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Re: [Pharo-users] running Pharo8 in Digitalocean

by Sanjay Minni

Hi Eventually in a Digitalocean Ubuntu droplet, I connected from Windows 10 to a Ubuntu Graphical desktop, installed PharoLauncher and couple of images and got seaside up, installed Mongo DB and a Pharo App. pretty smooth and can share how to step by step if anybody is interested. (note: no additional software is required on Windows 10 except chrome - as SSH, Remote Desktop is inbuilt, Chrome only for its VNC app) Question: what is the best way to run and leave the Pharo App as a seaside server running. Currently I am running thru the X Desktop and if I Disconnect / logout from the remote desktop session then the pharo app may go down. also is that the most stable and resource optimised way further: is Apache recommended ----- cheers, Sanjay -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

May 16, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] ifCurtailed prompts debug window

by Ben Coman

With the first, you are not defining for the Error to be handled, only what to do when the stack unwinds abnormally. In the second you are defining for the Error to be handled, so it does that. cheers -ben On Sat, 16 May 2020 at 01:00, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > On Windows 10 and Pharo 8, If I do: > > [ Error signal ] ifCurtailed: [ Transcript show: 'error' ]. > > the debug window pops up, when I close, 'error' is print in the > Transcript. If I do > > [ Error signal ] on: Error do: [ Transcript show: 'error' ]. > > 'error' is print in Transcript without debug windows pops up. I was > expecting the same behavior here, as if ifCurtailed was a syntax sugar for > on:do:, that is not the case or it is some kind of error? The way it is, I > cannot use ifCurtailed because I don't want the debug window to pup up. > > Regards, > Vitor >

May 16, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are good reasons to use Smalltalk?

by horrido

I've changed the word "developers" to "people". In a poll, it's hard to keep the question's answers brief and to the point. You don't want to be too wordy. So I have to choose my words very, very carefully so that I can be as concise as possible. I don't know how successful I am. Richard Sargent wrote > On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 1:31 PM horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: > >> I've updated the poll question, but since there are already 56 votes, it >> looks like nobody chose my new addition. Perhaps more of you should vote >> to >> change that. >> > > Communicating with developers is implicit. My point was about > communicating > with subject matter experts. i.e. non-developers. > When our code closely corresponds to the language used by non-developers, > we improve our chances that future communication remains fruitful and less > subject to mis-interpretation. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

May 16, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are good reasons to use Smalltalk?

by Esteban Maringolo

I don't know what is behind the poll system, but it doesn't work in Brave browser. It simply says "Thanks for participating in the poll." I find the questions confusing though. Esteban A. Maringolo On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 4:43 PM Richard Kenneth Eng <horrido.hobbies(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > https://smalltalk.tech.blog/2020/05/13/what-are-good-reasons-to-use-smallta… > > Please participate in the poll.

May 15, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are good reasons to use Smalltalk?

by Richard Sargent

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 1:31 PM horrido <horrido.hobbies(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I've updated the poll question, but since there are already 56 votes, it > looks like nobody chose my new addition. Perhaps more of you should vote to > change that. > Communicating with developers is implicit. My point was about communicating with subject matter experts. i.e. non-developers. When our code closely corresponds to the language used by non-developers, we improve our chances that future communication remains fruitful and less subject to mis-interpretation. > > horrido wrote > > You are quite right. How did I manage to miss that?!! > > > > > > Richard Sargent wrote > >> You missed the fact that it makes it easier to communicate with the user > >> community, since it's a "near-English" grammar, and you can easily use a > >> common terminology. > >> > >> > >> On Wed, May 13, 2020, 12:43 Richard Kenneth Eng < > > > >> horrido.hobbies@ > > > >> > > >> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > https://smalltalk.tech.blog/2020/05/13/what-are-good-reasons-to-use-smallta… > >>> > >>> > >>> Please participate in the poll. > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html > >

May 15, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are good reasons to use Smalltalk?

by horrido

I've updated the poll question, but since there are already 56 votes, it looks like nobody chose my new addition. Perhaps more of you should vote to change that. horrido wrote > You are quite right. How did I manage to miss that?!! > > > Richard Sargent wrote >> You missed the fact that it makes it easier to communicate with the user >> community, since it's a "near-English" grammar, and you can easily use a >> common terminology. >> >> >> On Wed, May 13, 2020, 12:43 Richard Kenneth Eng < > >> horrido.hobbies@ > >> > >> wrote: >> >>> >>> https://smalltalk.tech.blog/2020/05/13/what-are-good-reasons-to-use-smallta… >>> >>> >>> Please participate in the poll. >>> > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

May 15, 2020

pharo 8 - method versions - how to see author/timestamp?

by PAUL DEBRUICKER

Hi - Sometimes I want to revert to older versions of methods e.g. from an hour ago. In the "Recent versions of MyClass>>#myMethod" dialog no timestamps or authors are present. How do I see those? Thanks Paul

May 15, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] ifCurtailed prompts debug window

by Vitor Medina Cruz

Thanks! I will use on:do: so. On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 2:12 PM Richard Sargent < richard.sargent(a)gemtalksystems.com> wrote: > On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:00 AM Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> On Windows 10 and Pharo 8, If I do: >> >> [ Error signal ] ifCurtailed: [ Transcript show: 'error' ]. >> >> the debug window pops up, when I close, 'error' is print in the >> Transcript. If I do >> > > That is correct. It isn't curtailed until the default handler finishes and > drops the stack frames. In this case, the default handler opens the > debugger. When you terminate the debugger, you curtail the execution, not > before. > > >> [ Error signal ] on: Error do: [ Transcript show: 'error' ]. >> >> 'error' is print in Transcript without debug windows pops up. I was >> expecting the same behavior here, as if ifCurtailed was a syntax sugar for >> on:do:, that is not the case or it is some kind of error? The way it is, I >> cannot use ifCurtailed because I don't want the debug window to pup up. >> >> Regards, >> Vitor >> >

May 15, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are good reasons to use Smalltalk?

by Vitor Medina Cruz

You should make something similar but inverted, like: Why do you think Smalltalk should not be used? --or What are the problems you have that prevents you of using Smalltalk? I have seen many such posts of Smalltalk wonders, and while I agree with most of them, it seems that they aren't enough to increase usage and interest in it, and I am aware of some critics that are made too. Such post might bring lots of feedback, some useful other don't, and might shed some light on what is keeping people away from Smalltalk. Luckily, a list of those most important factors could be build and prioritized. For example, a first questionnaire could be more open, then a list of major complaints could be processed into a pool asking which one of those people think are the wrost. What do you think? Regards, Vitor On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 12:56 PM horrido <horrido.hobbies(a)gmail.com> wrote: > You are quite right. How did I manage to miss that?!! > > > Richard Sargent wrote > > You missed the fact that it makes it easier to communicate with the user > > community, since it's a "near-English" grammar, and you can easily use a > > common terminology. > > > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2020, 12:43 Richard Kenneth Eng < > > > horrido.hobbies@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > >> > >> > https://smalltalk.tech.blog/2020/05/13/what-are-good-reasons-to-use-smallta… > >> > >> > >> Please participate in the poll. > >> > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html > >

May 15, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] ifCurtailed prompts debug window

by Richard Sargent

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:00 AM Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > On Windows 10 and Pharo 8, If I do: > > [ Error signal ] ifCurtailed: [ Transcript show: 'error' ]. > > the debug window pops up, when I close, 'error' is print in the > Transcript. If I do > That is correct. It isn't curtailed until the default handler finishes and drops the stack frames. In this case, the default handler opens the debugger. When you terminate the debugger, you curtail the execution, not before. > [ Error signal ] on: Error do: [ Transcript show: 'error' ]. > > 'error' is print in Transcript without debug windows pops up. I was > expecting the same behavior here, as if ifCurtailed was a syntax sugar for > on:do:, that is not the case or it is some kind of error? The way it is, I > cannot use ifCurtailed because I don't want the debug window to pup up. > > Regards, > Vitor >

May 15, 2020