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Re: [Pharo-users] Morphic and Polymorph benchmarks

by stepharo

Alain did some benchmarks (have a look at Bloc examples). One example was 10000 morph in a layout to compare between bloc and morphic. Stef Le 12/12/14 20:30, Juan Pablo Sandoval a Ã©crit : > Hi, > > I am trying to do some performance analysis over Morphic and Polymorph. > > - Are there some interesting benchmarks for Morphic and Polymorph? > > Thanks, > Juampi > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Morphic-and-Polymorph-benchmarks-tp4795787.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Dec. 12, 2014

Morphic and Polymorph benchmarks

by Juan Pablo Sandoval

Hi, I am trying to do some performance analysis over Morphic and Polymorph. - Are there some interesting benchmarks for Morphic and Polymorph? Thanks, Juampi -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Morphic-and-Polymorph-benchmarks-tp4795787.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 12, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Roassal HTML exporter

by Esteban A. Maringolo

Excellent! El Fri Dec 12 2014 at 2:45:03 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> escribiÃ³: > First, I need to incorporate your OpenStreetMap bidding into Roassal. This > is on my todo list and I will work on this. This is highly important for > Roassal. > > Second, I have the impression that we will need a kind of JavaScript > template for this OSM integration. We will have a look at this. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > On Dec 12, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi Alexandre, > > this is great. There is a bit of javascript magic going in there, isn't it? > > (<script type="text/javascript" src="RODraggingAndUtil.js"></script>) > > When adding some specific support such as the OpenStreetMap data, there is > a bit of work to do to extend it? Or would it consider it as a bitmap? > > Thanks, > > Thierry > > > 2014-12-12 0:20 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: > >> Hi! >> >> We have worked very hard on a Roassal exporter for the Web. >> >> Milton has produced the class RTHTML5Exporter, which may be simply >> invoked as: RTHTML5Exporter new export: aRoassalView. >> >> Check this out: >> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31543901/RoassalHTML/index.html >> >> Try moving the mouse above the circle or dots in the curve. >> >> The html file you see from your web browser is the result of do-iting the >> following expression: >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> | c b c2 | >> c := RTComposer new. >> >> "======" >> b := RTGraphBuilder new. >> b view: c view. >> b edges >> connectFrom: #superclass; >> useInLayout. >> >> b edges >> if: [ :fromClass :toClass | toClass name beginsWith: 'TR' ]; >> connectTo: #dependentClasses; >> color: (Color blue alpha: 0.3). >> >> >> b nodes >> if: [ :cls | cls name beginsWith: 'RT' ]; >> color: Color blue. >> b nodes >> color: Color red. >> b layout cluster. >> >> b global >> normalizeSize: #numberOfMethods min: 5 max: 40 using: #sqrt; >> alphaColor: 0.4. >> >> b addAll: TRShape withAllSubclasses, RTShape withAllSubclasses. >> >> b build. >> c group. >> >> "======" >> c2 := RTCharterBuilder new. >> c2 view: c view. >> >> c2 interaction popup. >> c2 extent: 300 @ 200. >> c2 points: (RTShape withAllSubclasses sortedAs: #numberOfMethods). >> c2 connectDotColor: Color blue. >> >> c2 points: (TRShape withAllSubclasses sortedAs: #numberOfMethods). >> c2 stackX. >> c2 allY: #numberOfMethods. >> c2 connectDotColor: Color red. >> >> c2 axisX. >> c2 axisY. >> c2 build. >> c group. >> "======" >> >> c layout: RTVerticalLineLayout new. >> c propagateHighlightToAll. >> "======" >> >> legend := RTLegendBuilder new. >> legend view: c view. >> legend addText: 'This is a demonsration of a combination of builders'. >> legend addText: 'The above visualization shows the dependencies between >> Roassal and Trachel shapes.'. >> legend addText: 'Curves indicate the distribution of the number of >> methods'. >> legend build. >> "======" >> >> RTHTML5Exporter new export: c view. >> c view >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> > >

Dec. 12, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Roassal HTML exporter

by Alexandre Bergel

First, I need to incorporate your OpenStreetMap bidding into Roassal. This is on my todo list and I will work on this. This is highly important for Roassal. Second, I have the impression that we will need a kind of JavaScript template for this OSM integration. We will have a look at this. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > On Dec 12, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Alexandre, > > this is great. There is a bit of javascript magic going in there, isn't it? > > (<script type="text/javascript" src="RODraggingAndUtil.js"></script>) > > When adding some specific support such as the OpenStreetMap data, there is a bit of work to do to extend it? Or would it consider it as a bitmap? > > Thanks, > > Thierry > > > 2014-12-12 0:20 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com <mailto:alexandre.bergel@me.com>>: > Hi! > > We have worked very hard on a Roassal exporter for the Web. > > Milton has produced the class RTHTML5Exporter, which may be simply invoked as: RTHTML5Exporter new export: aRoassalView. > > Check this out: > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31543901/RoassalHTML/index.html <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31543901/RoassalHTML/index.html> > > Try moving the mouse above the circle or dots in the curve. > > The html file you see from your web browser is the result of do-iting the following expression: > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > | c b c2 | > c := RTComposer new. > > "======" > b := RTGraphBuilder new. > b view: c view. > b edges > connectFrom: #superclass; > useInLayout. > > b edges > if: [ :fromClass :toClass | toClass name beginsWith: 'TR' ]; > connectTo: #dependentClasses; > color: (Color blue alpha: 0.3). > > > b nodes > if: [ :cls | cls name beginsWith: 'RT' ]; > color: Color blue. > b nodes > color: Color red. > b layout cluster. > > b global > normalizeSize: #numberOfMethods min: 5 max: 40 using: #sqrt; > alphaColor: 0.4. > > b addAll: TRShape withAllSubclasses, RTShape withAllSubclasses. > > b build. > c group. > > "======" > c2 := RTCharterBuilder new. > c2 view: c view. > > c2 interaction popup. > c2 extent: 300 @ 200. > c2 points: (RTShape withAllSubclasses sortedAs: #numberOfMethods). > c2 connectDotColor: Color blue. > > c2 points: (TRShape withAllSubclasses sortedAs: #numberOfMethods). > c2 stackX. > c2 allY: #numberOfMethods. > c2 connectDotColor: Color red. > > c2 axisX. > c2 axisY. > c2 build. > c group. > "======" > > c layout: RTVerticalLineLayout new. > c propagateHighlightToAll. > "======" > > legend := RTLegendBuilder new. > legend view: c view. > legend addText: 'This is a demonsration of a combination of builders'. > legend addText: 'The above visualization shows the dependencies between Roassal and Trachel shapes.'. > legend addText: 'Curves indicate the distribution of the number of methods'. > legend build. > "======" > > RTHTML5Exporter new export: c view. > c view > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu <http://www.bergel.eu/> > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > >

Dec. 12, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] how do you use scripts?

by Thierry Goubier

Le 12/12/2014 12:14, Tudor Girba a Ã©crit : > Hi, > > As input for designing new features that better support scripting in > Pharo, we would benefit from a bit more input around the role scripts > play in your development life. Really not much. > To this end, I would like to invite you to share your scripting > experience. Here are some questions to start from, but feel free to diverge: > > - What kind of actions do you put in scripts? Short, tentative, draft experiments (i.e. tentative unit tests). > - Do you rely on script files stored on the disk at all? No. > - Where do you store your scripts (in one folder, in many folders)? NA > - Do you version your scripts? No. > - Do you store them in separate files with dedicated names, or tend to > put multiple snippets in one larger file? NA. > - Do you rely on the names of the scripts? No. > - Why do you use a script file and not a class? As soon as the code is more than a tentative draft, I move it to a class. If I ask scripting like tasks to students, I ask them to do it in a class, not as a set of scripts ;) Unless you count Makefiles as scripting... In which case they happen outside the Pharo world. All in all, I would hate having to explain (to students or co-workers?) intricaties of scripts files saved to disk, versionned in a different way than the rest of the code, with different menus and code search uses. I also very regularly erase and rebuilt my pharo repositories, so anything not saved in a Monticello repository is lost. Thierry

Dec. 12, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] how do you use scripts?

by Alain Busser

For me, a script is an example for MathsOntologie, which is what I want to run when copied in the Workspace then Alt-D-ed. I distribute them with MathsOntologie and they are not versioned. I have ont script per file, all the scripts are grouped in an "exeamples" folder on disk, but I can not always open them because of utf-8 characters which are not correctly imported. Every file has a name recalling the script. I don't use "example" objects because I never thought about it (so, thanks for the idea). But if I knew how to incorporate MathsOntologie inside DrGeo I would use Hilaire's way of storing the examples of course... Alain On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > As input for designing new features that better support scripting in > Pharo, we would benefit from a bit more input around the role scripts play > in your development life. > > To this end, I would like to invite you to share your scripting > experience. Here are some questions to start from, but feel free to diverge: > > - What kind of actions do you put in scripts? > > - Do you rely on script files stored on the disk at all? > > - Where do you store your scripts (in one folder, in many folders)? > > - Do you version your scripts? > > - Do you store them in separate files with dedicated names, or tend to put > multiple snippets in one larger file? > > - Do you rely on the names of the scripts? > > - Why do you use a script file and not a class? > > > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" >

Dec. 12, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Roassal HTML exporter

by Thierry Goubier

Hi Alexandre, this is great. There is a bit of javascript magic going in there, isn't it? (<script type="text/javascript" src="RODraggingAndUtil.js"></script>) When adding some specific support such as the OpenStreetMap data, there is a bit of work to do to extend it? Or would it consider it as a bitmap? Thanks, Thierry 2014-12-12 0:20 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: > Hi! > > We have worked very hard on a Roassal exporter for the Web. > > Milton has produced the class RTHTML5Exporter, which may be simply invoked > as: RTHTML5Exporter new export: aRoassalView. > > Check this out: > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31543901/RoassalHTML/index.html > > Try moving the mouse above the circle or dots in the curve. > > The html file you see from your web browser is the result of do-iting the > following expression: > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > | c b c2 | > c := RTComposer new. > > "======" > b := RTGraphBuilder new. > b view: c view. > b edges > connectFrom: #superclass; > useInLayout. > > b edges > if: [ :fromClass :toClass | toClass name beginsWith: 'TR' ]; > connectTo: #dependentClasses; > color: (Color blue alpha: 0.3). > > > b nodes > if: [ :cls | cls name beginsWith: 'RT' ]; > color: Color blue. > b nodes > color: Color red. > b layout cluster. > > b global > normalizeSize: #numberOfMethods min: 5 max: 40 using: #sqrt; > alphaColor: 0.4. > > b addAll: TRShape withAllSubclasses, RTShape withAllSubclasses. > > b build. > c group. > > "======" > c2 := RTCharterBuilder new. > c2 view: c view. > > c2 interaction popup. > c2 extent: 300 @ 200. > c2 points: (RTShape withAllSubclasses sortedAs: #numberOfMethods). > c2 connectDotColor: Color blue. > > c2 points: (TRShape withAllSubclasses sortedAs: #numberOfMethods). > c2 stackX. > c2 allY: #numberOfMethods. > c2 connectDotColor: Color red. > > c2 axisX. > c2 axisY. > c2 build. > c group. > "======" > > c layout: RTVerticalLineLayout new. > c propagateHighlightToAll. > "======" > > legend := RTLegendBuilder new. > legend view: c view. > legend addText: 'This is a demonsration of a combination of builders'. > legend addText: 'The above visualization shows the dependencies between > Roassal and Trachel shapes.'. > legend addText: 'Curves indicate the distribution of the number of > methods'. > legend build. > "======" > > RTHTML5Exporter new export: c view. > c view > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > >

Dec. 12, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Roassal HTML exporter

by Pierre CHANSON

After some explanations and examples with Hamilton, I can certify this exporter is awesome ! Yes we'll take a look at the palette today Pierre 2014-12-12 9:58 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: > > I will try to integrate that into my software. > > > Let us know how it goes! > > A question: the color palettes are quite faded in Roassal examples (e.g. > when I use the UML builder, some are light on light and hard to read). > > How hard is it to have a palette like this one for example: > http://patterntap.com/pattern/color-palette-flat-ui-colors > > > It should be difficult at all. We will work on this. > > Congrats for the great job! > > > Thanks :-) > Being able to comfortably export to HTML is probably the greatest > challenge Roassal will have to face. > Your feedback is highly important for us. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 12:20 AM, Alexandre Bergel < > alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >> >> Hi! >> >> We have worked very hard on a Roassal exporter for the Web. >> >> Milton has produced the class RTHTML5Exporter, which may be simply >> invoked as: RTHTML5Exporter new export: aRoassalView. >> >> Check this out: >> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31543901/RoassalHTML/index.html >> >> Try moving the mouse above the circle or dots in the curve. >> >> The html file you see from your web browser is the result of do-iting the >> following expression: >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> | c b c2 | >> c := RTComposer new. >> >> "======" >> b := RTGraphBuilder new. >> b view: c view. >> b edges >> connectFrom: #superclass; >> useInLayout. >> >> b edges >> if: [ :fromClass :toClass | toClass name beginsWith: 'TR' ]; >> connectTo: #dependentClasses; >> color: (Color blue alpha: 0.3). >> >> >> b nodes >> if: [ :cls | cls name beginsWith: 'RT' ]; >> color: Color blue. >> b nodes >> color: Color red. >> b layout cluster. >> >> b global >> normalizeSize: #numberOfMethods min: 5 max: 40 using: #sqrt; >> alphaColor: 0.4. >> >> b addAll: TRShape withAllSubclasses, RTShape withAllSubclasses. >> >> b build. >> c group. >> >> "======" >> c2 := RTCharterBuilder new. >> c2 view: c view. >> >> c2 interaction popup. >> c2 extent: 300 @ 200. >> c2 points: (RTShape withAllSubclasses sortedAs: #numberOfMethods). >> c2 connectDotColor: Color blue. >> >> c2 points: (TRShape withAllSubclasses sortedAs: #numberOfMethods). >> c2 stackX. >> c2 allY: #numberOfMethods. >> c2 connectDotColor: Color red. >> >> c2 axisX. >> c2 axisY. >> c2 build. >> c group. >> "======" >> >> c layout: RTVerticalLineLayout new. >> c propagateHighlightToAll. >> "======" >> >> legend := RTLegendBuilder new. >> legend view: c view. >> legend addText: 'This is a demonsration of a combination of builders'. >> legend addText: 'The above visualization shows the dependencies between >> Roassal and Trachel shapes.'. >> legend addText: 'Curves indicate the distribution of the number of >> methods'. >> legend build. >> "======" >> >> RTHTML5Exporter new export: c view. >> c view >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >

Dec. 12, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] New Pharo user, some questions

by David Boeren

Thanks for spotting that HernÃ¡n, I'm not sure how that managed to pass unnoticed so long :) On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:04 AM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand < hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > 2014-12-10 17:26 GMT-03:00 dboeren <boerend(a)gmail.com>: > >> \u009e > > > You have a typo there. It should be > > \u00e9 > > #copyReplaceAll:with: is working without problems. > > Cheers, > > HernÃ¡n > > > 2014-12-11 10:45 GMT-03:00 David Boeren <boerend(a)gmail.com>: > >> I could, but if I do it before parsing, I only have to do the string >> replacement in one place. If I do it afterward, I have to apply it to >> every field separately which I think makes the code look messier. Anyway, >> I have tried applying it at the individual field level as a test but it >> didn't work there either. My primary concern at this point is just to get >> it working which has nothing to do with JSON at all, this is purely a >> string operation. >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:37 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> > On 11 Dec 2014, at 04:41, David Boeren <boerend(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > That's the next line of code after what I quoted: >>> > >>> > "Parse the JSON data returned by the api" >>> > data := NeoJSONReader fromString: response. >>> > >>> > But, prior to the JSON parsing I was doing a couple of string >>> replacements to patch up the data. The system I'm moving the data into >>> doesn't accept accented characters or bullets, and it wants empty strings >>> instead of nulls. >>> >>> You can do the replacements after parsing too, just manipulating the >>> generated data structures. I would say that is conceptually more correct. >>> >>> > All the JSON stuff works fine. It's just the string operations with >>> copyReplaceAll:with: that aren't working as expected for some reason. >>> > >>> > Or are you saying that the data I get from from asUrl retrieveContents >>> is not a "proper string" and maybe that's why it's not working? >>> > >>> > >>> > On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > > On 10 Dec 2014, at 21:26, dboeren <boerend(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> > > >>> > > "Fetch the raw JSON data from dtdb.co" >>> > > response := 'http://dtdb.co/api/cards/' asUrl >>> retrieveContents asString. >>> > >>> > Why no do >>> > >>> > NeoJSONReader fromString: 'http://dtdb.co/api/cards/' asUrl >>> retrieveContents >>> > >>> > ? >>> > >>> > You'll get the data back, nicely parsed and converted to proper Pharo >>> strings. >>> > >>> > Sven >>> > >>> >>> >>> >> >

Dec. 12, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] how do you use scripts?

by Alexandre Bergel

> I agree, I am not sure what you mean by a script here - can you elaborate? As I know Doru, he probably deliberately left out the meaning of script in his email. So, this is up to us to tell what we mean by scripting. We all have a vague notion of what a âscriptâ is. I guess Doru want to capture this. Cheers, Alexandre > > Personally, I think the environment erases a lot of the conceptual difference between a "script" vs. a "program". > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com <mailto:alexandre.bergel@me.com>> wrote: > Hi! > > I am not sure what you mean by âscriptâ. > > > - What kind of actions do you put in scripts? > > I usually write two kind of scripts: > - Roassal visualizations > - Short script, usually a gofer action to load a particular application > > > - Do you rely on script files stored on the disk at all? > > Not at all. No idea how this work. Even if I would, I am not sure I would use it > > > - Where do you store your scripts (in one folder, in many folders)? > > instance method. > > > - Do you version your scripts? > > Using Monticello > > > - Do you store them in separate files with dedicated names, or tend to put multiple snippets in one larger file? > > > > No > > > - Do you rely on the names of the scripts? > > I rely on the method name > > > - Why do you use a script file and not a class? > > I solely use classes. > > Alexandre > > >

Dec. 12, 2014