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Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Tudor Girba joins Pharo Board

by Hilaire Fernandes

Le 03/07/2013 09:59, Tudor Girba a Ã©crit : > We just have to capitalize on that, and I want to start by making > explicit what makes Pharo unique and valuable. Everyone thinks of > various things, but we do not yet have a concerted message. This > message, and I will aim at one single message, has to transpire in > everything we do: from the way we design the code, to the concepts we > adopt in the language, to the frameworks we build on top, and to the > developer and user experience. About message: "Pharo Smalltalk, design from you mind." The idea is to express Pharo set a very thin barrier between what lies in your mind and how your transpose it in a computerized form. Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

July 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Tudor Girba joins Pharo Board

by Igor Stasenko

On 3 July 2013 09:59, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Thanks for the wishes. > > Just a note: I do not see getting in the board as a prize, but as a work to > do. And there is some work left :) > Indeed. That's why i abstain from things like that. I have enough things to do :) > One of the points that I will stress everyone with is the marketing of > Pharo. Marketing, like any other meaningful thing, requires design. Design > requires feedback. And feedback requires time. That is why we have to start > with this endeavor sooner rather than later. > > The other thing about marketing is that it can actually be meaningful, but > this happens only when we live what we sell. Pharo does offer a fantastic > opportunity because when people talk about it, their eyes blink. This > reveals both value and values that are packaged deep in Pharo. > > We just have to capitalize on that, and I want to start by making explicit > what makes Pharo unique and valuable. Everyone thinks of various things, but > we do not yet have a concerted message. This message, and I will aim at one > single message, has to transpire in everything we do: from the way we design > the code, to the concepts we adopt in the language, to the frameworks we > build on top, and to the developer and user experience. > > This is exciting, but it requires team effort. This is where you come in. We > want your energy outside of pure coding. More concrete proposals will come > in the near future, but until then, feel free to chip in your ideas. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 4:16 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck > <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Congrats! Doru, It's well deserved. >> Best, >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Cool! >>> >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>> On Jul 2, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >>> >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > The Pharo Board is pleased to announce that Tudor Girba has recently >>> > joined the Pharo Board. Among others, he will try to contribute on long term >>> > issues like the positioning of Pharo. >>> > >>> > StÃ©phane, Marcus & Sven >>> > >>> > http://www.pharo-project.org/about/board >>> > >>> > -- >>> > http://pharo.org >>> > http://association.pharo.org >>> > http://consortium.pharo.org >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mariano >> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

July 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Fuel chapter using Gutemberg

by Tudor Girba

Exactly. Better would be to have a Readme with the link to the job-generated PDF. The problem with having the generated PDF in the repository is that you will have conflicts as soon as two people work concurrently on the text. Cheers, Doru On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:43 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>wrote: > > > > While I do agree with most of the temp files, I would let .pdf. > > Say someone wants to read the chapter...I have to follow all the steps > thereâ¦. > > no jenkins latex for us :) > > > If this is the place where at least temporary, final users should > download from...please let the PDF there. > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

July 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Tudor Girba joins Pharo Board

by Tudor Girba

Hi everyone, Thanks for the wishes. Just a note: I do not see getting in the board as a prize, but as a work to do. And there is some work left :) One of the points that I will stress everyone with is the marketing of Pharo. Marketing, like any other meaningful thing, requires design. Design requires feedback. And feedback requires time. That is why we have to start with this endeavor sooner rather than later. The other thing about marketing is that it can actually be meaningful, but this happens only when we live what we sell. Pharo does offer a fantastic opportunity because when people talk about it, their eyes blink. This reveals both value and values that are packaged deep in Pharo. We just have to capitalize on that, and I want to start by making explicit what makes Pharo unique and valuable. Everyone thinks of various things, but we do not yet have a concerted message. This message, and I will aim at one single message, has to transpire in everything we do: from the way we design the code, to the concepts we adopt in the language, to the frameworks we build on top, and to the developer and user experience. This is exciting, but it requires team effort. This is where you come in. We want your energy outside of pure coding. More concrete proposals will come in the near future, but until then, feel free to chip in your ideas. Cheers, Doru On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 4:16 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com > wrote: > Congrats! Doru, It's well deserved. > Best, > > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>wrote: > >> Cool! >> >> Alexandre >> >> >> On Jul 2, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > The Pharo Board is pleased to announce that Tudor Girba has recently >> joined the Pharo Board. Among others, he will try to contribute on long >> term issues like the positioning of Pharo. >> > >> > StÃ©phane, Marcus & Sven >> > >> > http://www.pharo-project.org/about/board >> > >> > -- >> > http://pharo.org >> > http://association.pharo.org >> > http://consortium.pharo.org >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

July 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Fuel chapter using Gutemberg

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> > While I do agree with most of the temp files, I would let .pdf. > Say someone wants to read the chapter...I have to follow all the steps thereâ¦. no jenkins latex for us :) > If this is the place where at least temporary, final users should download from...please let the PDF there.

July 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Opportunity

by Chris

Just thought I'd point out from the interest received so far that it would require working onsite in the UK > are you looking for a smalltalker? because we can forward your > announce to the esug mailing-list > > On Jul 2, 2013, at 7:50 PM, Chris <cpmbailey(a)btinternet.com > <mailto:cpmbailey@btinternet.com>> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Apologies if this is not the best place for this type of post but I'm >> not sure where else would be appropriate. >> >> I work for a company in the Midlands UK who are using Linux, Apache, >> Pharo, Postgres and also Python and C# and are looking to recruit. If >> anyone is interested then please drop me a private email. >> >> Thanks >> Chris >> >> cpmbailey(a)btinternet.com >

July 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Fuel chapter using Gutemberg

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>wrote: > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Martin Dias <tinchodias(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I mostly copy-pasted from our website > > (http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/software/Fuel/) but: > > - had to prefix with !! each title > > - couldn't insert pictures (TODO) > > - had to merge everything in only one big .pier (originally, it is > > splitted in several pages) > > > thank you very much Martin. That's a nice addition. Next time, please > just make sure not to commit temporary files to the repository (like > *.pdf, *.aux...). I've removed them. > > While I do agree with most of the temp files, I would let .pdf. Say someone wants to read the chapter...I have to follow all the steps there.... If this is the place where at least temporary, final users should download from...please let the PDF there. > What was your problem with pictures? There are pictures in other chapters. > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." > Winston Churchill > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

July 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Tudor Girba joins Pharo Board

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Congrats! Doru, It's well deserved. Best, On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>wrote: > Cool! > > Alexandre > > > On Jul 2, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > The Pharo Board is pleased to announce that Tudor Girba has recently > joined the Pharo Board. Among others, he will try to contribute on long > term issues like the positioning of Pharo. > > > > StÃ©phane, Marcus & Sven > > > > http://www.pharo-project.org/about/board > > > > -- > > http://pharo.org > > http://association.pharo.org > > http://consortium.pharo.org > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

July 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Fuel chapter using Gutemberg

by Martin Dias

On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Martin Dias <tinchodias(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> I mostly copy-pasted from our website >> (http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/software/Fuel/) but: >> - had to prefix with !! each title >> - couldn't insert pictures (TODO) >> - had to merge everything in only one big .pier (originally, it is >> splitted in several pages) > > > thank you very much Martin. That's a nice addition. Next time, please > just make sure not to commit temporary files to the repository (like > *.pdf, *.aux...). I've removed them. Ouch, I'm sorry. > > What was your problem with pictures? There are pictures in other chapters. Yes, I already fixed this. Thanks. > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." > Winston Churchill >

July 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Opportunity

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Excellent news! Stef On Jul 2, 2013, at 7:50 PM, Chris <cpmbailey(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > Apologies if this is not the best place for this type of post but I'm not sure where else would be appropriate. > > I work for a company in the Midlands UK who are using Linux, Apache, Pharo, Postgres and also Python and C# and are looking to recruit. If anyone is interested then please drop me a private email. > > Thanks > Chris > > cpmbailey(a)btinternet.com

July 2, 2013