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Loading PetitParser loads a hell of a lot of things... is there a terser version?

by phil＠highoctane.be

I am loading PetitParser in my image but it takes a loooong time to load and below is what I see in my Jenkins console. Build for that step starts at 13:48:51 and ends at 14:03:15. Phew! Also a couple errors in loading examples. What is recommended to use to not have all of this? I just need the parser and tools to browse the grammars. [34m13:48:51 : --> loadPetitParser step starting Loading 1.6-baseline of ConfigurationOfPetitParser... Fetched -> ConfigurationOfGlamour-AndreiChis.158 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ Loaded -> ConfigurationOfGlamour-AndreiChis.158 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/CXP Frontend/workspace/package-cache Fetched -> PetitParser-JanKurs.247 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ Fetched -> PetitTests-JanKurs.59 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ Fetched -> PetitAnalyzer-DiegoLont.46 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ Fetched -> PetitSmalltalk-JanKurs.71 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ Fetched -> PetitCSV-tg.7 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ Fetched -> PetitJson-DamienCassou.8 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ Fetched -> PetitMSE-AndreHora.21 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ Fetched -> PetitManifestMf-tg.9 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ Fetched -> PetitRegex-JanKurs.29 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ Fetched -> PetitXml-JanKurs.36 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ Fetched -> PetitXPath-EstebanLorenzano.7 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ Fetched -> PetitIslands-JanKurs.9 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ Fetched -> Factorial-Language-lr.6 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ Project: Glamour development [2.91-baseline] Fetched -> ConfigurationOfGraphET-TudorGirba.8 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ObjectProfile/GraphET/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ObjectProfile/GraphET/main/ Loaded -> ConfigurationOfGraphET-TudorGirba.8 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ObjectProfile/GraphET/main/ --- /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/CXP Frontend/workspace/package-cache Fetched -> ConfigurationOfRubric-AndreiChis.7 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/AlainPlantec/Rubric/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/AlainPlantec/Rubric/main/ Loaded -> ConfigurationOfRubric-AndreiChis.7 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/AlainPlantec/Rubric/main/ --- /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/CXP Frontend/workspace/package-cache Fetched -> ConfigurationOfRoassal-StephaneDucasse.1195 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ObjectProfile/Roassal/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ObjectProfile/Roassal/main/ Loaded -> ConfigurationOfRoassal-StephaneDucasse.1195 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ObjectProfile/Roassal/main/ --- /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/CXP Frontend/workspace/package-cache Fetched -> Glamour-Announcements-TudorGirba.7 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ Fetched -> Glamour-Helpers-AndreiChis.35 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ Fetched -> Glamour-Core-AndreiChis.277 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ Fetched -> Glamour-Presentations-TudorGirba.157 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ Fetched -> Glamour-Browsers-TudorGirba.104 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ Fetched -> Glamour-Examples-StephanEggermont.284 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ Project: Roassal for Glamour development [0.7-baseline] Fetched -> Roassal-AlexandreBergel.759 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ObjectProfile/Roassal/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ObjectProfile/Roassal/main/ Fetched -> RoassalMorphic-AlexandreBergel.175 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ObjectProfile/Roassal/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ObjectProfile/Roassal/main/ Fetched -> RoassalExtras-AlexandreBergel.61 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ObjectProfile/Roassal/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ObjectProfile/Roassal/main/ Fetched -> RoassalAthens-VincentBlondeau.20 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ObjectProfile/Roassal/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ObjectProfile/Roassal/main/ Project: Graph-ET development [0.1-baseline] Fetched -> Graph-ET-TudorGirba.125 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ObjectProfile/GraphET/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ObjectProfile/GraphET/main/ Project: Roassal development [0.7-baseline] Project: Magritte3 development [3.1.5] Project: Grease release1.1 [1.1.11] Project: Seaside3 release3.1 [3.1.3] Project: Grease release1.1 [1.1.11] Project: Grease Core Tests release1.1 [1.1.11] Project: SPort2 2.34 Fetched -> FileSystem-Legacy-JohanBrichau.2 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/PharoExtras/FileSystemLegacy/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/PharoExtras/FileSystemLegacy/main/ Project: Zinc Project stable [2.5.3] Project: Grease Slime release1.1 [1.1.11] Fetched -> Magritte-Model-StephanEggermont.451 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Magritte/Magritte3/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Magritte/Magritte3/main/ Fetched -> Magritte-Morph-SeanDeNigris.86 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Magritte/Magritte3/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Magritte/Magritte3/main/ Fetched -> Magritte-Pharo3-Model-DiegoLont.3 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Magritte/Magritte3/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Magritte/Magritte3/main/ Project: Rubric 1.1 Fetched -> Rubric-AndreiChis.134 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/AlainPlantec/Rubric/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/AlainPlantec/Rubric/main/ Fetched -> Glamour-Rubric-Presentations-AndreiChis.20 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ Fetched -> Glamour-Morphic-Theme-AndreiChis.180 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ Fetched -> Glamour-Morphic-Widgets-AliakseiSyrel.126 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ Fetched -> Glamour-Morphic-Renderer-AndreiChis.269 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ Fetched -> Glamour-Morphic-Pager-AliakseiSyrel.67 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ Fetched -> CollectionExtensions-TudorGirba.40 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/CollectionExtensions/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/CollectionExtensions/main/ Fetched -> Glamour-Tools-AndreiChis.78 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ Fetched -> Glamour-GraphET-Presentations-TudorGirba.7 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ Fetched -> Glamour-Examples-Extras-AndreiChis.1 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ Fetched -> Glamour-Roassal-Presentations-AndreiChis.24 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ Fetched -> PetitGui-JanKurs.141 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ Starting atomic load GLMBasicExamples>>browserWithToolbar (GLMUIThemeExtraIcons is Undeclared) GLMBasicExamples>>morphIcons (GLMUIThemeExtraIcons is Undeclared) GLMBasicExamples>>multipleActions (GLMUIThemeExtraIcons is Undeclared) GLMBasicExamples>>populatePortAction (GLMUIThemeExtraIcons is Undeclared) GLMBasicExamples>>simplePager (GLMPager is Undeclared) GLMBasicExamples>>smalltalkCode (GLMUIThemeExtraIcons is Undeclared) GLMBasicExamples>>smalltalkCode (GLMUIThemeExtraIcons is Undeclared) GLMBasicExamples>>tableWithIcons (GLMUIThemeExtraIcons is Undeclared) GLMBasicExamples>>tableWithIcons (GLMUIThemeExtraIcons is Undeclared) GLMBasicExamples>>tabsWithDifferentActions (GLMUIThemeExtraIcons is Undeclared) GLMBasicExamples>>tabsWithDifferentActions (GLMUIThemeExtraIcons is Undeclared) GLMBasicExamples>>tabsWithDifferentLabels (GLMUIThemeExtraIcons is Undeclared) GLMBasicExamples>>treeWithMenu (GLMUIThemeExtraIcons is Undeclared) GLMBasicExamples>>updateableBrowser (GLMUIThemeExtraIcons is Undeclared) GLMBasicExamples>>updateableBrowser (GLMUIThemeExtraIcons is Undeclared) GLMBasicExamples>>updateableBrowser (GLMItemAdded is Undeclared) GLMBasicExamples>>updateableBrowser (GLMItemRemoved is Undeclared) GLMBasicExamples>>validatingPresentation (GLMItemRemoved is Undeclared) GLMBasicExamples>>validatingPresentation (GLMItemAdded is Undeclared) GLMBasicExamples>>validatingPresentation (GLMUIThemeExtraIcons is Undeclared) GLMBasicExamples>>validatingPresentation (GLMUIThemeExtraIcons is Undeclared) PPSmalltalkParser>>buildMethod:(pragma is shadowed) JavaParserTest>>createContext:(context is shadowed) JavaParserTest>>debug:rule:(context is shadowed) JavaParserTest>>parse:rule:(context is shadowed) PPMemoizingIslandTest>>testMemo(context is shadowed) GLMWizard>>initialize (scriptTransmission is Undeclared) GLMExamplesBrowser>>exampleIn: (GLMUIThemeExtraIcons is Undeclared) GLMSmalltalkCodePresentation>>defaultSelectionActions (GLMUIThemeExtraIcons is Undeclared) GLMSmalltalkCodePresentation>>defaultSelectionActions (GLMUIThemeExtraIcons is Undeclared) Loaded -> PetitParser-JanKurs.247 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ --- cache Loaded -> PetitTests-JanKurs.59 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ --- cache Loaded -> PetitAnalyzer-DiegoLont.46 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ --- cache Loaded -> PetitSmalltalk-JanKurs.71 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ --- cache Loaded -> PetitCSV-tg.7 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ --- cache Loaded -> PetitJson-DamienCassou.8 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ --- cache Loaded -> PetitMSE-AndreHora.21 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ --- cache Loaded -> PetitManifestMf-tg.9 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ --- cache Loaded -> PetitRegex-JanKurs.29 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ --- cache Loaded -> PetitXml-JanKurs.36 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ --- cache Loaded -> PetitXPath-EstebanLorenzano.7 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ --- cache Loaded -> PetitIslands-JanKurs.9 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ --- cache Loaded -> Factorial-Language-lr.6 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ --- cache Loaded -> Glamour-Announcements-TudorGirba.7 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- cache Loaded -> Glamour-Helpers-AndreiChis.35 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- cache Loaded -> Glamour-Core-AndreiChis.277 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- cache Loaded -> Glamour-Presentations-TudorGirba.157 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- cache Loaded -> Glamour-Browsers-TudorGirba.104 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- cache Loaded -> Glamour-Examples-StephanEggermont.284 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- cache Finished atomic load ROMondrianViewBuilderTest>>testFontSize(node is shadowed) ROMondrianViewBuilderTest>>testLabelText(node is shadowed) ROMondrianViewBuilderTest>>testRemoveNode(node is shadowed) ROTreeMapLayout class>>withWeightBlock:(layout is shadowed) Loaded -> Roassal-AlexandreBergel.759 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ObjectProfile/Roassal/main/ --- cache ROView>>bitmapForElements:(elementsToRender is shadowed) ROEaselMorphic>>showExamplesOnView: (ROTreeMapBuilderExample is Undeclared) Loaded -> RoassalMorphic-AlexandreBergel.175 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ObjectProfile/Roassal/main/ --- cache ROCountryMapBuilder>>example1 (GETDiagramBuilder is Undeclared) ROTreeMapBuilderExample>>collectionHierarchyTreeMapHighlightsOn: (WeakHashSet is Undeclared) ROTreeMapBuilderExample>>collectionHierarchyTreeMapHighlightsOn: (WeakKeyIdentityHashTable is Undeclared) ROTreeMapBuilderExample>>collectionHierarchyTreeMapHighlightsOn: (WeakKeyIdentityHashTable is Undeclared) SBSunburstBuilder>>radiusWithDepth:maxDepth:viewSize:(maxDepth is shadowed) SBSunburstBuilder>>strokeWithDepth:maxDepth:viewSize:arcRadius:(maxDepth is shadowed) SimilarityMatrix class>>demo3 (GTUtils is Undeclared) SimilarityMatrix class>>demo3 (GTUtils is Undeclared) Loaded -> RoassalExtras-AlexandreBergel.61 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ObjectProfile/Roassal/main/ --- cache Loaded -> RoassalAthens-VincentBlondeau.20 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ObjectProfile/Roassal/main/ --- cache Loaded -> Graph-ET-TudorGirba.125 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ObjectProfile/GraphET/main/ --- cache Loaded -> FileSystem-Legacy-JohanBrichau.2 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/PharoExtras/FileSystemLegacy/main/ --- /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/CXP Frontend/workspace/package-cache Loaded -> Magritte-Model-StephanEggermont.451 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Magritte/Magritte3/main/ --- cache Loaded -> Magritte-Morph-SeanDeNigris.86 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Magritte/Magritte3/main/ --- cache Loaded -> Magritte-Pharo3-Model-DiegoLont.3 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Magritte/Magritte3/main/ --- cache Starting atomic load RubSegmentMorph>>containsPoint: (borderWidth is Undeclared) RubSegmentMorph>>filledForm (borderColor is Undeclared) RubSegmentMorph>>filledForm (borderColor is Undeclared) RubSegmentMorph>>vertices:color:borderWidth:borderColor: (borderWidth is Undeclared) RubSegmentMorph>>vertices:color:borderWidth:borderColor: (borderColor is Undeclared) GLMBasicExamples>>updateableIndividualPresentations (GLMItemAdded is Undeclared) GLMBasicExamples>>updateableIndividualPresentations (GLMItemRemoved is Undeclared) GLMBasicExamples>>updateableIndividualPresentations (GLMItemAdded is Undeclared) GLMBasicExamples>>updateableIndividualPresentations (GLMItemRemoved is Undeclared) GLMBasicExamples>>updateableIndividualPresentations (GLMItemAdded is Undeclared) GLMBasicExamples>>updateableIndividualPresentations (GLMItemRemoved is Undeclared) GLMParameterizableExamplesBrowser>>compose(browser is shadowed) GLMMagrittePersonExample class>>sampleData (GLMAnnouncingCollection is Undeclared) GLMMorphicValidatorPaneRenderer>>buttonRowFrom:(buttons is shadowed) GLMMorphicWindowRenderer>>setLabelOf:for:(window is shadowed) Loaded -> Rubric-AndreiChis.134 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/AlainPlantec/Rubric/main/ --- cache Loaded -> Glamour-Rubric-Presentations-AndreiChis.20 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- cache Loaded -> Glamour-Morphic-Theme-AndreiChis.180 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- cache Loaded -> Glamour-Morphic-Widgets-AliakseiSyrel.126 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- cache Loaded -> Glamour-Morphic-Renderer-AndreiChis.269 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- cache Loaded -> Glamour-Morphic-Pager-AliakseiSyrel.67 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- cache Loaded -> CollectionExtensions-TudorGirba.40 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/CollectionExtensions/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/CollectionExtensions/main/ Loaded -> Glamour-Tools-AndreiChis.78 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- cache Loaded -> Glamour-GraphET-Presentations-TudorGirba.7 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- cache Loaded -> Glamour-Examples-Extras-AndreiChis.1 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- cache Loaded -> Glamour-Roassal-Presentations-AndreiChis.24 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Glamour/main/ --- cache Loaded -> PetitGui-JanKurs.141 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main/ --- cache Finished atomic load ...finished 1.6-baseline [34m14:03:15 : --> loadPetitParser step done Phil

Sept. 25, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Threaded callbacks with FFI

by phil＠highoctane.be

Le 25 sept. 2014 11:32, "Annick Fron" <list(a)afceurope.com> a Ã©crit : > > Hi, > > I am calling C from pharo with a callback, and it seems the callback is called in another thread. > I canât wrap the block in a process, because the return will be wrong, how can I do ??? > Can you send us sample code ? > Annick >

Sept. 25, 2014

Machine learning in Pharo?

by Martin Dias

Hi all, I'm playing with weka [1] for classifying data using data mining/machine learning. I'm really new on this field so I want to give you a concrete example of my use case to make it clear: I have elements that can be classified as true or false. In a training phase, I set up a bayesian network with elements that I manually classified. Then, I can use such network for predicting the classification of new elements. ---> my question is: Do we have a package for replacing weka-in-my-use-case in Pharo? It doesn't need to be exactly a bayesian network, it could be simpler. I looked a bit in Moose-Algos and in BioSmalltalk but I think they don't have what I need. I would appreciate any help. Cheers. MartÃn [1]: http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/ml/weka/

Sept. 25, 2014

Threaded callbacks with FFI

by Annick Fron

Hi, I am calling C from pharo with a callback, and it seems the callback is called in another thread. I canât wrap the block in a process, because the return will be wrong, how can I do ??? Annick

Sept. 25, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] What to use?

by Yuriy Tymchuk

There is a new Charter builder now. Itâs not very stable yet as far as I can tell, but itâs the future of charts in Roassal https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31543901/AgileVisualization/Charter/020… <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31543901/AgileVisualization/Charter/020…> Uko > On 25 Sep 2014, at 09:19, Friedrich Dominicus <frido(a)q-software-solutions.de> wrote: > > Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> writes: > >> probably GraphET >> >> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.566523986767536.1073741839.340543… > Thanks, that seems to be it > > Regards > Friedrich >

Sept. 25, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] What to use?

by Friedrich Dominicus

Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> writes: > probably GraphET > > https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.566523986767536.1073741839.340543… Thanks, that seems to be it Regards Friedrich

Sept. 25, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] What to use?

by Esteban Lorenzano

probably GraphET https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.566523986767536.1073741839.340543… On 25 Sep 2014, at 09:08, Friedrich Dominicus <frido(a)q-software-solutions.de> wrote: > If one is intersted in graphics of diverse functions? > > E.g plotting x^2,x^3 and the like. I checked the DrGeo stuff but that's > geometry and not just analysis of functions and the like? > > Does there exist something for that? > > Regards > Friedrich > >

Sept. 25, 2014

What to use?

by Friedrich Dominicus

If one is intersted in graphics of diverse functions? E.g plotting x^2,x^3 and the like. I checked the DrGeo stuff but that's geometry and not just analysis of functions and the like? Does there exist something for that? Regards Friedrich

Sept. 25, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Packaging Pharo for many distributions at once

by Christophe Demarey

Le 24 sept. 2014 Ã 18:51, Damien Cassou a Ã©crit : > On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Thierry Goubier > <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> All non-native package managers have that issue. > > > nix included I know ... That's why native packages are still interesting even if it's difficult to manage various package descriptions and build.

Sept. 25, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Ridiculous we are

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 25 Sep 2014, at 01:04, Alain Rastoul <alf.mmm.cat(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Le 25/09/2014 00:06, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : >> Alain, > >> The character encoding situation in Pharo is pretty good actually. The only problem is that there is some old school code left that encodes strings into strings, but today you can easily write much better and conceptually correct code. >> >> You could have a look at this draft chapter of the upcoming 'Enterprise Pharo' book that I am currently writing: >> >> http://stfx.eu/EnterprisePharo/Zinc-Encoding-Meta/ >> >> Concerning file system paths, FilePathEncoder and FilePluginPrimitives already do the right thing. >> >> Now, your idea about using UTF-8 to represent internal Strings is something that has been discussed before and in many other languages as well. The short answer is that due to it being variable length, the inefficiency is (probably) just too high. Simple indexed access becomes a problem, let alone more complex string manipulations. I am not saying that it cannot be done, I think it is just not worth the trouble. The current solution in Pharo with ByteString and WideString is quite nice (check the chapter I mentioned before). >> >> Sven >> > Very interesting ! > It seems that most of what I was saying is already here :) > I was not saying that Pharo should use utf8 (I mentionned utf8 because it is a standard, but I find the variable length encoding very weird), I was rather talking of using WideString in UTF 16 or 32 and that's done. > I saw asWideString but didn't know about automatic convertion or codepoint selector and internal wide string support. > Does it means that Pharo Greek users (for example) use WideString for Strings without having to specify it or make explicit convertions (except of course when dealing with bytes if they want to) ? > If yes, very good, job is almost done :) > (personnally I would also deprecate ByteString, and get rid of it, just my opinion). > Thanks for the link, another good chapter . > > Regards, > > Alain Yes, the Greek users won't notice a difference, it is all transparent. ByteString is important because it is an optimalization of the most common case. As a normal user you should only think of abstract Strings and never use #asByteString (but use proper encoding). Feedback on the chapter is always welcome. Sven

Sept. 25, 2014