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Re: [Pharo-users] Could we keep Pharo-dev for Pharo-dev?

by kilon alios

does that mean that announcing new pharo tools that are included in the standard pharo distribution should go to pharo-users ? On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:24 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > Hi guys > > I will start to be picky about the mails to which I reply or even read. > We should be more disciplined. Pharo-dev should be about Pharo-dev this is > important > for our concentration. > I really like the other discussions but we should have them in Pharo-users. > I think that it makes sense. > > Stef > >

Jan. 15, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Could we keep Pharo-dev for Pharo-dev?

by Serge Stinckwich

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > >> On 15 Jan 2015, at 08:24, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >> >> Hi guys >> >> I will start to be picky about the mails to which I reply or even read. >> We should be more disciplined. Pharo-dev should be about Pharo-dev this is important >> for our concentration. >> I really like the other discussions but we should have them in Pharo-users. >> I think that it makes sense. >> >> Stef > > YES ! > > We should also ourselves use the right mailing list when asking our own questions. > > And we should point people using the wrong list to the right one. +1 and point to Pharo StackOverflow questions/answers if necessary. -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/

Jan. 15, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Could we keep Pharo-dev for Pharo-dev?

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 15 Jan 2015, at 08:24, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > Hi guys > > I will start to be picky about the mails to which I reply or even read. > We should be more disciplined. Pharo-dev should be about Pharo-dev this is important > for our concentration. > I really like the other discussions but we should have them in Pharo-users. > I think that it makes sense. > > Stef YES ! We should also ourselves use the right mailing list when asking our own questions. And we should point people using the wrong list to the right one.

Jan. 15, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Could we keep Pharo-dev for Pharo-dev?

by Norbert Hartl

Absolutely! Norbert > Am 15.01.2015 um 08:24 schrieb stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr>: > > Hi guys > > I will start to be picky about the mails to which I reply or even read. > We should be more disciplined. Pharo-dev should be about Pharo-dev this is important > for our concentration. > I really like the other discussions but we should have them in Pharo-users. > I think that it makes sense. > > Stef >

Jan. 15, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Could we keep Pharo-dev for Pharo-dev?

by Serge Stinckwich

+1 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 8:24 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > Hi guys > > I will start to be picky about the mails to which I reply or even read. > We should be more disciplined. Pharo-dev should be about Pharo-dev this is > important > for our concentration. > I really like the other discussions but we should have them in Pharo-users. > I think that it makes sense. > > Stef > -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/

Jan. 15, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Could we keep Pharo-dev for Pharo-dev?

by Tudor Girba

+1 Doru On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 8:24 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > Hi guys > > I will start to be picky about the mails to which I reply or even read. > We should be more disciplined. Pharo-dev should be about Pharo-dev this is > important > for our concentration. > I really like the other discussions but we should have them in Pharo-users. > I think that it makes sense. > > Stef > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Jan. 15, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Making objects persistent

by jtuchel＠objektfabrik.de

Sergio, I'D say you first need to define what you mean by "persistent" If all you need is to have them survive a Garbage Collection, you just need to make sure these objects are referenced by som eother objects. Depending on your use case, this can be Seaside Sessions, Global variables (probably the worst idea), TestCase subclasses or even a TestResource. If you want to persist them for longer, we are talking about storage of objects, which is another beast. What comes to mind are options like Fuel, STON, Json, Voyage/Mongo or Glorp with some Database - the choices are endless. Joachim Am 15.01.15 um 08:32 schrieb phil(a)highoctane.be: > On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 6:06 AM, sergio_101 <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com > <mailto:sergio.rrd@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I am building a seaside application, and am in the process of > building my models and unit tests. > > I have a few objects that build up my data by creating objects. > > when i run the data creation methods, everything is fine. > immediately afterward, since these objects to belong to anything, > they are cleaned up by garbage collection. > > is there a way to create these objects so that they persist? > > > > They should belong to your session if you want them to live for the > session. > > Otherwise, I guess you can put them in a global var to make it > available everywhere, or in > > GRObject>>|application|, |session|, or requestContext depending on how > long you want them to live. > > if this is possible, how would you go about deleting such a > tenacious object? > > > Session expiry for session vars. The other ones, standard Smalltalk > way, replacing the reference with something else innocuous if you > can't get rid of them the normal gc way. > > Like, x become: String new. (and not x become: nil, which would make > nil become x...) > > > thanks! > > > > > | > | > | > | > > > > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1

Jan. 15, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Making objects persistent

by phil＠highoctane.be

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 6:06 AM, sergio_101 <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I am building a seaside application, and am in the process of building my > models and unit tests. > > I have a few objects that build up my data by creating objects. > > when i run the data creation methods, everything is fine. immediately > afterward, since these objects to belong to anything, they are cleaned up > by garbage collection. > > > is there a way to create these objects so that they persist? > They should belong to your session if you want them to live for the session. Otherwise, I guess you can put them in a global var to make it available everywhere, or in GRObject>>application, session, or requestContext depending on how long you want them to live. > if this is possible, how would you go about deleting such a tenacious > object? > Session expiry for session vars. The other ones, standard Smalltalk way, replacing the reference with something else innocuous if you can't get rid of them the normal gc way. Like, x become: String new. (and not x become: nil, which would make nil become x...) > > thanks! >

Jan. 15, 2015

Could we keep Pharo-dev for Pharo-dev?

by stepharo

Hi guys I will start to be picky about the mails to which I reply or even read. We should be more disciplined. Pharo-dev should be about Pharo-dev this is important for our concentration. I really like the other discussions but we should have them in Pharo-users. I think that it makes sense. Stef

Jan. 15, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] How to keep the system updated?

by stepharo

Hi laura The update mechanism is sometimes updating part of the systems that are currently used and hence it is difficult to control what is happening. What I suggest is to download new version using the PharoLauncher or scripts Stef Le 15/1/15 05:30, Laura Risani a Ã©crit : > How do i keep the system updated? Should i just wait to the next > version release or should i do something in the the midtime? > > I was feeling curious about World Menu> System> Software update , i > tried it (having saved the image) and after downloading some packages > lots of predebug windows showed up and the theme i use distorted.

Jan. 15, 2015