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Re: [Pharo-users] WebClient Issues on Pharo 2.0

by Esteban Lorenzano

On 24 Dec 2013, at 12:54, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > Hello, > > On 24 Dec 2013, at 00:13, vmusulainen <vmusulainen(a)mail.ru> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have loaded WebClient from ConfigurationTool on Pharo 2.0. >> It seems something changed at system so I had some issues while loading the >> package and fixed it. I would make my fixes public for community. How do >> it? >> Does exist any guide? >> If I right understand this document >> <http://www.pharo-project.org/community/how-to-contribute> describe >> contrubuting for Pharo and not applicable for 3dparty packages. > > WebClient, like hundreds of others, is indeed a third-party, external package to Pharo. How are these maintained ? By their authors, and in some cases by volunteers. You can certainly discuss about these on the mailing lists and look for help, but you cannot expect the core Pharo community to take responsibility or to have any kind of obligation to act. > > Now, the original author of WebClient, Andreas Raab, sadly passed away last year. I see that the repository is readonly: > > http://www.squeaksource.com/WebClient.html > > If you cannot find anyone to give you write access, your only option would be to fork the code. > > Regards, > > Sven > > PS: I assume you do know that Pharo has out of the box, fully supported, HTTP client and server functionality standard in the image since 1.3, in the form of Zinc HTTP Components (ZnClient, ZnServer, ZnEasy) ? yep. why would you want to install webclient when you already has an out-of-the-box and actively maintained solution? > > > -- > Sven Van Caekenberghe > Proudly supporting Pharo > http://pharo.org > http://association.pharo.org > http://consortium.pharo.org > > > > >

Dec. 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] WebClient Issues on Pharo 2.0

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Hello, On 24 Dec 2013, at 00:13, vmusulainen <vmusulainen(a)mail.ru> wrote: > Hi, > > I have loaded WebClient from ConfigurationTool on Pharo 2.0. > It seems something changed at system so I had some issues while loading the > package and fixed it. I would make my fixes public for community. How do > it? > Does exist any guide? > If I right understand this document > <http://www.pharo-project.org/community/how-to-contribute> describe > contrubuting for Pharo and not applicable for 3dparty packages. WebClient, like hundreds of others, is indeed a third-party, external package to Pharo. How are these maintained ? By their authors, and in some cases by volunteers. You can certainly discuss about these on the mailing lists and look for help, but you cannot expect the core Pharo community to take responsibility or to have any kind of obligation to act. Now, the original author of WebClient, Andreas Raab, sadly passed away last year. I see that the repository is readonly: http://www.squeaksource.com/WebClient.html If you cannot find anyone to give you write access, your only option would be to fork the code. Regards, Sven PS: I assume you do know that Pharo has out of the box, fully supported, HTTP client and server functionality standard in the image since 1.3, in the form of Zinc HTTP Components (ZnClient, ZnServer, ZnEasy) ? -- Sven Van Caekenberghe Proudly supporting Pharo http://pharo.org http://association.pharo.org http://consortium.pharo.org

Dec. 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] WebClient Issues on Pharo 2.0

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

I am interested in how to proceed about community packages. I have previously asked and nobody replied: http://forum.world.st/Programmatic-Scoped-Browsing-td4724820.html Cheers, HernÃ¡n El 23/12/2013 20:13, vmusulainen escribiÃ³: > Hi, > > I have loaded WebClient from ConfigurationTool on Pharo 2.0. > It seems something changed at system so I had some issues while loading the > package and fixed it. I would make my fixes public for community. How do > it? > Does exist any guide? > If I right understand this document > <http://www.pharo-project.org/community/how-to-contribute> describe > contrubuting for Pharo and not applicable for 3dparty packages. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Issues-on-Pharo-2-0-tp4732142.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Dec. 24, 2013

WebClient Issues on Pharo 2.0

by vmusulainen

Hi, I have loaded WebClient from ConfigurationTool on Pharo 2.0. It seems something changed at system so I had some issues while loading the package and fixed it. I would make my fixes public for community. How do it? Does exist any guide? If I right understand this document <http://www.pharo-project.org/community/how-to-contribute> describe contrubuting for Pharo and not applicable for 3dparty packages. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Issues-on-Pharo-2-0-tp4732142.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 23, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Fwd: NativeBoost and standard out

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Maybe does this help (Proceed the warning) Gofer it url: 'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/hernan/ProcessWrapper/main'; package: 'ProcessWrapper-Core'; package: 'ProcessWrapper-Plugin'; package: 'ProcessWrapper-Tests'; load. ProcessWrapper new useStdout; startWithShellCommand: 'dir | sort'; upToEnd HernÃ¡n El 23/12/2013 16:06, Sean P. DeNigris escribiÃ³: > Emilio Oca-3 wrote >> Hi >> >> >> >> Is it possible to get the stdout results when running WinProcess >> createAndWaitForProcess: aCommand?. >> >> If it is not, any alternative? >> >> >> >> Best >> >> >> >> Emilio > > Bump... > > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Fwd-NativeBoost-and-standard-out-tp4732117.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Dec. 23, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] NativeBoost and standard out

by Esteban Lorenzano

On 23 Dec 2013, at 21:13, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 23 December 2013 20:06, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > Emilio Oca-3 wrote > > Hi > > > > > > > > Is it possible to get the stdout results when running WinProcess > > createAndWaitForProcess: aCommand?. > > > > If it is not, any alternative? > > > > > > > > Best > > > > > > > > Emilio > > Bump... > > > I not sure how this question related to NB. WinProcess is not part of it. > As for alternatives, i guess there is some, and can be implemented with FFI calls, > but what exactly, you better look for windows API docs. is related to NB-FFI, I guess. I recommend you to take a look at this: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~OS/OS-Windows there can be a solution (not sure, because I never used it) Other possibility is not using NB but OSProcess: http://www.squeaksource.com/OSProcess.html hope it solves your problem. cheers, Esteban > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko.

Dec. 23, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Fwd: NativeBoost and standard out

by Igor Stasenko

On 23 December 2013 20:06, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > Emilio Oca-3 wrote > > Hi > > > > > > > > Is it possible to get the stdout results when running WinProcess > > createAndWaitForProcess: aCommand?. > > > > If it is not, any alternative? > > > > > > > > Best > > > > > > > > Emilio > > Bump... > > > I not sure how this question related to NB. WinProcess is not part of it. As for alternatives, i guess there is some, and can be implemented with FFI calls, but what exactly, you better look for windows API docs. -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Dec. 23, 2013

Fwd: NativeBoost and standard out

by Sean P. DeNigris

Emilio Oca-3 wrote > Hi > > > > Is it possible to get the stdout results when running WinProcess > createAndWaitForProcess: aCommand?. > > If it is not, any alternative? > > > > Best > > > > Emilio Bump... ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Fwd-NativeBoost-and-standard-out-tp4732117.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 23, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Install Pharo on Win 7 64 bit computer

by David T. Lewis

On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 06:52:25AM -0500, Daniel Roe wrote: > I > am trying to install Pharo on a Win7 64 bit computer and am following the > examples given in the manual. > > I open up a new workspace and type in > > time now > > Then choose - print it - from the action menu and I get an error message stating that the > receiver of "now" is nil. i realize it's probably something really stupid I'm missing but I need help please. Hi Dan, Try doing this again with upper-case 'T' like this: Time now Explanation: There is a class in the system called 'Time'. That class is an object (like everything else in the system), and the object knows how to respond to the message called 'now'. When you evaluate the expression 'Time now' (by choosing print it in the workspace), the 'now' message is sent to the 'Time' object, which responds with the current time. What you saw instead was the result of sending the message 'now' to an undefined variable 'time' in your workspace. Your 'now' message was received by a special object called 'nil' that represents the undefined object. When the object called 'nil' received your 'now' message, it generated the error message that you saw. HTH, Dave

Dec. 23, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoLauncher as the default Pharo download on pharo.org?

by Esteban Lorenzano

On 23 Dec 2013, at 14:05, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 23 Dec 2013, at 01:17, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > >> >> On Dec 22, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Mark Bestley <st(a)bestley.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> On 22/12/2013 14:04, Johan Fabry wrote: >>> >>>>>> Also, I think it is very wrong to keep the images in the Library >>>>>> folder by default. The Library is "hidden" and a "black magic - do not >>>>>> touch" area for the common user. A sensible default is the Documents folder. >>> >>> If a user thinks the Library is black magic then they won't be manipulating images outside of Pharo and PharoLauncher. (as I don't think they will be capable of doing so) > > This is wrong. A mac user not ever touch his songs directly, it uses iTunes, yet his music files are at "Music/iTunes Musicâ, not hidden. > Same applies for pharo images. Even if you are not going to touch them, you still want them in a visible place (for copying, backing, sharing, etc.). Or just because. > The default folder has to be Documents/Pharo, not some hard to access place. > > A pharo image is NOT an obscure configuration library. Is much more like a document or a song than a preference. Ahâ¦ and vmware and parallels also keep their images by default at Documents folder. > >> >> I am a counter-example. *I* think the Library is black magic and I manipulate images in the finder. >> >>> I think this is a misreading of Apple's directory design. It is for more than preferences and caches but for all app-specific files >> >> I am not knowledgeable on the design intent of Apple. I am just a user, and looking at what is inside the Library folder is scary. I have no documents of mine in there. >> >> I will stop here, I think I made my point. Feel free to disagree :-) >> >> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >> >> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >> PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >> >> >

Dec. 23, 2013