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Re: [Pharo-users] goods

by Andy Kellens

Hi, It has been a rather long time since we pushed an update to the public repository of DALi. This does not mean that the project is abandoned: we still use it actively for Yesplan to switch easily between the database in our development environment (very simple in-mem db for e.g. unit tests, GOODS) and deploying on GemStone. Recently, we did add a couple of small features and fixed some bugs, so Iâll coordinate with Johan when he is back next week and see to it that a new version is pushed. Letâs take advantage of the opportunity to migrate DALi (and also update/extend its documentation). Kind regards, Andy On 20 Jul 2014, at 19:14, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/DALi.html/Overview > > Johan should migrate it. > > Stef > > On 20/7/14 18:53, Pablo R. Digonzelli wrote: >> Thanks steph , i am looking for DALI but i can found it neither on squeaksource neither on smalltalhub . Can you help me with that? >> >> TIA >> >> Ing. Pablo Digonzelli >> Software Solutions >> IP-Solutiones SRL >> Metrotec SRL >> 25 de Mayo 521 >> Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com >> pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com >> Cel: 5493815982714 >> >> De: "stepharo" <stepharo(a)free.fr> >> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> >> Enviados: Domingo, 20 de Julio 2014 5:48:06 >> Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] goods >> >> Hi Pablo >> >> I do not know. Now what I suggest to you is to use DALI (it is an abstraction layer built by the yesPlan guys Johan, andy >> - johan is on vacation). >> >> Dali was presented at ESUG at Barcelona. The idea is to make sure that you can switch between Goods and other oo database. >> >> There is also magma but since chris muller is developing in Squeak I do not know if it is working in Pharo and also >> if it scales for you. May be chris will comment. >> >> Stef >> >> On 20/7/14 00:56, Pablo R. Digonzelli wrote: >> hi all, is someone using GOODS in production project? >> I want to know their opinion about it. >> >> TIA >> >> >> Ing. Pablo Digonzelli >> Software Solutions >> IP-Solutiones SRL >> Metrotec SRL >> 25 de Mayo 521 >> Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com >> pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com >> Cel: 5493815982714 >> >> >> >

July 21, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Tree/Outliners of playgrounds, markdown inside comments and some quick medium size dreams for Pharo/Smalltalk

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Hi Damien, Thanks for your answer. Comments below. On 07/21/2014 11:09 AM, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 2:47 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas > <offray(a)riseup.net> wrote: >> The first idea that comes to mind is using STON for storage nodes and tree >> information, so I can interchange it with the flatland files world and keep >> it readable. Sounds that reasonable? > > > without more information, it is hard to stay. Try with STON and change > if that does not work :-). We have XML and JSON generators as well. > This is a kind of raw preview of I'm talking about: http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-53cd4f36f021e9.68569046.jpg Of course in this case, it is just a Help browser with a Playground window over it, but I would like to have something like Playgrounds inside the help browser. I was trying to build a custom browser with Glamour, but seems that Help Browser already has the machinery I'm looking for. So my first question is how to use the Help Browser class as a template for my outliner class? And can I put a Playground where the plain text is located right now? > >> The second thing I would like to do is to add pandoc's markdown inside >> comments, but I don't like the syntax of comments in Smalltalk because >> single quotes are fairly easy to find in light markup language like >> markdown. Is difficult to change it to create something more like python >> (with """) or Lua (with -[]- )? > > > There is only one syntax for comments in Pharo. Instead of Markdown, > you might want to have a look at Pillar which is implemented in Pharo > and can generate Markdown (and html, and pdf) : > https://github.com/pillar-markup/pillar-documentation/ > > I have seen Pillar. Seems really interesting, but Pandocs markdown support academic citation in several formats and I have already long docs wrote on that format integrated in my workflow from Zotero and even there is a growing community working on Scholarly Markdown[1][2] so I would like to stick with it as much as I can for my own writing. That being said. I would like also a better integration between Smalltalk outliners and all the academic publication work flow, including working better with pandoc as a external library. [1] https://github.com/scholmd/scholmd/wiki [2] http://blog.martinfenner.org/2013/06/29/metadata-in-scholarly-markdown/ [3] http://programminghistorian.org/lessons/sustainable-authorship-in-plain-tex… Thanks again, this conversation with people in the community is very valuable to me, Offray

July 21, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Filesystem bug or limitation?

by Juan Ignacio Vaccarezza

Ben, It worked like a charm with the noserverino!! Thank you very much! Juan On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 1:00 PM, <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > Juan Ignacio Vaccarezza wrote: > >> Hello all, >> I'm playing with pharo filesystem and I run into an issue. >> I want to access the content of a remote windows folder from >> Linux, so my idea was to mount it using mount -t cifs, which works >> perfect, following that i thought I will access from pharo as any other >> directory. >> Instead of that if I try to make a fileReference with the mount point >> path I't says it deos not exists. But if I ask the parent folder for its >> childrends the mount point appears but not as a directory. >> >> Example: >> given: >> /mnt/remoteFolderMountPoint >> >> before mounting: >> '/mnt/remoteFolderMountPoint' asFileReference exists -> true >> '/mnt/remoteFolderMountPoint' asFileReference isDirectory -> true >> after mounting >> '/mnt/remoteFolderMountPoint' asFileReference exists -> false >> '/mnt/remoteFolderMountPoint' asFileReference isDirectory -> false >> Other curious thing is that if I do: '/mnt/' asFileReference >> children, it shows the mountpoint forlder that claims not to exist :S >> >> Any ideas? >> >> Thanks, >> Juan >> >> > From http://php.net/manual/en/function.is-dir.php... > Just a note for anyone who encounters is_dir() returning false on CIFS > mount points or directories within those mount points on 2.6.31 and newer > kernels: Apparently in new kernels they've started using the CIFS serverino > option by default. With Windows shares this causes huge inode numbers and > which apparently can cause is_dir() to return false. Adding the > noserverino option to the CIFS mount will prevent this. This may only > occur on 32 systems but I don't have a 64 bit install to test against. > > So try using "noserverino" and testing before and after with " ls -i " > > Alternatively maybe compiling the VM with -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 would work > https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7707 > > Also > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7600863/inode-of- > directory-on-mounted-share-changes-despite-no-change-in-modification-ti > https://lists.samba.org/archive/samba-technical/2010-December/075074.html > > HTH, > cheers -ben > > > > >

July 21, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Tree/Outliners of playgrounds, markdown inside comments and some quick medium size dreams for Pharo/Smalltalk

by Damien Cassou

On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 2:47 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas <offray(a)riseup.net> wrote: > The first idea that comes to mind is using STON for storage nodes and tree > information, so I can interchange it with the flatland files world and keep > it readable. Sounds that reasonable? without more information, it is hard to stay. Try with STON and change if that does not work :-). We have XML and JSON generators as well. > The second thing I would like to do is to add pandoc's markdown inside > comments, but I don't like the syntax of comments in Smalltalk because > single quotes are fairly easy to find in light markup language like > markdown. Is difficult to change it to create something more like python > (with """) or Lua (with -[]- )? There is only one syntax for comments in Pharo. Instead of Markdown, you might want to have a look at Pillar which is implemented in Pharo and can generate Markdown (and html, and pdf) : https://github.com/pillar-markup/pillar-documentation/ -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

July 21, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Filesystem bug or limitation?

by btc＠openinworld.com

Juan Ignacio Vaccarezza wrote: > Hello all, > I'm playing with pharo filesystem and I run into an issue. > > I want to access the content of a remote windows folder from > Linux, so my idea was to mount it using mount -t cifs, which works > perfect, following that i thought I will access from pharo as any > other directory. > Instead of that if I try to make a fileReference with the mount > point path I't says it deos not exists. But if I ask the parent folder > for its childrends the mount point appears but not as a directory. > > Example: > given: > /mnt/remoteFolderMountPoint > > before mounting: > '/mnt/remoteFolderMountPoint' asFileReference exists -> true > '/mnt/remoteFolderMountPoint' asFileReference isDirectory -> true > after mounting > '/mnt/remoteFolderMountPoint' asFileReference exists -> false > '/mnt/remoteFolderMountPoint' asFileReference isDirectory -> false > > Other curious thing is that if I do: '/mnt/' asFileReference > children, it shows the mountpoint forlder that claims not to exist :S > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Juan > From http://php.net/manual/en/function.is-dir.php... Just a note for anyone who encounters is_dir() returning false on CIFS mount points or directories within those mount points on 2.6.31 and newer kernels: Apparently in new kernels they've started using the CIFS serverino option by default. With Windows shares this causes huge inode numbers and which apparently can cause is_dir() to return false. Adding the noserverino option to the CIFS mount will prevent this. This may only occur on 32 systems but I don't have a 64 bit install to test against. So try using "noserverino" and testing before and after with " ls -i " Alternatively maybe compiling the VM with -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 would work https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7707 Also http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7600863/inode-of-directory-on-mounted-sh… https://lists.samba.org/archive/samba-technical/2010-December/075074.html HTH, cheers -ben

July 21, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Filesystem bug or limitation?

by Esteban Lorenzano

I suppose (but Iâm just guessing), that is because it is not a real file but a kind of symlink. Esteban On 21 Jul 2014, at 16:53, Juan Ignacio Vaccarezza <juanvaccarezza(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello all, > I'm playing with pharo filesystem and I run into an issue. > > I want to access the content of a remote windows folder from Linux, so my idea was to mount it using mount -t cifs, which works perfect, following that i thought I will access from pharo as any other directory. > Instead of that if I try to make a fileReference with the mount point path I't says it deos not exists. But if I ask the parent folder for its childrends the mount point appears but not as a directory. > > Example: > given: > /mnt/remoteFolderMountPoint > > before mounting: > '/mnt/remoteFolderMountPoint' asFileReference exists -> true > '/mnt/remoteFolderMountPoint' asFileReference isDirectory -> true > after mounting > '/mnt/remoteFolderMountPoint' asFileReference exists -> false > '/mnt/remoteFolderMountPoint' asFileReference isDirectory -> false > > Other curious thing is that if I do: '/mnt/' asFileReference children, it shows the mountpoint forlder that claims not to exist :S > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Juan >

July 21, 2014

Filesystem bug or limitation?

by Juan Ignacio Vaccarezza

Hello all, I'm playing with pharo filesystem and I run into an issue. I want to access the content of a remote windows folder from Linux, so my idea was to mount it using mount -t cifs, which works perfect, following that i thought I will access from pharo as any other directory. Instead of that if I try to make a fileReference with the mount point path I't says it deos not exists. But if I ask the parent folder for its childrends the mount point appears but not as a directory. Example: given: /mnt/remoteFolderMountPoint before mounting: '/mnt/remoteFolderMountPoint' asFileReference exists -> true '/mnt/remoteFolderMountPoint' asFileReference isDirectory -> true after mounting '/mnt/remoteFolderMountPoint' asFileReference exists -> false '/mnt/remoteFolderMountPoint' asFileReference isDirectory -> false Other curious thing is that if I do: '/mnt/' asFileReference children, it shows the mountpoint forlder that claims not to exist :S Any ideas? Thanks, Juan

July 21, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] goods

by Pierce Ng

On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 07:14:16PM +0200, stepharo wrote: > http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/DALi.html/Overview > Johan should migrate it. Probably doesn't help that the page title on SS3 is "Database Abstraction Layer" and the name is "DAL" followed by a small letter i.

July 21, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] goods

by Pierce Ng

On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 07:56:20PM -0300, Pablo R. Digonzelli wrote: > hi all, is someone using GOODS in production project? > I want to know their opinion about it. I played with GOODS, as seen on my blog, which you've just visited. :-) I'm not sure about using it in production: GOODS stores passwords in the clear in a text file, and the Squeak/Pharo client doesn't do authentication. Pierce

July 21, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] managing keybindings with gtinspector

by Ben Coman

July 21, 2014