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Re: [Pharo-users] Scratch in Flash or Phratch?

by stepharo

>> Alas, although I live on Reunion Island since 25 years, I don't speak >> Creole. But the creole language in Scratch has been written by people >> from Quebec (!). And was incomplete yet funny. I miss it... > Engage your students! > Turn it as a challenge for your students to contribute to a big project > and translate in Creole! > The .po file can be cutted in several chunks. It could be fun once they > use pratch in Creole. +1

Oct. 12, 2014

Artefact documentation is now in english

by stepharo

Hi guys I finished the translation of the chapter on Artefact the pdf generator library developed by O. Auverlot and G. Larcheveque. https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoForTheEnterprise/lastSucces… Stef

Oct. 12, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Scratch in Flash or Phratch?

by Hilaire

Le 12/10/2014 16:12, Alain Busser a Ã©crit : > Alas, although I live on Reunion Island since 25 years, I don't speak > Creole. But the creole language in Scratch has been written by people > from Quebec (!). And was incomplete yet funny. I miss it... Engage your students! Turn it as a challenge for your students to contribute to a big project and translate in Creole! The .po file can be cutted in several chunks. It could be fun once they use pratch in Creole. Hilaire -- Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu iStoa - http://istoa.drgeo.eu

Oct. 12, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] About Zinc http components

by Alain Rastoul

(I thought I already responded , and rereading all just saw I did not, I think I did enregistrer and closed no send, sorry) Thank you for the update, I 'll have a look at that too. It does not goes exactly the same way I will, and the slideshare presentation looks a bit scary ... Die socket Die ! ? :) but interesting, I often go to look esug presentations and never saw this one (lot of things to investigate too). Since yesterday, thinking about your advice (small steps) and Phil's question about my experiments I went to the conclusion that I have to publish a small project abut my ramblings on smalltalkhub, a good way to start, but kind some work to clean the bazard :) Le 11/10/2014 08:41, stepharo a Ã©crit : > Nick Papoulias developed Seamless because he could not fix rST (but he > oversold Seamless a bit) and I asked him to > do a pass on Seamless and write a documentation. > > Stef > > > > On 7/10/14 23:08, Alain Rastoul wrote: >> This is another subject and another functionality I will need too. >> >> The Rst link is of interest (thank you Denis) , I was thinking >> of sending command objects with Fuel as all images will have the same >> classes and performance is not very important here. >> I was able to load RST in Pharo3, but did not made any test yet. >> Does it works with Pharo ? >> >> @SKrish you are right, but I want to keep as simple as possible at the >> beginning and tcpip should fit for a start. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Alain >> >> >> Le 07/10/2014 21:40, S Krish a Ã©crit : >>> >>> Typical issue in the EJB world : Remote Beans / Local Beans , though on >>> inter process it was remote beans with its full stack RMI marshalling / >>> unmarshalling. >>> >>> But can we not exploit shared memory and efficient Event mechanism to >>> make the two process coordinate, that should be lot more efficient than >>> TCP - IP / but if that performance suffices it would be fine.. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 4:40 AM, Alain Rastoul >>> <alf.mmm.cat(a)gmail.com >>> <mailto:alf.mmm.cat@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> I played a bit with ZnServer and other zinc components and have >>> a question I can't answer myself (googling a bit didn't help >>> neither), >>> and I'm seeking for advice: does it makes sense to use a >>> ZnServer/ZnWebSocket >>> as a mechanism to transfer data between two pharo processes - in my >>> case 8k ByteArray blocks ? >>> Or is it a total non sense ? is it reliable ? >>> First tests looks good : 18k blocks / second (145 Mb/s) on a laptop >>> core i5 2.6Ghz. >>> >>> All comments and suggestions welcome >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> >>> Alain >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > >

Oct. 12, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Scratch in Flash or Phratch?

by Alain Busser

Alas, although I live on Reunion Island since 25 years, I don't speak Creole. But the creole language in Scratch has been written by people from Quebec (!). And was incomplete yet funny. I miss it... Anyway thanks, I can work with Phratch in French without having to install anything (I don't have the admin rights) Alain On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 4:01 PM, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Alain, > > Yes, Phratch is in french (almost all blocks are translated). > As I don't speak creole, I cannot do it. > > If you can do it, just take te attached file and replace all the french > sentences by creole ones. > Then, send me the file, I would be happy to integrate it in the release. > > Cheers, > Jannik > > > 2014-10-12 14:12 GMT+02:00 stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr>: > >> ask jannik directly. >> >> Stef >> >> On 12/10/14 08:03, Alain Busser wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I must present Scratch to my pupils on Tuesday, and I want to show to >>> them the French and Creole versions. But Scratch is not programmed in >>> Squeak anymore. Rather, it is in Flash. Hence my question: Is there a >>> French version of Phratch? And will there be a creole version before >>> tuesday? >>> >>> The advantage of Pharo is that it doesn't need an installation and I can >>> share it easily with the pupils. >>> >>> Alain >>> >> >> >> > > > -- > > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Ãcole des Mines de Douai > Enseignant-chercheur > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://www.phratch.com > http://www.approchealpes.info > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >

Oct. 12, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Scratch in Flash or Phratch?

by jannik laval

Hi Alain, Yes, Phratch is in french (almost all blocks are translated). As I don't speak creole, I cannot do it. If you can do it, just take te attached file and replace all the french sentences by creole ones. Then, send me the file, I would be happy to integrate it in the release. Cheers, Jannik 2014-10-12 14:12 GMT+02:00 stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr>: > ask jannik directly. > > Stef > > On 12/10/14 08:03, Alain Busser wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I must present Scratch to my pupils on Tuesday, and I want to show to >> them the French and Creole versions. But Scratch is not programmed in >> Squeak anymore. Rather, it is in Flash. Hence my question: Is there a >> French version of Phratch? And will there be a creole version before >> tuesday? >> >> The advantage of Pharo is that it doesn't need an installation and I can >> share it easily with the pupils. >> >> Alain >> > > > -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/

Oct. 12, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Scratch in Flash or Phratch?

by kilon alios

have you tried Phratch ? it has French in its language menu (the globe icon). Dont know about Creole. On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 3:12 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > ask jannik directly. > > Stef > > On 12/10/14 08:03, Alain Busser wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I must present Scratch to my pupils on Tuesday, and I want to show to >> them the French and Creole versions. But Scratch is not programmed in >> Squeak anymore. Rather, it is in Flash. Hence my question: Is there a >> French version of Phratch? And will there be a creole version before >> tuesday? >> >> The advantage of Pharo is that it doesn't need an installation and I can >> share it easily with the pupils. >> >> Alain >> > > >

Oct. 12, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Scratch in Flash or Phratch?

by stepharo

ask jannik directly. Stef On 12/10/14 08:03, Alain Busser wrote: > Hello, > > I must present Scratch to my pupils on Tuesday, and I want to show to > them the French and Creole versions. But Scratch is not programmed in > Squeak anymore. Rather, it is in Flash. Hence my question: Is there a > French version of Phratch? And will there be a creole version before > tuesday? > > The advantage of Pharo is that it doesn't need an installation and I > can share it easily with the pupils. > > Alain

Oct. 12, 2014

Scratch in Flash or Phratch?

by Alain Busser

Hello, I must present Scratch to my pupils on Tuesday, and I want to show to them the French and Creole versions. But Scratch is not programmed in Squeak anymore. Rather, it is in Flash. Hence my question: Is there a French version of Phratch? And will there be a creole version before tuesday? The advantage of Pharo is that it doesn't need an installation and I can share it easily with the pupils. Alain

Oct. 12, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] About Zinc http components

by Alain Rastoul

Le 11/10/2014 13:44, Alain Rastoul a Ã©crit : One missing (but probably important precision if you try it) I forgot: the workspaces are executed in two different pharo processes (vm) of course. > Hi Phil, > > Yes, multi core support and communication is important, having that in > pharo could be great. > > Unfortunately, no I actually have no usable project for that, mine is not > a communication project and still really in pre-alpha stage. > > For now, I'm starting with Zinc, 0mq is just from a prospective eye. > I have no experience with 0mq, I discovered it just few days ago > (see Marten's messages), but it seemsto be easy to use. > What I did is just read the echo server sample, > and threw few lines in a workspace to see how it works (here modified to > send/receive 8k pages instead of echoing the message). > I am also interested in something more elaborate , as I will probably > use it later, > I will think about a simple test project (the workspace here is just > a very first experiment) and see what I can do. > The bindings are FFI, may be it should be rewritten/modified to use > native boost > (I know only the name here). > > If you want to look here it is, it's very basic and only the REQ/REP > pattern > (not sure the other works, I tried but the vm hanged, may be my fault, > may be it also requires more work). > You have to load Panu 0mq bindings before and put a zmq.dll in your path. > > > The server (kill the server with Process browser to stop it) > "====================================== classic sockets - REQ/REP server" > [ | context serverSocket request count | > [ count := 0 . > context := ZmqContext new . > serverSocket := ZmqResponseSocket new. > serverSocket bind: 'tcp://*:5555' . > [ true] > whileTrue: > [ request := serverSocket receive . "fake request" > serverSocket send: (ByteArray new: 8*1024 ). "block > response" > count := count+1 ]. > ] ensure: > [ serverSocket close. > ('server exited -', count asString, ' pages sent ') explore ] > ] forkAt: Processor "systemBackgroundPriority" userBackgroundPriority > "lowIOPriority hangs" . > > The client (5 sec bench of request/reply) : > "======================================== classic sockets - REQ/REP client" > [ | context socket response count bench | > [ context := ZmqContext new . > socket := ZmqRequestSocket new. > count := 0. > socket connect: 'tcp://127.0.0.1:5555' . > bench := [ socket send: 'get xxx' asByteArray . "fake request" > response := socket receive . > count := count + 1 ] bench . > ] ensure: [ > socket close. > bench explore. > ('client asked for ',count asString) explore ] > ] forkAt: Processor userBackgroundPriority "lowIOPriority" . > > > Le 11/10/2014 12:31, phil(a)highoctane.be a Ã©crit : >> Alain,â >> >> Yes, 0mq seems to be a good way to go as there is just more support >> across the board. >> >> Have you a project on Smalltalkhub (or elsewhere) with your experiments >> so that I could have a look? >> I've updated the 0MQ bindings page to list the smalltalkhub pharo client >> and also had a look at what was in the GST client. >> >> It would be nice to port the GST code to Pharo so that we would have a >> nice package. >> >> 0mq could help with the multicore support very nicely. We are going to >> use SDL for low level, why not go 0mq for interimage communication? It >> makes sense to me. >> >> Phil > > > >

Oct. 11, 2014