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Re: [Pharo-users] Syntax Error: Cannot store into

by Esteban Lorenzano

he, I missed that discussion :) good to know! Esteban On 06 Sep 2014, at 10:53, Mark Rizun <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Now that's not strange. > Thanks for info > > > 2014-09-06 11:49 GMT+03:00 Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com>: > If you missed our discussion with Marcus, Opal allowed constructs like that until week ago. > > Uko > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 06 Sep 2014, at 10:46, Mark Rizun <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> You are right there is such a code. >> And it's really strange how it compiled earlier:) >> Thanks >> >> >> 2014-09-06 11:42 GMT+03:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: >> well, this is weird :) >> the error you have is usually because you have something like this: >> >> myMethod: aParameter >> â¦ >> aParameter := something. >> â¦ >> >> (same can happen with blocks). >> >> you cannot assign a parameterâ¦ and compiler protests if you try. >> but I wander how you could introduce the problem the first time. Compiler should deny that kind of construction. >> >> Anyway, your fix is to change that :) >> >> Esteban >> >> On 06 Sep 2014, at 10:39, Mark Rizun <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Package of my project RewriteTool. >>> Here it is: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~MarkRizun/RewriteTool/packages/RewriteTool >>> >>> >>> 2014-09-06 11:33 GMT+03:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: >>> which package? >>> >>> >>> On 06 Sep 2014, at 10:28, Mark Rizun <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> > Hi everyone! >>> > >>> > When loading a package via Monticello, while compiling methods it gives an >>> > error: >>> > Syntax Error: Cannot store into and then a method. >>> > What does it mean? >>> > >>> > Best, >>> > Mark >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Syntax-Error-Cannot-store-into-tp4776675.html >>> > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> > >>> >>> >>> >> >> >

Sept. 6, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] not a smalltalk!

by PBKResearch

I donât know what technical incompatibilities may exist, but for many practicalities Pharo is compatible with Squeak and other dialects. I am using an application (Todd Blanchardâs HTMCSS parser and validator) which was originally written for Squeak. Some years ago I ported it to Dolphin Smalltalk, with no change other than replacing Squeakâs left-arrow assignment with :=, and just two weeks ago I downloaded it from the Squeak repository on smalltalkhub.com and installed it in Pharo 3.0; it is now working perfectly with no changes from the Squeak version. If someone were developing such a package now in Pharo, it might be tempting to use the Zinc library for the input of web pages, and that might cause portability problems. Similarly, if you develop something with an elaborate user interface in Pharo, you may find that the UI code does not port easily (or at all). But the core language of Pharo (and the language in which the libraries are written) is definitely Smalltalk. In reply to Yuriy, there are languages around which do call themselves Smalltalk, but which do not implement essential parts of standard Smalltalk. So where does the âhave to make it compatibleâ come from? Peter Kenny From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of kilon alios Sent: 05 September 2014 19:46 To: Any question about pharo is welcome Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] not a smalltalk! AFAIK Pharo technically is not even compatible with Squeak which is where it forks form. You assume the code you write will automatically be incompatible to smalltalk-80 but since pretty much a huge percentage of the functionality of Pharo and Smalltalk is in libraries since the language itself is so minimal , I dont think it would be so hard to make your Pharo code smalltalk-80 friendly. I advice doing your own tests and seeing for yourself. Then ask questions how to solve problems you encounter. No reason to panic before facing the facts :) On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 9:33 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com <mailto:yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> > wrote: There is a long story about all that. But to be short: - if you call it Smalltalk then you have to make it compatible with other Smalltalks. And they are a lot in the 80sâ¦ - we want to make something new and cool what may be not always compatible. So yeah On 05 Sep 2014, at 20:25, Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh(a)kathe.in <mailto:mayuresh@kathe.in> > wrote: > hey, i've just been reading up the pharo forums, and one of the posts/entries mentions something about pharo not being a smalltalk, but instead a dialect! > > is it true? > > that would mean, all or any code i write for pharo would not be portable to other smalltalk-80 systems! > > hmnn... > > ~mayuresh > >

Sept. 6, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Syntax Error: Cannot store into

by Mark Rizun

Now that's not strange. Thanks for info 2014-09-06 11:49 GMT+03:00 Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com>: > If you missed our discussion with Marcus, Opal allowed constructs like > that until week ago. > > Uko > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 06 Sep 2014, at 10:46, Mark Rizun <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > You are right there is such a code. > And it's really strange how it compiled earlier:) > Thanks > > > 2014-09-06 11:42 GMT+03:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > >> well, this is weird :) >> the error you have is usually because you have something like this: >> >> myMethod: aParameter >> â¦ >> aParameter := something. >> â¦ >> >> (same can happen with blocks). >> >> you cannot assign a parameterâ¦ and compiler protests if you try. >> but I wander how you could introduce the problem the first time. Compiler >> should deny that kind of construction. >> >> Anyway, your fix is to change that :) >> >> Esteban >> >> On 06 Sep 2014, at 10:39, Mark Rizun <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Package of my project RewriteTool. >> Here it is: >> http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~MarkRizun/RewriteTool/packages/RewriteTool >> >> >> 2014-09-06 11:33 GMT+03:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: >> >>> which package? >>> >>> >>> On 06 Sep 2014, at 10:28, Mark Rizun <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> > Hi everyone! >>> > >>> > When loading a package via Monticello, while compiling methods it >>> gives an >>> > error: >>> > Syntax Error: Cannot store into and then a method. >>> > What does it mean? >>> > >>> > Best, >>> > Mark >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > View this message in context: >>> http://forum.world.st/Syntax-Error-Cannot-store-into-tp4776675.html >>> > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com >>> . >>> > >>> >>> >>> >> >> >

Sept. 6, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Syntax Error: Cannot store into

by Yuriy Tymchuk

If you missed our discussion with Marcus, Opal allowed constructs like that until week ago. Uko Sent from my iPhone > On 06 Sep 2014, at 10:46, Mark Rizun <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > You are right there is such a code. > And it's really strange how it compiled earlier:) > Thanks > > > 2014-09-06 11:42 GMT+03:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: >> well, this is weird :) >> the error you have is usually because you have something like this: >> >> myMethod: aParameter >> â¦ >> aParameter := something. >> â¦ >> >> (same can happen with blocks). >> >> you cannot assign a parameterâ¦ and compiler protests if you try. >> but I wander how you could introduce the problem the first time. Compiler should deny that kind of construction. >> >> Anyway, your fix is to change that :) >> >> Esteban >> >>> On 06 Sep 2014, at 10:39, Mark Rizun <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Package of my project RewriteTool. >>> Here it is: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~MarkRizun/RewriteTool/packages/RewriteTool >>> >>> >>> 2014-09-06 11:33 GMT+03:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: >>>> which package? >>>> >>>> >>>> On 06 Sep 2014, at 10:28, Mark Rizun <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> > Hi everyone! >>>> > >>>> > When loading a package via Monticello, while compiling methods it gives an >>>> > error: >>>> > Syntax Error: Cannot store into and then a method. >>>> > What does it mean? >>>> > >>>> > Best, >>>> > Mark >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Syntax-Error-Cannot-store-into-tp4776675.html >>>> > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>> > >

Sept. 6, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Syntax Error: Cannot store into

by Mark Rizun

You are right there is such a code. And it's really strange how it compiled earlier:) Thanks 2014-09-06 11:42 GMT+03:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > well, this is weird :) > the error you have is usually because you have something like this: > > myMethod: aParameter > â¦ > aParameter := something. > â¦ > > (same can happen with blocks). > > you cannot assign a parameterâ¦ and compiler protests if you try. > but I wander how you could introduce the problem the first time. Compiler > should deny that kind of construction. > > Anyway, your fix is to change that :) > > Esteban > > On 06 Sep 2014, at 10:39, Mark Rizun <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Package of my project RewriteTool. > Here it is: > http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~MarkRizun/RewriteTool/packages/RewriteTool > > > 2014-09-06 11:33 GMT+03:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > >> which package? >> >> >> On 06 Sep 2014, at 10:28, Mark Rizun <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Hi everyone! >> > >> > When loading a package via Monticello, while compiling methods it gives >> an >> > error: >> > Syntax Error: Cannot store into and then a method. >> > What does it mean? >> > >> > Best, >> > Mark >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > View this message in context: >> http://forum.world.st/Syntax-Error-Cannot-store-into-tp4776675.html >> > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> > >> >> >> > >

Sept. 6, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Syntax Error: Cannot store into

by Esteban Lorenzano

well, this is weird :) the error you have is usually because you have something like this: myMethod: aParameter â¦ aParameter := something. â¦ (same can happen with blocks). you cannot assign a parameterâ¦ and compiler protests if you try. but I wander how you could introduce the problem the first time. Compiler should deny that kind of construction. Anyway, your fix is to change that :) Esteban On 06 Sep 2014, at 10:39, Mark Rizun <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Package of my project RewriteTool. > Here it is: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~MarkRizun/RewriteTool/packages/RewriteTool > > > 2014-09-06 11:33 GMT+03:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > which package? > > > On 06 Sep 2014, at 10:28, Mark Rizun <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi everyone! > > > > When loading a package via Monticello, while compiling methods it gives an > > error: > > Syntax Error: Cannot store into and then a method. > > What does it mean? > > > > Best, > > Mark > > > > > > > > -- > > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Syntax-Error-Cannot-store-into-tp4776675.html > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > >

Sept. 6, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Syntax Error: Cannot store into

by Mark Rizun

Package of my project RewriteTool. Here it is: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~MarkRizun/RewriteTool/packages/RewriteTool 2014-09-06 11:33 GMT+03:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > which package? > > > On 06 Sep 2014, at 10:28, Mark Rizun <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi everyone! > > > > When loading a package via Monticello, while compiling methods it gives > an > > error: > > Syntax Error: Cannot store into and then a method. > > What does it mean? > > > > Best, > > Mark > > > > > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Syntax-Error-Cannot-store-into-tp4776675.html > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > >

Sept. 6, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Syntax Error: Cannot store into

by Esteban Lorenzano

which package? On 06 Sep 2014, at 10:28, Mark Rizun <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi everyone! > > When loading a package via Monticello, while compiling methods it gives an > error: > Syntax Error: Cannot store into and then a method. > What does it mean? > > Best, > Mark > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Syntax-Error-Cannot-store-into-tp4776675.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Sept. 6, 2014

Syntax Error: Cannot store into

by Mark Rizun

Hi everyone! When loading a package via Monticello, while compiling methods it gives an error: Syntax Error: Cannot store into and then a method. What does it mean? Best, Mark -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Syntax-Error-Cannot-store-into-tp4776675.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 6, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] not a smalltalk!

by Esteban Lorenzano

no smalltalk around is âsmalltalkâ, technically they are all dialects and Pharo is just one dialect more. smalltalk-80 itself does not exist sinceâ¦ well, smalltalk-80 :) so no, your code would not be directly portable to other smalltalks (with the possible exception of gemstone). Esteban On 05 Sep 2014, at 20:25, Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh(a)kathe.in> wrote: > hey, i've just been reading up the pharo forums, and one of the posts/entries mentions something about pharo not being a smalltalk, but instead a dialect! > > is it true? > > that would mean, all or any code i write for pharo would not be portable to other smalltalk-80 systems! > > hmnn... > > ~mayuresh > >

Sept. 6, 2014