been revamped to increase usability, especially for newcomers. The main window is now composed of a toolbar and the list of images. The template list is now available when clicking on the new image button. >> Documentation web site : All Pharo Launcher features are now explained in the new documentation available at https://pharo-project.github.io/pharo-launcher <https://pharo-project.github.io/pharo-launcher>. You can contribute easily by clicking the *edit on GitHub* button. >> You can now have many launch configurations for an image (VM to use, vm and image arguments). It means you can use headless Pharo VM from Pharo Launcher. >> When creating a new image, you can specify an initialisation script that will be run once at the first image launch. It is useful to load your project code in a stock Pharo image for example. See https://pharo-project.github.io/pharo-launcher/create-images/#image-initial… <https://pharo-project.github.io/pharo-launcher/create-images/#image-initial…> >> You can now define your own template sources in addition to official sources (see https://pharo-project.github.io/pharo-launcher/templates/#create-your-own-l… <https://pharo-project.github.io/pharo-launcher/templates/#create-your-own-l…>), including authenticated sources. >> Improved image metadata. Pharo Launcher now manages all image metadata in a single STON file (including description, Pharo version). >> >> Big thanks to all contributors, including issue reports. It is also the opportunity to thanks Damien Cassou, the original author of Pharo Launcher. >> >> Here is the changelog: >> Pharo Launcher v2.0 <https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-launcher/releases/tag/2.0> >> >> The list of closed issue is too long (68) to be listed but you can browse it here: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-launcher/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Acl… <https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-launcher/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Acl…> >> Here are some highlights: >> New features: >> >> Documentation web site >> Image initialisation script >> Launch configurations, headless VM support >> User template file in addition to the official template file >> Jenkins server template now support pipeline projects >> Support of private Jenkins server >> Support of authenticated HTTP server >> Improvements: >> >> Monitoring of image launch failures to give back the error message (if any) >> Newly created image is automatically selected in the image list >> Allow to set image description at creation time >> Better error management (you will have the choice to ignore them or debug them) >> Add a poor version column in image list >> Speedup (especially when image repository has a lot of images) >> >> Bug fixes: >> >> Fix use of system unzip on Windows >> >> Regards, >> The Pharo team. >

April 20, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Launcher 2.0 released!

by Christophe Demarey

Hi Tomaz, > Le 19 avr. 2020 Ã 19:36, TomaÅ¾ Turk <tomaz.turk(a)ef.uni-lj.si> a Ã©crit : > > Congratulations on the new launcher! The experience is far better than with the previous version, nice work! thanks. > I noticed something peculiar - I have two computers and am syncing the folders structure between them. If I create a new Pharo 8.0 image, work on it on this machine and finish, then it gets copied to the second machine. PharoLouncher on this second machine sees the image, however nothing happens if I lounch it. This happens also vice-versa with a new image on the second machine and its copy on the first. > > Both machines share the locations of > - template source files > - image inicialization scripts > - images > - VMs > > This happens on Windows 10. This kind of setup worked with previous version of launcher. If it worked with previous version, there is no reason it should not work with the current Pharo Launcher version. Please, could you open an issue on https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-launcher/issues ? If you can join the content of both metadata files of an image created on each computer with the same origin template (ex: pharo 8). Regards, Christophe

April 20, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] FW: Label truncation in new Pharo 8.0 64-bit (stable)

by Pavel Krivanek

Hi, you should never change the size of fonts only because it does not change the display scale factor. Try to first click on one button of predefined styles (small, medium...) and then change the font face without significant change in the font size. -- Pavel ne 19. 4. 2020 v 16:57 odesÃlatel <shaping(a)uurda.org> napsal: > Below you can see a section of Settings where the labels do not fit. The > GUI is broken even when the invalidation rectangle is correct: > > > > Shaping > > On 2020-04-19 08:49, shaping(a)uurda.org wrote: > > On 2020-04-19 08:34, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > Did you try another font ? Another size ? > > > Yes. Same problem. It's broken in any case. I know the font works. I > use it in several apps. > > Did you try closing & reopening the Settings Browser ? > > > Yes, Settings refreshes correctly when cycled, but it's still broken > because the painted area was not invalidated correctly the first time. > If you study the truncation contour carefully, you'll notice that if > forms a circular arc. Ring a bell? > > Here is more of the same problem in the Git client: > > Can the text-label formatting problem in Pharo 8 and later be fixed > now? Or, must the fix wait for a rewriting of the tools in Spec2? > > Shaping > > On 19 Apr 2020, at 16:31, shaping(a)uurda.org wrote: > > On 2020-04-19 03:01, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Works for me (this font is larger than the default one). macOS, > Pharo > 9 64bit The screenshot below is taken on Windows 10 Pro. This time > I did not change the theme. I did also update the fonts listed in > the dialog before choosing FiraCode. The labels are still > truncated. This is another new Pharo 8 64-bit (stable) with only > the font changed. Why would formatting not work on Windows 10? > Can any Windows 10 Pharo users verify this problem? > <07e94bb1.png> > > On 19 Apr 2020, at 06:05, Shaping <shaping(a)uurda.org> wrote: > > Can anyone suggest a fix for the truncated labels shown below in the > screenshot of the Setting window? This happens in the Git client > too. > > Will Pharo tools be rewritten in Spec2, and does its formatting > scheme solve generally the text-formatting problem, as font size is > changed? > > Why don't we opt for easy elastic rendering of GUIs by > implementing Pharo as a web app? Has this been discussed? Willow > is looking very good. > > Shaping > From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On > Behalf Of Shaping > Sent: Saturday, 18 April, 2020 04:16 > To: 'Any question about pharo is welcome' > <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org>; 'Pharo Development List' > <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> > Subject: [Pharo-users] Label truncation in new Pharo 8.0 64-bit > (stable) > > Hi everyone. > > Below is a Pharo 8.0 64-bit (stable) image (installed with the new > Launcher 2.0) with two changes: > > -Light theme selected. > -FiraCode 11 chosen as the default font. > > <image001.png> > > Truncated labels in the GUI on font change has always been a > problem. Am I the only one experiencing this? > > Shaping > From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On > Behalf Of Sanjay Minni > Sent: Friday, 17 April, 2020 11:05 > To: Any question about pharo is welcome > <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] issues in setting up a new project on > Github/Iceberg > > Thanks tried just https and this worked too > I suppose once cloned it does not really matter whether it was done > using "clone from github.com" or "clone remote repository" > --- > Sanjay Minni > +91-9900-902902 > > On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 at 19:43, Guillermo Polito > <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > El 17 abr 2020, a las 15:30, Sanjay Minni <sm(a)planage.com> > escribiÃ³: > > Hi Guillermo, > > Ok then given your comments - right now got it working as such > - initially created as private in Github > - changed to public > - created clone from github > - (did a repair repository (dont know why) and created "src" and > designated it as source folder) > - did a commit and push > - changed repository back to private > seems to work > > can you give an example on how the "Remote URL" field is to be > filled up - note its not taking HTTP as i am not sure about the > syntax, assume SSH, Github, MyName, MyRepository, > will try that as well > > you should be able to use the URLs provided by the clone buttons in > Github/gitlab/bitbucket, both https and ssh. > > <image004.png> > > note Just for Info to other users: > I am using Windows 10, it seems to have SSH tools inbuilt and was > able to use ssh (with passphrase) without hiccup, by putting my key > files path in pharo setting-> ...-> use custom SSH keys, and > uploading the .pub key in Github > > :) > > Thanks > > --- > Sanjay Minni > +91-9900-902902 > > On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 at 18:36, Guillermo Polito > <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Sanjay, > > This is a bug in Iceberg github integration that tries to access the > repository to get metadata using Github REST API using anonymous > access apparently. > And since your project is private, this fails. > > As a workaroung, I suggest you to clone using the last option that > requires an url only: > > <PastedGraphic-3.png> > > This option will not use the Github API, so you should find no > problems. > > I'm planning doing an Iceberg sprint and fix many issues in the > coming weeks. > (Also if somebody wants to join, this is an open call :)) > Guille > > El 17 abr 2020, a las 12:49, Sanjay Minni <sm(a)planage.com> > escribiÃ³: > > Using Pharo 8 64 bit on Windows 10 > > I am trying to setup a new project on Github using Iceberg following > the > document "Manage your code with Iceberg dtd 25 March 2019) > > After creating the project in github when I try to clone from Github > as (I > am at doc item1.4) The system throws an error and the project does > not > appear in iceberg although the files are downloaded. This happen in > both > cases whether I use HTTP or SSH > > What is going wrong ? > > also: assuming the clone is made, as per next item in doc 1.5, the > directory > "src" is created after the clone is made. is that correct ?... then > how will > the packages sources be mapped to ..\src > > <http://forum.world.st/file/t368721/1-GettingFirstEmptyProjFromGit.jpg> > > > > <http://forum.world.st/file/t368721/0-GithubProjectCreation.jpg> > > ----- > cheers, > Sanjay > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html > >

April 20, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] Non-blocking IO

by tbrunz

I think you can do what you describe if you use #fork to create separate processes for each of your concurrent HTTP calls. Here's an example -- Try the following (from http://forum.world.st/Teaching-fork-td4786444.html) 10 timesRepeat: [ (Delay forSeconds: 1) wait. Transcript show: 'hello'; cr ]. Then the following : [ 10 timesRepeat: [ (Delay forSeconds: 1) wait. Transcript show: 'hello'; cr ]] fork. You can also spawn OS sub-processes: https://github.com/pharo-contributions/OSSubprocess -t -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

April 19, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Launcher 2.0 released!

by TomaÅ¾ Turk

Congratulations on the new launcher! The experience is far better than with the previous version, nice work! I noticed something peculiar - I have two computers and am syncing the folders structure between them. If I create a new Pharo 8.0 image, work on it on this machine and finish, then it gets copied to the second machine. PharoLouncher on this second machine sees the image, however nothing happens if I lounch it. This happens also vice-versa with a new image on the second machine and its copy on the first. Both machines share the locations of - template source files - image inicialization scripts - images - VMs This happens on Windows 10. This kind of setup worked with previous version of launcher. Best wishes, Tomaz

April 19, 2020

UK Smalltalk User Group meeting - Wednesday April 29th

by Giovanni Corriga

The next meeting of the UK Smalltalk User GRoup will be on Wednesday, April 29th. Given the current COVID-19 restrictions, this will be an online meeting. If you'd like to join us, please sign up in advance at the meeting Meetup's page: https://www.meetup.com/UKSTUG/events/cbklbrybcgbdc/ to obtain the meeting details. See you there!

April 19, 2020