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Re: [Pharo-users] Alternate browser

by phil＠highoctane.be

Doc at the bottom of the right pane would be nice. Phil Le 29 nov. 2014 11:43, "Thierry Goubier" <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > Le 29/11/2014 11:29, phil(a)highoctane.be a Ã©crit : > >> I have been using AltBrowser for a test. >> >> Some feedback >> >> - I like to see doc with my code so having to click back and forth is >> annoying and not conductive to writing class comments. >> > > Good point. I wondered about having multiple text panes on the right > (linked to multi-selection in the tree, such as selecting a comment + a > method) but I decided against it on pure lazyness excuses (fear of code > complexity / unable to see a simple way of doing it / able to get along > without it). > > Given the size of the text pane on the right, it seems we could do a lot > with it. > > But I have a feeling that having the start of a method allways at the same > place (in the window) is significant. > > A "auto-appearing" comment pane at the bottom? > > - I got a couple freezes >> > > Interesting. If you find a way to reproduce them, I'll be happy. > > - I wonder how to get back to Nautilus. It would be nice to be able to >> use both. >> > > Nautilus is still there. You can open one (PackageTreeNautilus open), but, > yes, it could be nice to unregister AltBrowser. Wait, I think there is a > settings option... > > Thierry > > >> Phil >> >> Le 29 nov. 2014 10:40, "Thierry Goubier" <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com >> <mailto:thierry.goubier@gmail.com>> a Ã©crit : >> >> Le 29/11/2014 10:06, Hilaire a Ã©crit : >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/__filters/?fClosedBugs=true&__ >> ixPersonOpenedBy=194&sColumns=__Category-Favorite-Case-__ >> TitleComment-Status-Priority-__LastUpdated&sSearchFor=__ >> nautilus&sView=grid-flat >> <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/filters/?fClosedBugs=true& >> ixPersonOpenedBy=194&sColumns=Category-Favorite-Case- >> TitleComment-Status-Priority-LastUpdated&sSearchFor= >> nautilus&sView=grid-flat> >> >> >> Is that just me or is your filter/link not working? >> >> Don't hesitate to voice your feelings even if they don't fit within >> bug reports. The fact you're writing this is a kind of report ;) >> >> Making powerfull things simple is complex >> >> Thierry >> >> Le 29/11/2014 08:53, stepharo a Ã©crit : >> >> where? >> >> Le 28/11/14 21:30, Hilaire a Ã©crit : >> >> Le 28/11/2014 08:07, Marcus Denker a Ã©crit : >> >> It is unstable with me. It is really feature >> complete, it is nice, >> but I >> >> may use wrongly. >> May be with a simpler one I will do less >> mistake. >> >> If nobody reports and fixes problems, they will stay >> forever. >> >> Reported, they are. >> >> Hilaire >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >

Nov. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Alternate browser

by stepharo

Merci Le 29/11/14 10:06, Hilaire a Ã©crit : > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/filters/?fClosedBugs=true&ixPersonOpenedBy=194&… > > Le 29/11/2014 08:53, stepharo a Ã©crit : >> where? >> >> Le 28/11/14 21:30, Hilaire a Ã©crit : >>> Le 28/11/2014 08:07, Marcus Denker a Ã©crit : >>>>> It is unstable with me. It is really feature complete, it is nice, >>>>> but I >>>>>> may use wrongly. >>>>>> May be with a simpler one I will do less mistake. >>>>>> >>>> If nobody reports and fixes problems, they will stay forever. >>> Reported, they are. >>> >>> Hilaire >>> >> >> >

Nov. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Alternate browser

by Thierry Goubier

Le 29/11/2014 11:29, phil(a)highoctane.be a Ã©crit : > I have been using AltBrowser for a test. > > Some feedback > > - I like to see doc with my code so having to click back and forth is > annoying and not conductive to writing class comments. Good point. I wondered about having multiple text panes on the right (linked to multi-selection in the tree, such as selecting a comment + a method) but I decided against it on pure lazyness excuses (fear of code complexity / unable to see a simple way of doing it / able to get along without it). Given the size of the text pane on the right, it seems we could do a lot with it. But I have a feeling that having the start of a method allways at the same place (in the window) is significant. A "auto-appearing" comment pane at the bottom? > - I got a couple freezes Interesting. If you find a way to reproduce them, I'll be happy. > - I wonder how to get back to Nautilus. It would be nice to be able to > use both. Nautilus is still there. You can open one (PackageTreeNautilus open), but, yes, it could be nice to unregister AltBrowser. Wait, I think there is a settings option... Thierry > > Phil > > Le 29 nov. 2014 10:40, "Thierry Goubier" <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com > <mailto:thierry.goubier@gmail.com>> a Ã©crit : > > Le 29/11/2014 10:06, Hilaire a Ã©crit : > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/__filters/?fClosedBugs=true&__ixPersonOpenedBy=… > <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/filters/?fClosedBugs=true&ixPersonOpenedBy=194&…> > > > Is that just me or is your filter/link not working? > > Don't hesitate to voice your feelings even if they don't fit within > bug reports. The fact you're writing this is a kind of report ;) > > Making powerfull things simple is complex > > Thierry > > Le 29/11/2014 08:53, stepharo a Ã©crit : > > where? > > Le 28/11/14 21:30, Hilaire a Ã©crit : > > Le 28/11/2014 08:07, Marcus Denker a Ã©crit : > > It is unstable with me. It is really feature > complete, it is nice, > but I > > may use wrongly. > May be with a simpler one I will do less > mistake. > > If nobody reports and fixes problems, they will stay > forever. > > Reported, they are. > > Hilaire > > > > > > > > >

Nov. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Alternate browser

by kilon alios

"- I wonder how to get back to Nautilus. It would be nice to be able to use both." thats an annoyance for me too, I would like to be given the option to choose what browser I want to use depending on the situation. Also your comment on the comments is a valid one, I think we need a more dynamic browser in general which currently Pharo lacks, that does not try to choose for us how to do coding and instead gives us the choices . Of course dynamic browsers are more effort.

Nov. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Alternate browser

by phil＠highoctane.be

I have been using AltBrowser for a test. Some feedback - I like to see doc with my code so having to click back and forth is annoying and not conductive to writing class comments. - I got a couple freezes - I wonder how to get back to Nautilus. It would be nice to be able to use both. Phil Le 29 nov. 2014 10:40, "Thierry Goubier" <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > Le 29/11/2014 10:06, Hilaire a Ã©crit : > >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/filters/?fClosedBugs=true& >> ixPersonOpenedBy=194&sColumns=Category-Favorite-Case- >> TitleComment-Status-Priority-LastUpdated&sSearchFor= >> nautilus&sView=grid-flat >> > > Is that just me or is your filter/link not working? > > Don't hesitate to voice your feelings even if they don't fit within bug > reports. The fact you're writing this is a kind of report ;) > > Making powerfull things simple is complex > > Thierry > > Le 29/11/2014 08:53, stepharo a Ã©crit : >> >>> where? >>> >>> Le 28/11/14 21:30, Hilaire a Ã©crit : >>> >>>> Le 28/11/2014 08:07, Marcus Denker a Ã©crit : >>>> >>>>> It is unstable with me. It is really feature complete, it is nice, >>>>>> but I >>>>>> >>>>>>> may use wrongly. >>>>>>> May be with a simpler one I will do less mistake. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If nobody reports and fixes problems, they will stay forever. >>>>> >>>> Reported, they are. >>>> >>>> Hilaire >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > >

Nov. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Alternate browser

by Thierry Goubier

Le 29/11/2014 10:06, Hilaire a Ã©crit : > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/filters/?fClosedBugs=true&ixPersonOpenedBy=194&… Is that just me or is your filter/link not working? Don't hesitate to voice your feelings even if they don't fit within bug reports. The fact you're writing this is a kind of report ;) Making powerfull things simple is complex Thierry > Le 29/11/2014 08:53, stepharo a Ã©crit : >> where? >> >> Le 28/11/14 21:30, Hilaire a Ã©crit : >>> Le 28/11/2014 08:07, Marcus Denker a Ã©crit : >>>>> It is unstable with me. It is really feature complete, it is nice, >>>>> but I >>>>>> may use wrongly. >>>>>> May be with a simpler one I will do less mistake. >>>>>> >>>> If nobody reports and fixes problems, they will stay forever. >>> Reported, they are. >>> >>> Hilaire >>> >> >> >> > >

Nov. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Alternate browser

by Hilaire

https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/filters/?fClosedBugs=true&ixPersonOpenedBy=194&… Le 29/11/2014 08:53, stepharo a Ã©crit : > where? > > Le 28/11/14 21:30, Hilaire a Ã©crit : >> Le 28/11/2014 08:07, Marcus Denker a Ã©crit : >>>> It is unstable with me. It is really feature complete, it is nice, >>>> but I >>>>> may use wrongly. >>>>> May be with a simpler one I will do less mistake. >>>>> >>> If nobody reports and fixes problems, they will stay forever. >> Reported, they are. >> >> Hilaire >> > > > -- Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu iStoa - http://istoa.drgeo.eu

Nov. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Alternate browser

by stepharo

where? Le 28/11/14 21:30, Hilaire a Ã©crit : > Le 28/11/2014 08:07, Marcus Denker a Ã©crit : >>> It is unstable with me. It is really feature complete, it is nice, but I >>>> may use wrongly. >>>> May be with a simpler one I will do less mistake. >>>> >> If nobody reports and fixes problems, they will stay forever. > Reported, they are. > > Hilaire >

Nov. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Alternate browser

by Hilaire

Le 28/11/2014 08:07, Marcus Denker a Ã©crit : >> It is unstable with me. It is really feature complete, it is nice, but I >> > may use wrongly. >> > May be with a simpler one I will do less mistake. >> > > If nobody reports and fixes problems, they will stay forever. Reported, they are. Hilaire -- Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu iStoa - http://istoa.drgeo.eu

Nov. 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Alternate browser

by Marcus Denker

> On 27 Nov 2014, at 22:25, Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu> wrote: > > Le 27/11/2014 08:03, stepharo a Ã©crit : >> >> Le 26/11/14 21:30, Hilaire a Ã©crit : >>> Hello, >>> >>> Do we have an installable browser for Pharo, simple but reliable as was >>> Browser? >> What is the problem that you have with the current one? > > > It is unstable with me. It is really feature complete, it is nice, but I > may use wrongly. > May be with a simpler one I will do less mistake. > If nobody reports and fixes problems, they will stay forever. Marcus

Nov. 28, 2014