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Re: [Pharo-users] Unicode support in Pharo

by Robert Shiplett

Must be a thing about European "guys" ... <quote> - ByteString is needed for most european/occidental people who don't care about internationalization and should stay because Pharo is an european/english based system , also not to break existing code (again will be transparent to most users for same reason). </unquote> Of all reasons to retain ByteString, let's hope this one is not listed, lest we appear ridiculous in our threads. r On 26 September 2014 18:22, Alain Rastoul <alf.mmm.cat(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Le 26/09/2014 20:47, stepharo a Ã©crit : > >> I'm not expert and I would like to know what people think. >> But I think that we should consider >> >> - the impact of spur new object format. I would like to have >> unicode and clean the leadChar >> >> Stef >> >> >> Just to start a new thread about that, because it deserves it > and also some people might appreciate :) > (was in: "Ridiculous we are"). > > I may not be the most qualified to state on that but I give my 2c > (this is a community isn't it ? please do not flame...) > > As Sven said, the situation is not so bad (quite good in fact): Pharo has > true unicode built-in support with WideString and encoders (great job, IMHO > this part of Zn components should be in the base system > or in an internationalization package not hidden in an htpp components > package). > - encoding support has to be in the system : ZnEncoders(?) for utf8, > unicode and other encoders for locale support because of existing system > basis, web (utf8) and internationalization. > - this will be transparent: Smalltalk is a typeless langage, one do not > have to specify String type (ByteString or WideString) > - Spur new character encoding is very interesting (in alpha stage now) and > will be transparent for the same reason (though I'm still wondering of the > 32bits/64 bits encoding on a 64 bits vm?). > - ByteString is needed for most european/occidental people who don't care > about internationalization and should stay because Pharo is an > european/english based system , also not to break existing code > (again will be transparent to most users for same reason). > - some parts of the system seems to be not "WideString/unicode aware" : > Pasting a Greek string in a workspace shows hieroglyphs (editors? morph?), > but GT Inspector display is ok. > Font plugin seems to require little work : uses fopen instead of _wfopen > (utf16 version) on windows and needs utf8 convertion on unix. > may be a check with File plugin (and other system related plugins) is also > needed? > > In short, some little additionnal work but a very good basis. > (but what is leadChar about?) > > Regards, > > Alain > > >

Sept. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] BLOG: Block Translators - parsing magic

by Udo Schneider

Hi Damien, I think the most important thing to start with is not to add content, > but to put the content you already have in > https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoForTheEnterprise-english. > You will have to use Pillar: > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessf… I did write the entry in Markdown - so converting it to Pillar shouldn't be a big deal. I'll start translating t now. Best Regards, Udo On 28.09.2014 11:08, Damien Cassou wrote: > Hi Udo, > > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Udo Schneider > <udo.schneider(a)homeaddress.de> wrote: >>> We could easily turn your blog into a chapter for a future book :) >> Wow! I didn't really expect that! But I'd happy to help any way I can. Maybe >> by adding some bits an pieces how to parse blocks with multiple expressions? > > > I think the most important thing to start with is not to add content, > but to put the content you already have in > https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoForTheEnterprise-english. > You will have to use Pillar: > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessf… >

Sept. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Versioneer. nice. mmMmmm...

by Christophe Demarey

Hi Ben, Le 22 sept. 2014 Ã 18:23, Ben Coman a Ã©crit : > > While I had done the Versioneer tutorial some time ago, I had some inertial problem using it in anger. Now I'm happy to report using it just now to update the ConfigurationOfPharoLauncher was simple and smooth - which is great since I've never done a Configuration by hand. I thought it would be useful for others to see how simple it was... > > 1. Loaded latest ConfigurationOfPharoLauncher. > 2. Loaded and tested newer PharoLauncher packages. > > 3. Opened World > Tools > Versioneer. > 4. Selected PharoLauncher and <Open Project>. > 5. Selected "development" list item. > 6. Clicked <Release Version> and <Ok> to accept auto increment of version number. > 7. Clicked <Commit the project> > Now there is an updated ConfigurationOfPharoLauncher in its Smalltalkhub repository. > > Easy with Versioneer. mmMmmmm. nice. shiny..... > cheers -ben I'm happy to see that this tool is useful. Still improvable on many points but helps a lot for basic tasks. Christophe

Sept. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Request for adding Smalltalk syntax highlight in SE network

by Alexandre Bergel

Okâ¦ Alexandre On Sep 29, 2014, at 8:55 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: > >> On 29 Sep 2014, at 17:50, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >> >> Just wondering, what is âSE networkâ? > > Probably Stack Exchange > >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> >> >> On Sep 29, 2014, at 4:49 AM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: >> >>> Voted >>> >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Sept. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Request for adding Smalltalk syntax highlight in SE network

by Yuriy Tymchuk

> On 29 Sep 2014, at 17:50, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > > Just wondering, what is âSE networkâ? Probably Stack Exchange > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > > On Sep 29, 2014, at 4:49 AM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > >> Voted >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > >

Sept. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Request for adding Smalltalk syntax highlight in SE network

by Alexandre Bergel

Just wondering, what is âSE networkâ? Cheers, Alexandre On Sep 29, 2014, at 4:49 AM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > Voted > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Sept. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Request for adding Smalltalk syntax highlight in SE network

by Thushar G R

done On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > Voted > >

Sept. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Request for adding Smalltalk syntax highlight in SE network

by Stephan Eggermont

Voted

Sept. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 32 bits

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

This is on a 32-bit Ubuntu 13.10 $ uname -a Linux stfx 3.8.0-19-generic #30-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 1 16:36:13 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux $ curl get.pharo.org/30+vm | bash % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed 100 2885 100 2885 0 0 19171 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 19233 Downloading the latest 30 Image: http://files.pharo.org/image/30/latest.zip Pharo.image Downloading the latest pharoVM: http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/linux/stable.zip pharo-vm/pharo Downloading PharoV10.sources: http://files.pharo.org/sources//PharoV10.sources.zip Downloading PharoV20.sources: http://files.pharo.org/sources//PharoV20.sources.zip Downloading PharoV30.sources: http://files.pharo.org/sources//PharoV30.sources.zip Creating starter scripts pharo and pharo-ui $ file pharo-vm/pharo pharo-vm/pharo: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.24, BuildID[sha1]=0xd88118f34ce96590cabfada3172b5f153b92e88e, not stripped On 29 Sep 2014, at 13:01, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > AFAIK the Pharo VM *is* 32-bit. > > On 29 Sep 2014, at 12:57, Annick Fron <list(a)afceurope.com> wrote: > >> Is it possible to download a 32 bits linux pharo vm ? >> >> Annick >> >

Sept. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 32 bits

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

AFAIK the Pharo VM *is* 32-bit. On 29 Sep 2014, at 12:57, Annick Fron <list(a)afceurope.com> wrote: > Is it possible to download a 32 bits linux pharo vm ? > > Annick >

Sept. 29, 2014