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Re: [Pharo-users] Question about Morphic in Pharo 4

by stepharo

stepharo wrote >>> Morphic = make and understand any UI >> This is not the case from my experience fighting with morphic. > Agreed, of course ;) We were talking about intention, not implementation. :) but I live in reality not dreams :) > In > what little experience I have, I think that statement would be true full > stop for Self's Morphic. > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Question-about-Morphic-in-Pharo-4-tp4796331p4796783.h… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Dec. 25, 2014

pharo at google code-in

by Martin BÃ¤hr

hi, i have been meaning to learn smalltalk for a while, but i always lacked a good project that i could do with it, until recently. and figuring that teaching is the best way to learn i put up my projects as tasks for google code-in as part of FOSSASIA which is a code-in mentor organization. since code-in targets middle and highschool students, it is quite unlikely that any of them already know smalltalk, or have even heared about it. so in a way this will introduce a few students to smalltalk. i picked pharo because i feel it is going in the right direction trying to improve and also adding things like commandline support. for my tasks i have two major aims: a desktop application that can search a given collection of text and browse the search results. a web application in form if a RESTful user management system that can be used as authentication server for nginx. (nginx makes a request for a given resource and asks if a user is allowed access) it has a dynamic frontend (angular.js or other) without generating html in the server. both projects are split up into several tasks. the desktop application project starts out exploring the basics of how to display text in a frame, covering the full pharo window, and switch between multiple texts: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5902940472606720 once completed a second task will add search capabilities: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5904045940146176 for the web-project first a set of tasks explores various web frameworks by letting the students walk through a tutorial and report on the results: aida: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5858171612561408 http://awblog.blog.com/2014/12/21/hello-world-creating-a-simple-webpage-wit… iliad: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5888240192061440 http://awblog.blog.com/2014/12/22/hello-world-creating-a-simple-webpage-wit… seaside: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5786620192096256 zinc: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5906919541702656 i may add another task for teapot, but i could not find any tutorial for tide the next step is to figure out how to serve static files from the image: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5814729360539648 the reason for that is that, this being a small application, i prefer easy deployability over performance, so i'd rather have all assets within the image. then the REST api: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5880541949722624 personally i am now leaning towards either just zinc or teapot to build the API since i have no need for most of the features of the larger frameworks. initially i was interested in aida because of its support for user management, but i am not sure it is needed. there is of course also a frontend: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5905960371486720 demo: http://idarbek.com/angular and a task to connect the two: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5240815429353472 for good measure, one task is exploring amber: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5825641580593152 what does all of that have to do with you? well, aside from the outreach to introduce pharo to students i'd like to invite your feedback on the tasks, and i am wondering if you have suggestions for other tasks that students could work on. essentially this is an opportunity for pharo (and other smalltalk projects) to participate in google code-in. FOSSASIA is inviting Free Software and Open Source projects to join as mentors. (well, primarily asian projects, but since Free Software and Open Source are global that is hard to pin down. i am in china, so...) but even if you don't join as mentors, if you have tasks for one of your projects that would be suitable, i can put them up, if i can mentor them. (and if they are easy enough for beginners, then i probably can) google code-in ends on the 20th of january, so there is still time for students to pick up a few more smalltalk tasks. greetings, martin. -- eKita - the online platform for your entire academic life -- chief engineer eKita.co pike programmer pike.lysator.liu.se caudium.net societyserver.org BLUG secretary beijinglug.org foresight developer foresightlinux.org realss.com unix sysadmin Martin BÃ¤hr working in china http://societyserver.org/mbaehr/

Dec. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Building agents in Pharo

by Andy Burnett

Kish wrote <<< How about this: http://www.wolframalpha.com/ Not really free form text but quite a bit keyword dependent. Closer to what will make good sense on Pharo / every enterprise app also more contextual based on what the app does. >>> Yup, totally agree. I have been playing with Mathematica a lot recently, and there are a number of things I would love to see in Pharo. The ability to pull in data sets in computable form is really useful. Being able to say something like Population London UK, and have the data returned as a collection is great. In theory we could do the same with e.g. DataWiki. Cheers Andy

Dec. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] moose 5.0

by Tudor Girba

Hi Giorgio, Thanks for the kind words. Cheers, Doru On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 1:20 AM, giorgio ferraris < giorgio.ferraris(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, Guys, > > I'm not (yet) working on Pharo (still VW and some VisualSmalltalk in the > few time left free from my main job), but I follow what you do (not just > you but all the community) and I have to admit you (all) work really hard. > Bergel is doing a fantastic job, and your Moose is very nice, etc. > But, I really liked the presentation of the GT stuff, I can understand the > energy you put behind your work. > > Great work. I'm happy you are on the ST community and working on the > language (ST) i like the most. Thanks! > (Oh, I know you don't like to have Pharo called Smalltalk, but I don't > like religion's wars, so that is yet smalltalk, for me). > > BTW: Happy Holidays to all. > > Giorgio > > On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> > wrote: > >> We are happy to announce Moose 5.0: >> *http://moosetechnology.org/#install* >> >> >> Description >> --- >> >> This is by far the most extensive Moose release to date. Just take a look >> at these two trailers. >> - Spotter: https://vimeo.com/113832673 >> - Inspector: https://vimeo.com/103463364 >> >> The key highlights are: >> - It is based on Pharo 3.0. >> - Roassal2 is a complete reimplementation of the core visual engine of >> Moose. >> - Roassal2 replaced Roassal, EyeSee and Graph-ET, and it features many >> new things including smooth animations, new composeable builders and >> several new layouts. >> - All built-in Moose visualizations use Roassal2. >> - Glamour has been extended with a Pager browser and with Rubric as the >> main text editor. >> - GTSpotter is a new tool that makes it possible to find objects fast. >> - GTInspector saw major usability improvements based on the Pager >> browser, and it now comes with many object specific extensions. >> - GTPlayground provides a new way to handle scripts and when combined >> with GTInspector, it can replace the dedicated easels and editors. >> - Moose Finder has been extended with the ability of handling in place >> visualizations. >> - GTDebugger has been strengthen and was made more robust. >> - PetitParser has been extended with the notion of context which enables >> elegant island parsing. >> >> A list of issues addressed in this release can be found at: >> >> http://code.google.com/p/moose-technology/issues/list?can=1&q=status=Fixed%… >> >> >> Installation >> --- >> >> The Moose Suite 5.0 comes for each platform as a separate bundle: >> - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Mac>http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/ >> moose_suite_5_0-mac.zip >> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_5_0-mac.zip> >> * >> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_4_8-mac.zip*> >> - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Windows>http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/ >> moose_suite_5_0-win.zip >> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_5_0-win.zip> >> * >> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_4_8-win.zip*> >> - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Linux>http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/ >> moose_suite_5_0-linux.zip >> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_5_0-linux.zip> >> * >> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_4_8-linux.zi…> >> >> The Moose Suite 5.0 can also be loaded in a Pharo 3.0 image either from >> the Configuration Browser, or by executing the following script: >> >> ==Gofer new >> == smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'Moose'; >> == configuration; >> == loadStable >> >> >> Happy holidays! >> The Moose team >> > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Dec. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] moose 5.0

by Tudor Girba

Thanks. Doru On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Pierre CHANSON <chans.pierre(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Epic just like the trailers ! > > congrats, > > Pierre > > 2014-12-24 6:30 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu>: > > Super ! >> >> Thanks a lot. >> >> > On 24 Dec 2014, at 00:09, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >> > >> > We are happy to announce Moose 5.0: >> > *http://moosetechnology.org/#install* >> > >> > >> > Description >> > --- >> > >> > This is by far the most extensive Moose release to date. Just take a >> look at these two trailers. >> > - Spotter: https://vimeo.com/113832673 >> > - Inspector: https://vimeo.com/103463364 >> > >> > The key highlights are: >> > - It is based on Pharo 3.0. >> > - Roassal2 is a complete reimplementation of the core visual engine of >> Moose. >> > - Roassal2 replaced Roassal, EyeSee and Graph-ET, and it features many >> new things including smooth animations, new composeable builders and >> several new layouts. >> > - All built-in Moose visualizations use Roassal2. >> > - Glamour has been extended with a Pager browser and with Rubric as the >> main text editor. >> > - GTSpotter is a new tool that makes it possible to find objects fast. >> > - GTInspector saw major usability improvements based on the Pager >> browser, and it now comes with many object specific extensions. >> > - GTPlayground provides a new way to handle scripts and when combined >> with GTInspector, it can replace the dedicated easels and editors. >> > - Moose Finder has been extended with the ability of handling in place >> visualizations. >> > - GTDebugger has been strengthen and was made more robust. >> > - PetitParser has been extended with the notion of context which >> enables elegant island parsing. >> > >> > A list of issues addressed in this release can be found at: >> > >> http://code.google.com/p/moose-technology/issues/list?can=1&q=status=Fixed%… >> > >> > >> > Installation >> > --- >> > >> > The Moose Suite 5.0 comes for each platform as a separate bundle: >> > - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Mac> >> http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/moose_suite_5_0-mac.zip* >> > - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Windows> >> http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/moose_suite_5_0-win.zip* >> > - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Linux> >> http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/moose_suite_5_0-linux.zip* >> > >> > The Moose Suite 5.0 can also be loaded in a Pharo 3.0 image either from >> the Configuration Browser, or by executing the following script: >> > >> > ==Gofer new >> > == smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'Moose'; >> > == configuration; >> > == loadStable >> > >> > >> > Happy holidays! >> > The Moose team >> >> >> > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Dec. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] moose 5.0

by Pierre CHANSON

Epic just like the trailers ! congrats, Pierre 2014-12-24 6:30 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu>: > Super ! > > Thanks a lot. > > > On 24 Dec 2014, at 00:09, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > > > We are happy to announce Moose 5.0: > > *http://moosetechnology.org/#install* > > > > > > Description > > --- > > > > This is by far the most extensive Moose release to date. Just take a > look at these two trailers. > > - Spotter: https://vimeo.com/113832673 > > - Inspector: https://vimeo.com/103463364 > > > > The key highlights are: > > - It is based on Pharo 3.0. > > - Roassal2 is a complete reimplementation of the core visual engine of > Moose. > > - Roassal2 replaced Roassal, EyeSee and Graph-ET, and it features many > new things including smooth animations, new composeable builders and > several new layouts. > > - All built-in Moose visualizations use Roassal2. > > - Glamour has been extended with a Pager browser and with Rubric as the > main text editor. > > - GTSpotter is a new tool that makes it possible to find objects fast. > > - GTInspector saw major usability improvements based on the Pager > browser, and it now comes with many object specific extensions. > > - GTPlayground provides a new way to handle scripts and when combined > with GTInspector, it can replace the dedicated easels and editors. > > - Moose Finder has been extended with the ability of handling in place > visualizations. > > - GTDebugger has been strengthen and was made more robust. > > - PetitParser has been extended with the notion of context which enables > elegant island parsing. > > > > A list of issues addressed in this release can be found at: > > > http://code.google.com/p/moose-technology/issues/list?can=1&q=status=Fixed%… > > > > > > Installation > > --- > > > > The Moose Suite 5.0 comes for each platform as a separate bundle: > > - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Mac> > http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/moose_suite_5_0-mac.zip* > > - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Windows> > http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/moose_suite_5_0-win.zip* > > - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Linux> > http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/moose_suite_5_0-linux.zip* > > > > The Moose Suite 5.0 can also be loaded in a Pharo 3.0 image either from > the Configuration Browser, or by executing the following script: > > > > ==Gofer new > > == smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'Moose'; > > == configuration; > > == loadStable > > > > > > Happy holidays! > > The Moose team > > >

Dec. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] moose 5.0

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Super ! Thanks a lot. > On 24 Dec 2014, at 00:09, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > We are happy to announce Moose 5.0: > *http://moosetechnology.org/#install* > > > Description > --- > > This is by far the most extensive Moose release to date. Just take a look at these two trailers. > - Spotter: https://vimeo.com/113832673 > - Inspector: https://vimeo.com/103463364 > > The key highlights are: > - It is based on Pharo 3.0. > - Roassal2 is a complete reimplementation of the core visual engine of Moose. > - Roassal2 replaced Roassal, EyeSee and Graph-ET, and it features many new things including smooth animations, new composeable builders and several new layouts. > - All built-in Moose visualizations use Roassal2. > - Glamour has been extended with a Pager browser and with Rubric as the main text editor. > - GTSpotter is a new tool that makes it possible to find objects fast. > - GTInspector saw major usability improvements based on the Pager browser, and it now comes with many object specific extensions. > - GTPlayground provides a new way to handle scripts and when combined with GTInspector, it can replace the dedicated easels and editors. > - Moose Finder has been extended with the ability of handling in place visualizations. > - GTDebugger has been strengthen and was made more robust. > - PetitParser has been extended with the notion of context which enables elegant island parsing. > > A list of issues addressed in this release can be found at: > http://code.google.com/p/moose-technology/issues/list?can=1&q=status=Fixed%… > > > Installation > --- > > The Moose Suite 5.0 comes for each platform as a separate bundle: > - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Mac>http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/moose_suite_5_0-mac.zip* > - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Windows>http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/moose_suite_5_0-win.zip* > - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Linux>http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/moose_suite_5_0-linux.zip* > > The Moose Suite 5.0 can also be loaded in a Pharo 3.0 image either from the Configuration Browser, or by executing the following script: > > ==Gofer new > == smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'Moose'; > == configuration; > == loadStable > > > Happy holidays! > The Moose team

Dec. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Building agents in Pharo

by S Krish

How about this: http://www.wolframalpha.com/ Not really free form text but quite a bit keyword dependent. Closer to what will make good sense on Pharo / every enterprise app also more contextual based on what the app does. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:17 PM, Andy Burnett < andy.burnett(a)knowinnovation.com> wrote: > Doru wrote > <<< > Hi Andy, > > You can also just hook into GTSpotter. It already provides the > infrastructure for handling parallel search and lets you focus only on > specifying the search logic. > > Cheers, > Doru > > >>> > > Brilliant! I am very impressed with GTSpotter. In fact, I am impressed > with the whole GT suite. I think I will build a first prototype with > Glamour and GTSpotter. > > By the way, what really motivated me to do this experiment is the tools - > from the 90's - that were presented in this "Story of Siri" video. If you > have the time, it is well worth watching. Being able to build this sort of > capability into an environment like Pharo would be amazing > > https://wit.ai/blog/2014/12/18/adam-keynote > > Cheers > Andy >

Dec. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] SODD

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

+1. In fact, when I don't get proper/quick feedback here (which is almost never) I got to SO. When feedback comes I try to update my answers on SO. At least having a conversation between SO and the list would be useful. Cheers, Offray El 12/12/14 a las 05:34, Yuriy Tymchuk escribiÃ³: > Hi, so this message is about SODD (Stack Overflow Driven Development) and > Pharo/Smalltalk. > > If you look at the last questions of this guy: > http://stackoverflow.com/users/1906070/shiran?tab=questions you can see that > they are about smalltalk/squeak and asked in last 2 days :). > > In fact I think that we should support asking questions on SO, as a lot of > people are anxious to register and talk to others on mailing list, and prefer to > search for solutions on SO. If weâll build reasonable amount of Q/A data, it can > be easier for other people to start with Pharo. > > Cheers! > Uko >

Dec. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Extending GTSpotter

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Hi, Sorry I don't want to "kidnap" the thread, but just inspecting "KMRepository default" and selecting an empty row brings and error. In an other thread today I talked about this error still being present, so is not just about my project, but a way to select empty places on GT objects (trees, tables, etc) and when there is noting there, raising no error and keeping the state of the visualization (in the table resulting from inspecting KMRepository default closing the error brings you back to the table, with my outliner, the tree gets empty). Just trying to make the connection... surely I'm loosing something. Cheers, Offray El 13/12/14 a las 04:23, Edward Povazan escribiÃ³: > Doruâs blog has some neat things. One led me to the following: > Inspect: > KMRepository default. > > With GTools installed, you can see all the shortcuts nicely formatted. I finally found a âscope selectionâ (Cmd+Sh+P) which makes me a very happy user (itâs my primary selection method in IntelliJ/AppCode). > > -Ed > > On Dec 11, 2014, at 8:59 AM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > >> >> A big +1 on Damienâs comment. Discoverability of useful things is too low. For example, I did not know about Shift-enter for searching until somebody showed it to me inadvertently when he was demoing something else :-/ >> >> That being said, I donât have a good solution to the problem either :-( Maybe have the standard image have a second workspace open that lists useful tools and their shortcuts? Plus put new tools and their shortcuts prominent in the release notes for each new release? (cause us old timers donât look at those workspaces anymore ;-) ). >> >>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 13:25, Damien Pollet <damien.pollet+pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Cmd+Enter: âPackage' >>> >>> Doru, your blog post does not mention this piece of information: how >>> to invoke GTSpotter >>> It does not seem to be mentioned in your announcement email either; I >>> found it here after going through threads talking about GTSpotter. >>> >>> Nobody else asked for it, so I'm guessing it was well-known before and >>> I'm the only one who failed to get addicted to whatever the shortcut >>> was doing before? How do we make discoverable affordances for such >>> behaviors in the image? >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >> >> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >> PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >> >> > > >

Dec. 24, 2014